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The Guide to Facial Ascension: What Actually Works, What Doesn't, and The Risks (with evidence) (1 Viewer)

The Guide to Facial Ascension: What Actually Works, What Doesn't, and The Risks (with evidence)

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If your goal is to improve facial aesthetics as much as possible including extreme methods, the biggest mistake is treating every intervention as equivalent. Facial appearance comes from several interacting systems, skeletal structure, soft-tissue volume, body-fat distribution, skin quality, hair, teeth, eyes, and overall how good they work tg. Some changes are relatively low-risk and reversible; others involve permanent tissue alteration or injections and can produce complications that are far worse than the original aesthetic problem.
​

1. Start with the basics​

Before considering procedures or drugs, optimize the variables that have the largest benefit-to-risk ratio:

Body composition: Reducing excess facial fat can make the jawline and cheekbones more visible u cant be fat and say u dont have a jawline or cheek hollows most of that comes at 10 % bf, but aggressive dieting can also make the face look gaunt and unhealthy. If someone is already very lean, further weight loss may make facial aesthetics worse rather than better.
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Sleep: Poor sleep can worsen facial puffiness, dark circles, skin appearance, and overall face.

Skin: Consistent sunscreen, cleansing, moisturization, and evidence-based acne/pigmentation treatments generally provide a much better result than directly hopping on something.

Hair: Hairstyle, facial hair, eyebrows, and haircut can change how u look like even if ur chopped
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.

Dental health: Teeth, bite, and orthodontic alignment can affect facial appearance and should be assessed professionally rather than attempting mechanical DIY modifications and they r mostly cope for eg thumbpulling (i hate that faggot patel).

Photography: Camera distance, lighting, head position, and expression can dramatically change perceived facial proportions. most niggas on forums post pics of their face clicked zoomed in their face even if they mtn irl theyll look like a sub5.
​

2. Retinoids and skincare​

Topical retinoids have substantially more evidence than most "looksmax" skincare hacks. Retinoids can improve acne, texture, pigmentation, and some signs of photoaging through effects on epidermal turnover and dermal remodeling.

They will def not grow bones and will not fundamentally change jaw projection, cheekbone position, or orbital anatomy.

Other useful categories include sunscreen, vitamin C, niacinamide, azelaic acid, moisturizers, and pigment-targeting treatments depending on the actual problem.

The important principle is treat the skin problem you actually have rather than stacking ten irritating products together.
​

3. Botox / botulinum toxin​

Botulinum toxin is a legitimate medical treatment, but it is frequently misunderstood in looksmax community or any other looks one.

It temporarily reduces muscle activity. Depending on the muscle treated, this can alter the appearance of facial lines or, in selected cases, change the apparent shape of areas such as the masseter.

That does not mean Botox is a general-purpose facial sculpting drug.

effects include bruising, asymmetry, unintended muscle weakness, eyelid or brow drooping, and in rare circumstances more serious systemic effects. The American Academy of Dermatology specifically warns against obtaining botulinum toxin from questionable online sources or having it administered in non-medical settings.
​

4. Dermal fillers​

Fillers can increase volume in areas such as the lips, cheeks, chin, and jawline when appropriately selected and professionally administered.

if you 100% know how to diy I WOULD SUGGEST IT THEN ONLTY FOR DIY USE.

The most concerning complication is accidental entry of filler into a blood vessel. This can interrupt blood flow and potentially cause tissue necrosis, blindness, stroke, or other permanent injury. Infection, nodules, granulomas, allergic reactions, and persistent lumps are additional possibilities.

Permanent fillers can also be particularly problematic because removing them may require additional procedures or surgery and can sometimes be extremely difficult.

For that reason, online filler purchased for self-injection is one of the worst possible risk trades in ur looks
​

5. Needle-free filler pens​

These deserve their own category because they are often marketed online as an easier alternative to conventional injections.

The high pressure used by needle-free devices can cause uncontrolled placement and tissue damage. written complications include scarring, infection, vascular blockage, tissue necrosis, and eye injury.
​

6. Fat-dissolving injections​

This category is particularly important because online forums frequently treat different substances as interchangeable.

They aren't.

fat-dissolving injectables r Aqualyx, Lipodissolve, Lipo Lab, and Kabelline. Reported complications include serious infections, permanent scars, skin deformities, cysts, and painful deep nodules. Self-injection has specifically been associated with these complications.

In the United States, deoxycholic acid (Kybella) is an approved injectable for reducing submental fat in adults. Its approval is specifically for fat beneath the chin not arbitrary facial fat compartment.

The important part is that "fat dissolving" does not mean "harmlessly melts fat." Destroying adipose tissue through an injection also exposes surrounding tissue to the inflammatory process and creates opportunities for infection, asymmetry, scarring, nerve injury, and other complications.
​

7. Buccal fat removal​

Buccal fat removal permanently removes a portion of the fat compartment inside the cheek.

The goal is increased cheek hollowing and greater definition between the cheekbone and lower face.

The problem is that facial aging naturally tends to reduce soft-tissue volume. Removing a significant amount of deep cheek fat when young can therefore produce an overly hollow appearance later.

