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Guide thougths on my antiaging protocol? (5 Viewers)

Guide thougths on my antiaging protocol?

futureslayer51

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Isotretinoin 5 mg
GHK-CU saline reconstituted 1-3mg daily (until desired effect is achieved, the should lower the dosage to maintenance doses) (4-12 weeks on 5 days off)
KPV 500 mcg (cycle 4–12 weeks) 2-4 off
Epitalon 5–10 mg daily (10–20 day cycle and then cycle again)
BPC 157 500 mg daily TB500 500 mg daily (4–6 weeks on, 2–4 off)
Tazarotene 0.1 during weekends
microneedling once every 5 weeks
Dutasteride 1-2 mg
MSM 1000 mg cycle 8–12 weeks and 1-2 off
pantothenic acid 1000mg
Sunscreen PAA++
NAD+ 1000mg
FOXO4-DRI 100–500 mcg daily 1-3x times a year for 30 days
Vitamin C serum at morning
how much does all of this cost monthly
 
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Half of the list is meme
throw out the GHK-CU does nothing

Lower the tazarotene to 0.5, do it consistently since the best results happen that, choosing to it once/twice a week isnt enough signaling for the skin to adapt and strengthen. when it comes to retinoids, consistency beats strength 10 times out of 10

Throw in systemic glutithione as it does what people think GHK should do but better mechanistically, and plus it works synergistically with vitamin C .

Iso trent is the most thrown thing in everyone routine I dont understand, n can actually be worse if your not someone with acne, not becuase of sides but because 5mg isnt enough for permanent sebaceou gland remodeling. at best you might get temporary results with it.

1-2 IU of HGH will be good as well as before bed which can enhance sleep, consistent 8 hour sleep has more anti aging benifits than everything in this list.


BPC, and TB arent doing fuck all for anything, if there is no injury they just float and do nothing. People give them more credit than they deserve, I promise if it where so good, they would be used in hospital's

The only good thing on this list was micro needle and Dutastride which will be doing the heavy lifting paired with sun screen and tazarotene

if you are going to use GHK, jus do topical after micro needle sessions thats it.
 
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He probably meant mcg


Just pin KLOW instead, makes it simpler. However, it seems decent. And for epi, isn't it 20 days x2 a year?
Also, isotretinoin should probably be 10mg, just because that's around the dosage they used in the collagen article.
Waste of time and money
 
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not estradiol cream (although it is good for certain cases)
17a estradiol is a non feminising androgen that increases lifespan (only in males) significantly
its non feminising because its around 100x weaker than the normal estradiol we're used to 17b estradiol
if you're a dude its a compound that has no reason to not be used, also acts as a weak 5ari
Used Estrodial cream before, bloated the hell out of me, and made my nips sensitive. I think this is due to the fact is use tazarotene everynight which makes everything more likely to absorb systemically. But I can use it in the day since it will noticeably bloat the face so I jus threw it out
 
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Clavicular recommended estradiol cream, no?
But yeah i agree, you listed some goodies.
Clav isnt that smart, all his knowledge comes from bodybuilding forumn's, they've been doing this stuff since the early 2000's, half the shit he say's has more nuance n is false mechanistically, but no one calls it out.

He uses scientific buzz words to sound more intelligent so more people agree with what he says
 

Synapzyzz

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Half of the list is meme
throw out the GHK-CU does nothing

Lower the tazarotene to 0.5, do it consistently since the best results happen that, choosing to it once/twice a week isnt enough signaling for the skin to adapt and strengthen. when it comes to retinoids, consistency beats strength 10 times out of 10

Throw in systemic glutithione as it does what people think GHK should do but better mechanistically, and plus it works synergistically with vitamin C .

Iso trent is the most thrown thing in everyone routine I dont understand, n can actually be worse if your not someone with acne, not becuase of sides but because 5mg isnt enough for permanent sebaceou gland remodeling. at best you might get temporary results with it.

1-2 IU of HGH will be good as well as before bed which can enhance sleep, consistent 8 hour sleep has more anti aging benifits than everything in this list.


BPC, and TB arent doing fuck all for anything, if there is no injury they just float and do nothing. People give them more credit than they deserve, I promise if it where so good, they would be used in hospital's

The only good thing on this list was micro needle and Dutastride which will be doing the heavy lifting paired with sun screen and tazarotene

if you are going to use GHK, jus do topical after micro needle sessions thats it.
its a experiment I'm running, i did kinda knew that tb 500 and bpc where probably not gonna do shit, but still wanted to give them a try, my logic and reasoning to why i suspected they were probably not gonna fucking work was that almost zero viable evidence for tb and bpc besides "anecdotal evidence " but still decided to "fuck around and find out" but there's also a stupid saying that goes "if it doesn't have any side effects it probably doesn't work" which kinda makes sense right?, been on this stack for a while and guess what? bpc and tb did fucking nothing for me, hgh is something i did not think off rigth away, but makes total sense, i think calling ghk useless is kinda underating it a lot, it does stuff, but it aint no fucking miracle either yk?, been doing it and i acutally got some good results compared to before i started blasting ghk-cu, it is kinda like a support peptide, wont do the heavy lifting at all, but its complimentary, isotret is not permanent but the temporary effect is worthy in my opinion, cycling it can be very beneficial for cellular turnover, i feel like kpv and epitalon also did absolutely nothing for me, hard to tell, i have to get lab results, but after further reviewing i think im gonna take your advice of moderate doses of hgh, microneedling, gluthatione, ghk-cu as suppourt, tazarotene 0.5, and dut with a dermastamp, thanks for the hgh advice, and have you experimented with systemic glutathione? i heard of it but never seen anyone experiment with this, anyways, thank you for the advice, very high iq.
 

Synapzyzz

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Clav isnt that smart, all his knowledge comes from bodybuilding forumn's, they've been doing this stuff since the early 2000's, half the shit he say's has more nuance n is false mechanistically, but no one calls it out.

He uses scientific buzz words to sound more intelligent so more people agree with what he says
what are your thougths on MSM and Phanto though? would u think they are worth cycling with gluthathione?
 

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Clav isnt that smart, all his knowledge comes from bodybuilding forumn's, they've been doing this stuff since the early 2000's, half the shit he say's has more nuance n is false mechanistically, but no one calls it out.

He uses scientific buzz words to sound more intelligent so more people agree with what he says
bodybuilding forums are where this entire community originated tbf
Used Estrodial cream before, bloated the hell out of me, and made my nips sensitive. I think this is due to the fact is use tazarotene everynight which makes everything more likely to absorb systemically. But I can use it in the day since it will noticeably bloat the face so I jus threw it out
idk if you dnrd my post or if you're just adding your experience, but i didnt recommend estradiol cream. if you really wanna use estrogen atleast use estriol for hairloss or skin.
i recommended 17a estradiol, not the 17b you may be used to. 17a estradiol is 100x weaker than 17b estradiol and increases lifespan in men while not being feminising at the dosages used
 

Circadex

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Clav isnt that smart, all his knowledge comes from bodybuilding forumn's, they've been doing this stuff since the early 2000's, half the shit he say's has more nuance n is false mechanistically, but no one calls it out.

He uses scientific buzz words to sound more intelligent so more people agree with what he says
I never said he was. I haven't forgotten he was a perma-bloated MTN up until mid-2025 lol.

Waste of time and money
No it's not. KLOW is undeniably a good addition to any health & Longevity stack, though it can be pretty expensive.
 

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