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Guide ๐Ÿ“– Forward growth guide [High effort] ๐Ÿ’ฏ (1 Viewer)

Guide ๐Ÿ“– Forward growth guide [High effort] ๐Ÿ’ฏ

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Bro, if you're a downward grown, recessed, long face or birdcel with weak projection, flat midface, no jawline and shit lower third โ€” this is the post that can actually ascend you. CCW Bimax + targeted implants is the nuclear option for hardmaxxing.

CCW Rotation Bimax โ€“ The King of Forward Growth

What it actually is:

Double jaw surgery = LeFort I (maxilla) + BSSO (mandible). CCW (Counterclockwise rotation) means the entire maxilla - mandibular complex is rotated up and forward instead of just straight forward or downward.

  • Posterior maxilla gets downgrafted (or anterior impacted).
  • Chin (pogonion) shoots up + forward dramatically.
  • Mandible autorotates CCW, shortening vertical excess, squaring the gonial angle, and giving insane projection without making your face longer. View attachment 43408

Aesthetic advantages



  • Side profile: Massive chin/jaw projection, better lip support, fixed recessed maxilla, stronger ramus. Many guys go from a recessed cuck to forward grown htb fucker.
  • Frontal changes: Lower third shortens (very fucking good if you have long face), gonial angles drop and look wider/squarer, midface projection pops zygos naturally.
  • Airway bonus: Opens breathing like crazy (a big bonus if you favor good sleep). Forum consensus + surgeon data: CCW is what turns โ€yo cuckโ€ into "yo chadโ€. Linear advancement alone often fails to deliver enough chin projection because of bite limits. View attachment 43412View attachment 43413

Limitations


  • If your occlusal plane is already flat/neutral โ†’ over-rotation looks uncanny (inverted smile, weird tilt).
  • Long midface + no anterior impaction = even longer lower third (common fail).
  • Frontal harmony bad (narrow jaws, bad eye area, shit skin) โ†’ side profile pops but you still look off from front.
  • Relapse risk if not enough fixation or bad surgeon (some guys report 3-6mm loss).



Implants โ€“ The Precision Tools (Infraorbital rims - Zygomatics + Combined Jaw)



When bimax alone isn't enough, these are the add-ons that finish the job.​


Implant TypeWhat It DoesBest ForCan Save?Can't Save?
Infraorbital RimBuilds under-eye support, fixes negative vector, reduces tear troughsRecessed midface + hollow eyesYes โ€” huge eye support & midface popAlone won't fix jaw or chin
Zygomatic / MalarHigh cheekbones, zygomatic arch projectionFlat midface, no zygosYes - creates good eyes contrastWon't help lower third
Infra-Zygo Combo (custom infraorbital-malar)One-piece midface rim + cheekbone augmentationFull midface deficiencyGod-tier for recessed upper faceNeeds jaw work to balance
Custom Jawline / Angle + ChinWraps entire mandible โ€” angles, body, chinWeak gonions, no definitionTurns soft jaw into square PSL mogger jaw.Looks uncanny if overdone or mismatched width
Full Combo (Infra-Zygo + Jawline)Total skeletal masculinizationSevere recession everywhereSaves subhumans when bimax isn't optionBad surgeon = fake/plastic look

Real advantages of implants:



  • Custom (from CT scan) = perfect fit, no guesswork.
  • Can be done stand alone or post bimax for fine tuning.
  • Infra-zygo combo fixes the exact area bimax sometimes leaves hollow (under-eyes n cheeks).
  • Jaw implants add width/angle where CCW alone can't (especially if your gonions are naturally narrow).View attachment 43416


CCW Bimax + Infra-Zygo + Jaw Implants


This is what actually saves the worst cases:

  • Bimax CCW fixes the foundation (projection and rotation).
  • Infra-zygo adds midface support and eye area harmony.
  • Custom jawline locks in the lower third width and definition.
Results?
From recessed birdcel to wide, projected, hunter eyed chad in one or two stages. Many Eppley style custom implant cases + CCW bimax show + 2-3 psl.

When They CAN Save You VS
When They CAN'T.


They CAN save you if:


  • You have decent baseline harmony (good eyes, skin tone, hair, no extreme asymmetry).
  • Main failo is skeletal recession + downward growth.
  • You go to a top-tier surgeon who plans CCW properly (not just "advance everything").
  • You accept 12-18 months swelling and possible revisions.
They CAN'T save you if:

  • Your frontal ratios are fucked (narrow face, bad FWHR, weak eyes) โ€” bimax/implants won't magically widen everything harmoniously.
  • You expect to go from true subhuman to top 1% โ€” bone moves, but soft tissue, skin quality, and overall genetics still matter.
  • Bad planning: too much CCW = short lower third + uncanny tilt; wrong implant size = plastic look.
  • You skip retention or aftercare โ†’ relapse kills the gains.
  • You have massive soft tissue failos (bad lips, sagging skin, zero muscle) โ€” surgery highlights them.
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when you getting botb for the other one?
Might not be getting botb, might be getting botb, idk its a big gamble, next guide will be on inhibmaxxing, as i already know very much about it, though i might not include ssris as i got a lot of controversy last
 

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Might not be getting botb, might be getting botb, idk its a big gamble, next guide will be on inhibmaxxing, as i already know very much about it, though i might not include ssris as i got a lot of controversy last
Looking forward to that one, don't miss a thing though, the board here is quite strict
 

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Alright, then i will include ssriโ€™s, last time i included recreational drugs n beta blockers etc got any more idea what to take up?

i will
SSRIs, Beta Blockers, Recreational Drugs, Nootropics, Anti-Psychotics, could write about environmental factors too thats all that comes to my mind right now.
 

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SSRIs, Beta Blockers, Recreational Drugs, Nootropics, Anti-Psychotics, could write about environmental factors too thats all that comes to my mind right now.
Aight
 

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Mirin
 

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Mirin hard, infra-zygo implants mogs hard high ROI,

Its pretty rare to absolute atrocious Gonions
 

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