There is also an important issue: the buccal region contains important nerves and blood vessels. I would never recommend to diy.
​

8. DIY cutting, lip cutting, scarification, and tissue removal​

Cutting facial tissue yourself is not safe at all and can make ur looks worst.

The desired change does not justify the uncontrolled variables: depth, anatomy, bleeding, contamination, infection, wound healing, scar formation, nerve damage, and asymmetry.

A dangerous misconception is that a sufficiently precise cut can reproduce a professional procedure. Professional surgery isn't simply about making the right incision; it involves anatomical knowledge, sterile technique, hemostasis, tissue handling, closure, anesthesia, and management of complications.

A scar is also not guaranteed to heal into the shape you intended.
​

9. Bone smashing​

injuring facial bones is not a reliable method of growing them.

Bone remodeling is a controlled biological process, whereas blunt trauma produces an unpredictable injury response.

It only works by developing a tissue which can be good for now but long term it is not.
​

10. Orthodontics​

If the underlying problem is actually skeletal or dental, orthodontics are different from DIY methods.

Depending on the diagnosis, legitimate treatment can include orthodontic movement, orthognathic surgery, genioplasty, or other procedures.

These approaches start by identifying the problem and then fix them according to the problem
​

11. Rhinoplasty and structural nasal changes​

The nose can make or break the face. thats why small changes can make ur harmony high or low.

But the nose is also structurally and functionally complicated. Cartilage, bone, skin thickness, airway anatomy, and previous trauma all matter.

rhino is the best way.
​

12. Skin procedures​

Professional chemical peels, microneedling, lasers, IPL, and similar procedures can target specific problems such as acne scarring, pigmentation, vascular lesions, or texture.

The mistake is assuming that stronger automatically means better.

Skin can be damaged by excessive thermal energy, excessive depth, infection, or treatment of the wrong skin type. A procedure should be selected according to the problem u have rather than according to how "aggressive" it sounds.
​

13. Supplements and drugs​

communities often present supplements, hormones, peptides, research chemicals, and drugs as if each has a predictable cosmetic effect.

That is usually an enormous oversimplification.

A substance can have a real biological mechanism while still having poor evidence for the specific outcome being claimed. "It changes blah blah pathway" does not automatically mean "it will improve facial features."

Unregulated products introduce another variable: you may not actually be receiving the substance or concentration advertised.
​

14. The risk/reward hierarchy​

A useful way to organize ascension helpers is:

Lowest risk :
sleep, nutrition, appropriate body composition, sunscreen, skincare, grooming, hairstyle, dental hygiene, photography.

Moderate:
skincare acids that do work for ur problem, orthodontics, professional dermatologic procedures, professionally administered cosmetic injectables.

Higher:
surgery, permanent tissue removal, structural skeletal procedures.

DIY risk/reward:
diy fillers, fat-dissolving injections, self buccal fat removal, and injecting unknown products can help u and flame u its a 50 50% of both the things happening.
​

15. The most important law​

The goal shouldn't be "ill be the best looking guy in the world"

The goal should be to reach ur maximum potential.

If an intervention can produce a 10% improvement but has a realistic possibility of producing permanent blindness, tissue death, severe infection, or disfigurement, it is not that good.even if u see someone getting result from it. just like trading some get the lifestyle others lose what they have.

improvements that seem boring and normal such as skincare, gym, orthodontic, hairstyle, facial hair, sleep, sunscreen can give u a much larger change than one high risk method that can 30% give u a good face and 70%destroy what u even have rn.

start from the bottom if u get success from doing normal things dont go deep.
thankyou

​
 
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If your goal is to improve facial aesthetics as much as possible including extreme methods, the biggest mistake is treating every intervention as equivalent. Facial appearance comes from several interacting systems, skeletal structure, soft-tissue volume, body-fat distribution, skin quality, hair, teeth, eyes, and overall how good they work tg. Some changes are relatively low-risk and reversible; others involve permanent tissue alteration or injections and can produce complications that are far worse than the original aesthetic problem.
​

1. Start with the basics​

Before considering procedures or drugs, optimize the variables that have the largest benefit-to-risk ratio:

Body composition: Reducing excess facial fat can make the jawline and cheekbones more visible u cant be fat and say u dont have a jawline or cheek hollows most of that comes at 10 % bf, but aggressive dieting can also make the face look gaunt and unhealthy. If someone is already very lean, further weight loss may make facial aesthetics worse rather than better.
View attachment 65690

Sleep: Poor sleep can worsen facial puffiness, dark circles, skin appearance, and overall face.

Skin: Consistent sunscreen, cleansing, moisturization, and evidence-based acne/pigmentation treatments generally provide a much better result than directly hopping on something.

Hair: Hairstyle, facial hair, eyebrows, and haircut can change how u look like even if ur chopped
View attachment 65691.

Dental health: Teeth, bite, and orthodontic alignment can affect facial appearance and should be assessed professionally rather than attempting mechanical DIY modifications and they r mostly cope for eg thumbpulling (i hate that faggot patel).

Photography: Camera distance, lighting, head position, and expression can dramatically change perceived facial proportions. most niggas on forums post pics of their face clicked zoomed in their face even if they mtn irl theyll look like a sub5.
​

2. Retinoids and skincare​

Topical retinoids have substantially more evidence than most "looksmax" skincare hacks. Retinoids can improve acne, texture, pigmentation, and some signs of photoaging through effects on epidermal turnover and dermal remodeling.

They will def not grow bones and will not fundamentally change jaw projection, cheekbone position, or orbital anatomy.

Other useful categories include sunscreen, vitamin C, niacinamide, azelaic acid, moisturizers, and pigment-targeting treatments depending on the actual problem.

The important principle is treat the skin problem you actually have rather than stacking ten irritating products together.
​

3. Botox / botulinum toxin​

Botulinum toxin is a legitimate medical treatment, but it is frequently misunderstood in looksmax community or any other looks one.

It temporarily reduces muscle activity. Depending on the muscle treated, this can alter the appearance of facial lines or, in selected cases, change the apparent shape of areas such as the masseter.

That does not mean Botox is a general-purpose facial sculpting drug.

effects include bruising, asymmetry, unintended muscle weakness, eyelid or brow drooping, and in rare circumstances more serious systemic effects. The American Academy of Dermatology specifically warns against obtaining botulinum toxin from questionable online sources or having it administered in non-medical settings.
​

4. Dermal fillers​

Fillers can increase volume in areas such as the lips, cheeks, chin, and jawline when appropriately selected and professionally administered.

if you 100% know how to diy I WOULD SUGGEST IT THEN ONLTY FOR DIY USE.

The most concerning complication is accidental entry of filler into a blood vessel. This can interrupt blood flow and potentially cause tissue necrosis, blindness, stroke, or other permanent injury. Infection, nodules, granulomas, allergic reactions, and persistent lumps are additional possibilities.

Permanent fillers can also be particularly problematic because removing them may require additional procedures or surgery and can sometimes be extremely difficult.

For that reason, online filler purchased for self-injection is one of the worst possible risk trades in ur looks
​

5. Needle-free filler pens​

These deserve their own category because they are often marketed online as an easier alternative to conventional injections.

The high pressure used by needle-free devices can cause uncontrolled placement and tissue damage. written complications include scarring, infection, vascular blockage, tissue necrosis, and eye injury.
​

6. Fat-dissolving injections​

This category is particularly important because online forums frequently treat different substances as interchangeable.

They aren't.

fat-dissolving injectables r Aqualyx, Lipodissolve, Lipo Lab, and Kabelline. Reported complications include serious infections, permanent scars, skin deformities, cysts, and painful deep nodules. Self-injection has specifically been associated with these complications.

In the United States, deoxycholic acid (Kybella) is an approved injectable for reducing submental fat in adults. Its approval is specifically for fat beneath the chin not arbitrary facial fat compartment.

The important part is that "fat dissolving" does not mean "harmlessly melts fat." Destroying adipose tissue through an injection also exposes surrounding tissue to the inflammatory process and creates opportunities for infection, asymmetry, scarring, nerve injury, and other complications.
​

7. Buccal fat removal​

Buccal fat removal permanently removes a portion of the fat compartment inside the cheek.

The goal is increased cheek hollowing and greater definition between the cheekbone and lower face.

The problem is that facial aging naturally tends to reduce soft-tissue volume. Removing a significant amount of deep cheek fat when young can therefore produce an overly hollow appearance later.

There is also an important issue: the buccal region contains important nerves and blood vessels. I would never recommend to diy.
​

8. DIY cutting, lip cutting, scarification, and tissue removal​

Cutting facial tissue yourself is not safe at all and can make ur looks worst.

The desired change does not justify the uncontrolled variables: depth, anatomy, bleeding, contamination, infection, wound healing, scar formation, nerve damage, and asymmetry.

A dangerous misconception is that a sufficiently precise cut can reproduce a professional procedure. Professional surgery isn't simply about making the right incision; it involves anatomical knowledge, sterile technique, hemostasis, tissue handling, closure, anesthesia, and management of complications.

A scar is also not guaranteed to heal into the shape you intended.
​

9. Bone smashing​

injuring facial bones is not a reliable method of growing them.

Bone remodeling is a controlled biological process, whereas blunt trauma produces an unpredictable injury response.

It only works by developing a tissue which can be good for now but long term it is not.
​

10. Orthodontics​

If the underlying problem is actually skeletal or dental, orthodontics are different from DIY methods.

Depending on the diagnosis, legitimate treatment can include orthodontic movement, orthognathic surgery, genioplasty, or other procedures.

These approaches start by identifying the problem and then fix them according to the problem
​

11. Rhinoplasty and structural nasal changes​

The nose can make or break the face. thats why small changes can make ur harmony high or low.

But the nose is also structurally and functionally complicated. Cartilage, bone, skin thickness, airway anatomy, and previous trauma all matter.

rhino is the best way.
​

12. Skin procedures​

Professional chemical peels, microneedling, lasers, IPL, and similar procedures can target specific problems such as acne scarring, pigmentation, vascular lesions, or texture.

The mistake is assuming that stronger automatically means better.

Skin can be damaged by excessive thermal energy, excessive depth, infection, or treatment of the wrong skin type. A procedure should be selected according to the problem u have rather than according to how "aggressive" it sounds.
​

13. Supplements and drugs​

communities often present supplements, hormones, peptides, research chemicals, and drugs as if each has a predictable cosmetic effect.

That is usually an enormous oversimplification.

A substance can have a real biological mechanism while still having poor evidence for the specific outcome being claimed. "It changes blah blah pathway" does not automatically mean "it will improve facial features."

Unregulated products introduce another variable: you may not actually be receiving the substance or concentration advertised.
​

14. The risk/reward hierarchy​

A useful way to organize ascension helpers is:

Lowest risk :
sleep, nutrition, appropriate body composition, sunscreen, skincare, grooming, hairstyle, dental hygiene, photography.

Moderate:
skincare acids that do work for ur problem, orthodontics, professional dermatologic procedures, professionally administered cosmetic injectables.

Higher:
surgery, permanent tissue removal, structural skeletal procedures.

DIY risk/reward:
diy fillers, fat-dissolving injections, self buccal fat removal, and injecting unknown products can help u and flame u its a 50 50% of both the things happening.
​

15. The most important law​

The goal shouldn't be "ill be the best looking guy in the world"

The goal should be to reach ur maximum potential.

If an intervention can produce a 10% improvement but has a realistic possibility of producing permanent blindness, tissue death, severe infection, or disfigurement, it is not that good.even if u see someone getting result from it. just like trading some get the lifestyle others lose what they have.

improvements that seem boring and normal such as skincare, gym, orthodontic, hairstyle, facial hair, sleep, sunscreen can give u a much larger change than one high risk method that can 30% give u a good face and 70%destroy what u even have rn.

start from the bottom if u get success from doing normal things dont go deep.
thankyou

​
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If your goal is to improve facial aesthetics as much as possible including extreme methods, the biggest mistake is treating every intervention as equivalent. Facial appearance comes from several interacting systems, skeletal structure, soft-tissue volume, body-fat distribution, skin quality, hair, teeth, eyes, and overall how good they work tg. Some changes are relatively low-risk and reversible; others involve permanent tissue alteration or injections and can produce complications that are far worse than the original aesthetic problem.
​

1. Start with the basics​

Before considering procedures or drugs, optimize the variables that have the largest benefit-to-risk ratio:

Body composition: Reducing excess facial fat can make the jawline and cheekbones more visible u cant be fat and say u dont have a jawline or cheek hollows most of that comes at 10 % bf, but aggressive dieting can also make the face look gaunt and unhealthy. If someone is already very lean, further weight loss may make facial aesthetics worse rather than better.
View attachment 65690

Sleep: Poor sleep can worsen facial puffiness, dark circles, skin appearance, and overall face.

Skin: Consistent sunscreen, cleansing, moisturization, and evidence-based acne/pigmentation treatments generally provide a much better result than directly hopping on something.

Hair: Hairstyle, facial hair, eyebrows, and haircut can change how u look like even if ur chopped
View attachment 65691.

Dental health: Teeth, bite, and orthodontic alignment can affect facial appearance and should be assessed professionally rather than attempting mechanical DIY modifications and they r mostly cope for eg thumbpulling (i hate that faggot patel).

Photography: Camera distance, lighting, head position, and expression can dramatically change perceived facial proportions. most niggas on forums post pics of their face clicked zoomed in their face even if they mtn irl theyll look like a sub5.
​

2. Retinoids and skincare​

Topical retinoids have substantially more evidence than most "looksmax" skincare hacks. Retinoids can improve acne, texture, pigmentation, and some signs of photoaging through effects on epidermal turnover and dermal remodeling.

They will def not grow bones and will not fundamentally change jaw projection, cheekbone position, or orbital anatomy.

Other useful categories include sunscreen, vitamin C, niacinamide, azelaic acid, moisturizers, and pigment-targeting treatments depending on the actual problem.

The important principle is treat the skin problem you actually have rather than stacking ten irritating products together.
​

3. Botox / botulinum toxin​

Botulinum toxin is a legitimate medical treatment, but it is frequently misunderstood in looksmax community or any other looks one.

It temporarily reduces muscle activity. Depending on the muscle treated, this can alter the appearance of facial lines or, in selected cases, change the apparent shape of areas such as the masseter.

That does not mean Botox is a general-purpose facial sculpting drug.

effects include bruising, asymmetry, unintended muscle weakness, eyelid or brow drooping, and in rare circumstances more serious systemic effects. The American Academy of Dermatology specifically warns against obtaining botulinum toxin from questionable online sources or having it administered in non-medical settings.
​

4. Dermal fillers​

Fillers can increase volume in areas such as the lips, cheeks, chin, and jawline when appropriately selected and professionally administered.

if you 100% know how to diy I WOULD SUGGEST IT THEN ONLTY FOR DIY USE.

The most concerning complication is accidental entry of filler into a blood vessel. This can interrupt blood flow and potentially cause tissue necrosis, blindness, stroke, or other permanent injury. Infection, nodules, granulomas, allergic reactions, and persistent lumps are additional possibilities.

Permanent fillers can also be particularly problematic because removing them may require additional procedures or surgery and can sometimes be extremely difficult.

For that reason, online filler purchased for self-injection is one of the worst possible risk trades in ur looks
​

5. Needle-free filler pens​

These deserve their own category because they are often marketed online as an easier alternative to conventional injections.

The high pressure used by needle-free devices can cause uncontrolled placement and tissue damage. written complications include scarring, infection, vascular blockage, tissue necrosis, and eye injury.
​

6. Fat-dissolving injections​

This category is particularly important because online forums frequently treat different substances as interchangeable.

They aren't.

fat-dissolving injectables r Aqualyx, Lipodissolve, Lipo Lab, and Kabelline. Reported complications include serious infections, permanent scars, skin deformities, cysts, and painful deep nodules. Self-injection has specifically been associated with these complications.

In the United States, deoxycholic acid (Kybella) is an approved injectable for reducing submental fat in adults. Its approval is specifically for fat beneath the chin not arbitrary facial fat compartment.

The important part is that "fat dissolving" does not mean "harmlessly melts fat." Destroying adipose tissue through an injection also exposes surrounding tissue to the inflammatory process and creates opportunities for infection, asymmetry, scarring, nerve injury, and other complications.
​

7. Buccal fat removal​

Buccal fat removal permanently removes a portion of the fat compartment inside the cheek.

The goal is increased cheek hollowing and greater definition between the cheekbone and lower face.

The problem is that facial aging naturally tends to reduce soft-tissue volume. Removing a significant amount of deep cheek fat when young can therefore produce an overly hollow appearance later.

There is also an important issue: the buccal region contains important nerves and blood vessels. I would never recommend to diy.
​

8. DIY cutting, lip cutting, scarification, and tissue removal​

Cutting facial tissue yourself is not safe at all and can make ur looks worst.

The desired change does not justify the uncontrolled variables: depth, anatomy, bleeding, contamination, infection, wound healing, scar formation, nerve damage, and asymmetry.

A dangerous misconception is that a sufficiently precise cut can reproduce a professional procedure. Professional surgery isn't simply about making the right incision; it involves anatomical knowledge, sterile technique, hemostasis, tissue handling, closure, anesthesia, and management of complications.

A scar is also not guaranteed to heal into the shape you intended.
​

9. Bone smashing​

injuring facial bones is not a reliable method of growing them.

Bone remodeling is a controlled biological process, whereas blunt trauma produces an unpredictable injury response.

It only works by developing a tissue which can be good for now but long term it is not.
​

10. Orthodontics​

If the underlying problem is actually skeletal or dental, orthodontics are different from DIY methods.

Depending on the diagnosis, legitimate treatment can include orthodontic movement, orthognathic surgery, genioplasty, or other procedures.

These approaches start by identifying the problem and then fix them according to the problem
​

11. Rhinoplasty and structural nasal changes​

The nose can make or break the face. thats why small changes can make ur harmony high or low.

But the nose is also structurally and functionally complicated. Cartilage, bone, skin thickness, airway anatomy, and previous trauma all matter.

rhino is the best way.
​

12. Skin procedures​

Professional chemical peels, microneedling, lasers, IPL, and similar procedures can target specific problems such as acne scarring, pigmentation, vascular lesions, or texture.

The mistake is assuming that stronger automatically means better.

Skin can be damaged by excessive thermal energy, excessive depth, infection, or treatment of the wrong skin type. A procedure should be selected according to the problem u have rather than according to how "aggressive" it sounds.
​

13. Supplements and drugs​

communities often present supplements, hormones, peptides, research chemicals, and drugs as if each has a predictable cosmetic effect.

That is usually an enormous oversimplification.

A substance can have a real biological mechanism while still having poor evidence for the specific outcome being claimed. "It changes blah blah pathway" does not automatically mean "it will improve facial features."

Unregulated products introduce another variable: you may not actually be receiving the substance or concentration advertised.
​

14. The risk/reward hierarchy​

A useful way to organize ascension helpers is:

Lowest risk :
sleep, nutrition, appropriate body composition, sunscreen, skincare, grooming, hairstyle, dental hygiene, photography.

Moderate:
skincare acids that do work for ur problem, orthodontics, professional dermatologic procedures, professionally administered cosmetic injectables.

Higher:
surgery, permanent tissue removal, structural skeletal procedures.

DIY risk/reward:
diy fillers, fat-dissolving injections, self buccal fat removal, and injecting unknown products can help u and flame u its a 50 50% of both the things happening.
​

15. The most important law​

The goal shouldn't be "ill be the best looking guy in the world"

The goal should be to reach ur maximum potential.

If an intervention can produce a 10% improvement but has a realistic possibility of producing permanent blindness, tissue death, severe infection, or disfigurement, it is not that good.even if u see someone getting result from it. just like trading some get the lifestyle others lose what they have.

improvements that seem boring and normal such as skincare, gym, orthodontic, hairstyle, facial hair, sleep, sunscreen can give u a much larger change than one high risk method that can 30% give u a good face and 70%destroy what u even have rn.

start from the bottom if u get success from doing normal things dont go deep.
thankyou

​
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If your goal is to improve facial aesthetics as much as possible including extreme methods, the biggest mistake is treating every intervention as equivalent. Facial appearance comes from several interacting systems, skeletal structure, soft-tissue volume, body-fat distribution, skin quality, hair, teeth, eyes, and overall how good they work tg. Some changes are relatively low-risk and reversible; others involve permanent tissue alteration or injections and can produce complications that are far worse than the original aesthetic problem.
​

1. Start with the basics​

Before considering procedures or drugs, optimize the variables that have the largest benefit-to-risk ratio:

Body composition: Reducing excess facial fat can make the jawline and cheekbones more visible u cant be fat and say u dont have a jawline or cheek hollows most of that comes at 10 % bf, but aggressive dieting can also make the face look gaunt and unhealthy. If someone is already very lean, further weight loss may make facial aesthetics worse rather than better.
View attachment 65690

Sleep: Poor sleep can worsen facial puffiness, dark circles, skin appearance, and overall face.

Skin: Consistent sunscreen, cleansing, moisturization, and evidence-based acne/pigmentation treatments generally provide a much better result than directly hopping on something.

Hair: Hairstyle, facial hair, eyebrows, and haircut can change how u look like even if ur chopped
View attachment 65691.

Dental health: Teeth, bite, and orthodontic alignment can affect facial appearance and should be assessed professionally rather than attempting mechanical DIY modifications and they r mostly cope for eg thumbpulling (i hate that faggot patel).

Photography: Camera distance, lighting, head position, and expression can dramatically change perceived facial proportions. most niggas on forums post pics of their face clicked zoomed in their face even if they mtn irl theyll look like a sub5.
​

2. Retinoids and skincare​

Topical retinoids have substantially more evidence than most "looksmax" skincare hacks. Retinoids can improve acne, texture, pigmentation, and some signs of photoaging through effects on epidermal turnover and dermal remodeling.

They will def not grow bones and will not fundamentally change jaw projection, cheekbone position, or orbital anatomy.

Other useful categories include sunscreen, vitamin C, niacinamide, azelaic acid, moisturizers, and pigment-targeting treatments depending on the actual problem.

The important principle is treat the skin problem you actually have rather than stacking ten irritating products together.
​

3. Botox / botulinum toxin​

Botulinum toxin is a legitimate medical treatment, but it is frequently misunderstood in looksmax community or any other looks one.

It temporarily reduces muscle activity. Depending on the muscle treated, this can alter the appearance of facial lines or, in selected cases, change the apparent shape of areas such as the masseter.

That does not mean Botox is a general-purpose facial sculpting drug.

effects include bruising, asymmetry, unintended muscle weakness, eyelid or brow drooping, and in rare circumstances more serious systemic effects. The American Academy of Dermatology specifically warns against obtaining botulinum toxin from questionable online sources or having it administered in non-medical settings.
​

4. Dermal fillers​

Fillers can increase volume in areas such as the lips, cheeks, chin, and jawline when appropriately selected and professionally administered.

if you 100% know how to diy I WOULD SUGGEST IT THEN ONLTY FOR DIY USE.

The most concerning complication is accidental entry of filler into a blood vessel. This can interrupt blood flow and potentially cause tissue necrosis, blindness, stroke, or other permanent injury. Infection, nodules, granulomas, allergic reactions, and persistent lumps are additional possibilities.

Permanent fillers can also be particularly problematic because removing them may require additional procedures or surgery and can sometimes be extremely difficult.

For that reason, online filler purchased for self-injection is one of the worst possible risk trades in ur looks
​

5. Needle-free filler pens​

These deserve their own category because they are often marketed online as an easier alternative to conventional injections.

The high pressure used by needle-free devices can cause uncontrolled placement and tissue damage. written complications include scarring, infection, vascular blockage, tissue necrosis, and eye injury.
​

6. Fat-dissolving injections​

This category is particularly important because online forums frequently treat different substances as interchangeable.

They aren't.

fat-dissolving injectables r Aqualyx, Lipodissolve, Lipo Lab, and Kabelline. Reported complications include serious infections, permanent scars, skin deformities, cysts, and painful deep nodules. Self-injection has specifically been associated with these complications.

In the United States, deoxycholic acid (Kybella) is an approved injectable for reducing submental fat in adults. Its approval is specifically for fat beneath the chin not arbitrary facial fat compartment.

The important part is that "fat dissolving" does not mean "harmlessly melts fat." Destroying adipose tissue through an injection also exposes surrounding tissue to the inflammatory process and creates opportunities for infection, asymmetry, scarring, nerve injury, and other complications.
​

7. Buccal fat removal​

Buccal fat removal permanently removes a portion of the fat compartment inside the cheek.

The goal is increased cheek hollowing and greater definition between the cheekbone and lower face.

The problem is that facial aging naturally tends to reduce soft-tissue volume. Removing a significant amount of deep cheek fat when young can therefore produce an overly hollow appearance later.

There is also an important issue: the buccal region contains important nerves and blood vessels. I would never recommend to diy.
​

8. DIY cutting, lip cutting, scarification, and tissue removal​

Cutting facial tissue yourself is not safe at all and can make ur looks worst.

The desired change does not justify the uncontrolled variables: depth, anatomy, bleeding, contamination, infection, wound healing, scar formation, nerve damage, and asymmetry.

A dangerous misconception is that a sufficiently precise cut can reproduce a professional procedure. Professional surgery isn't simply about making the right incision; it involves anatomical knowledge, sterile technique, hemostasis, tissue handling, closure, anesthesia, and management of complications.

A scar is also not guaranteed to heal into the shape you intended.
​

9. Bone smashing​

injuring facial bones is not a reliable method of growing them.

Bone remodeling is a controlled biological process, whereas blunt trauma produces an unpredictable injury response.

It only works by developing a tissue which can be good for now but long term it is not.
​

10. Orthodontics​

If the underlying problem is actually skeletal or dental, orthodontics are different from DIY methods.

Depending on the diagnosis, legitimate treatment can include orthodontic movement, orthognathic surgery, genioplasty, or other procedures.

These approaches start by identifying the problem and then fix them according to the problem
​

11. Rhinoplasty and structural nasal changes​

The nose can make or break the face. thats why small changes can make ur harmony high or low.

But the nose is also structurally and functionally complicated. Cartilage, bone, skin thickness, airway anatomy, and previous trauma all matter.

rhino is the best way.
​

12. Skin procedures​

Professional chemical peels, microneedling, lasers, IPL, and similar procedures can target specific problems such as acne scarring, pigmentation, vascular lesions, or texture.

The mistake is assuming that stronger automatically means better.

Skin can be damaged by excessive thermal energy, excessive depth, infection, or treatment of the wrong skin type. A procedure should be selected according to the problem u have rather than according to how "aggressive" it sounds.
​

13. Supplements and drugs​

communities often present supplements, hormones, peptides, research chemicals, and drugs as if each has a predictable cosmetic effect.

That is usually an enormous oversimplification.

A substance can have a real biological mechanism while still having poor evidence for the specific outcome being claimed. "It changes blah blah pathway" does not automatically mean "it will improve facial features."

Unregulated products introduce another variable: you may not actually be receiving the substance or concentration advertised.
​

14. The risk/reward hierarchy​

A useful way to organize ascension helpers is:

Lowest risk :
sleep, nutrition, appropriate body composition, sunscreen, skincare, grooming, hairstyle, dental hygiene, photography.

Moderate:
skincare acids that do work for ur problem, orthodontics, professional dermatologic procedures, professionally administered cosmetic injectables.

Higher:
surgery, permanent tissue removal, structural skeletal procedures.

DIY risk/reward:
diy fillers, fat-dissolving injections, self buccal fat removal, and injecting unknown products can help u and flame u its a 50 50% of both the things happening.
​

15. The most important law​

The goal shouldn't be "ill be the best looking guy in the world"

The goal should be to reach ur maximum potential.

If an intervention can produce a 10% improvement but has a realistic possibility of producing permanent blindness, tissue death, severe infection, or disfigurement, it is not that good.even if u see someone getting result from it. just like trading some get the lifestyle others lose what they have.

improvements that seem boring and normal such as skincare, gym, orthodontic, hairstyle, facial hair, sleep, sunscreen can give u a much larger change than one high risk method that can 30% give u a good face and 70%destroy what u even have rn.

start from the bottom if u get success from doing normal things dont go deep.
thankyou

​
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If your goal is to improve facial aesthetics as much as possible including extreme methods, the biggest mistake is treating every intervention as equivalent. Facial appearance comes from several interacting systems, skeletal structure, soft-tissue volume, body-fat distribution, skin quality, hair, teeth, eyes, and overall how good they work tg. Some changes are relatively low-risk and reversible; others involve permanent tissue alteration or injections and can produce complications that are far worse than the original aesthetic problem.
​

1. Start with the basics​

Before considering procedures or drugs, optimize the variables that have the largest benefit-to-risk ratio:

Body composition: Reducing excess facial fat can make the jawline and cheekbones more visible u cant be fat and say u dont have a jawline or cheek hollows most of that comes at 10 % bf, but aggressive dieting can also make the face look gaunt and unhealthy. If someone is already very lean, further weight loss may make facial aesthetics worse rather than better.
View attachment 65690

Sleep: Poor sleep can worsen facial puffiness, dark circles, skin appearance, and overall face.

Skin: Consistent sunscreen, cleansing, moisturization, and evidence-based acne/pigmentation treatments generally provide a much better result than directly hopping on something.

Hair: Hairstyle, facial hair, eyebrows, and haircut can change how u look like even if ur chopped
View attachment 65691.

Dental health: Teeth, bite, and orthodontic alignment can affect facial appearance and should be assessed professionally rather than attempting mechanical DIY modifications and they r mostly cope for eg thumbpulling (i hate that faggot patel).

Photography: Camera distance, lighting, head position, and expression can dramatically change perceived facial proportions. most niggas on forums post pics of their face clicked zoomed in their face even if they mtn irl theyll look like a sub5.
​

2. Retinoids and skincare​

Topical retinoids have substantially more evidence than most "looksmax" skincare hacks. Retinoids can improve acne, texture, pigmentation, and some signs of photoaging through effects on epidermal turnover and dermal remodeling.

They will def not grow bones and will not fundamentally change jaw projection, cheekbone position, or orbital anatomy.

Other useful categories include sunscreen, vitamin C, niacinamide, azelaic acid, moisturizers, and pigment-targeting treatments depending on the actual problem.

The important principle is treat the skin problem you actually have rather than stacking ten irritating products together.
​

3. Botox / botulinum toxin​

Botulinum toxin is a legitimate medical treatment, but it is frequently misunderstood in looksmax community or any other looks one.

It temporarily reduces muscle activity. Depending on the muscle treated, this can alter the appearance of facial lines or, in selected cases, change the apparent shape of areas such as the masseter.

That does not mean Botox is a general-purpose facial sculpting drug.

effects include bruising, asymmetry, unintended muscle weakness, eyelid or brow drooping, and in rare circumstances more serious systemic effects. The American Academy of Dermatology specifically warns against obtaining botulinum toxin from questionable online sources or having it administered in non-medical settings.
​

4. Dermal fillers​

Fillers can increase volume in areas such as the lips, cheeks, chin, and jawline when appropriately selected and professionally administered.

if you 100% know how to diy I WOULD SUGGEST IT THEN ONLTY FOR DIY USE.

The most concerning complication is accidental entry of filler into a blood vessel. This can interrupt blood flow and potentially cause tissue necrosis, blindness, stroke, or other permanent injury. Infection, nodules, granulomas, allergic reactions, and persistent lumps are additional possibilities.

Permanent fillers can also be particularly problematic because removing them may require additional procedures or surgery and can sometimes be extremely difficult.

For that reason, online filler purchased for self-injection is one of the worst possible risk trades in ur looks
​

5. Needle-free filler pens​

These deserve their own category because they are often marketed online as an easier alternative to conventional injections.

The high pressure used by needle-free devices can cause uncontrolled placement and tissue damage. written complications include scarring, infection, vascular blockage, tissue necrosis, and eye injury.
​

6. Fat-dissolving injections​

This category is particularly important because online forums frequently treat different substances as interchangeable.

They aren't.

fat-dissolving injectables r Aqualyx, Lipodissolve, Lipo Lab, and Kabelline. Reported complications include serious infections, permanent scars, skin deformities, cysts, and painful deep nodules. Self-injection has specifically been associated with these complications.

In the United States, deoxycholic acid (Kybella) is an approved injectable for reducing submental fat in adults. Its approval is specifically for fat beneath the chin not arbitrary facial fat compartment.

The important part is that "fat dissolving" does not mean "harmlessly melts fat." Destroying adipose tissue through an injection also exposes surrounding tissue to the inflammatory process and creates opportunities for infection, asymmetry, scarring, nerve injury, and other complications.
​

7. Buccal fat removal​

Buccal fat removal permanently removes a portion of the fat compartment inside the cheek.

The goal is increased cheek hollowing and greater definition between the cheekbone and lower face.

The problem is that facial aging naturally tends to reduce soft-tissue volume. Removing a significant amount of deep cheek fat when young can therefore produce an overly hollow appearance later.

There is also an important issue: the buccal region contains important nerves and blood vessels. I would never recommend to diy.
​

8. DIY cutting, lip cutting, scarification, and tissue removal​

Cutting facial tissue yourself is not safe at all and can make ur looks worst.

The desired change does not justify the uncontrolled variables: depth, anatomy, bleeding, contamination, infection, wound healing, scar formation, nerve damage, and asymmetry.

A dangerous misconception is that a sufficiently precise cut can reproduce a professional procedure. Professional surgery isn't simply about making the right incision; it involves anatomical knowledge, sterile technique, hemostasis, tissue handling, closure, anesthesia, and management of complications.

A scar is also not guaranteed to heal into the shape you intended.
​

9. Bone smashing​

injuring facial bones is not a reliable method of growing them.

Bone remodeling is a controlled biological process, whereas blunt trauma produces an unpredictable injury response.

It only works by developing a tissue which can be good for now but long term it is not.
​

10. Orthodontics​

If the underlying problem is actually skeletal or dental, orthodontics are different from DIY methods.

Depending on the diagnosis, legitimate treatment can include orthodontic movement, orthognathic surgery, genioplasty, or other procedures.

These approaches start by identifying the problem and then fix them according to the problem
​

11. Rhinoplasty and structural nasal changes​

The nose can make or break the face. thats why small changes can make ur harmony high or low.

But the nose is also structurally and functionally complicated. Cartilage, bone, skin thickness, airway anatomy, and previous trauma all matter.

rhino is the best way.
​

12. Skin procedures​

Professional chemical peels, microneedling, lasers, IPL, and similar procedures can target specific problems such as acne scarring, pigmentation, vascular lesions, or texture.

The mistake is assuming that stronger automatically means better.

Skin can be damaged by excessive thermal energy, excessive depth, infection, or treatment of the wrong skin type. A procedure should be selected according to the problem u have rather than according to how "aggressive" it sounds.
​

13. Supplements and drugs​

communities often present supplements, hormones, peptides, research chemicals, and drugs as if each has a predictable cosmetic effect.

That is usually an enormous oversimplification.

A substance can have a real biological mechanism while still having poor evidence for the specific outcome being claimed. "It changes blah blah pathway" does not automatically mean "it will improve facial features."

Unregulated products introduce another variable: you may not actually be receiving the substance or concentration advertised.
​

14. The risk/reward hierarchy​

A useful way to organize ascension helpers is:

Lowest risk :
sleep, nutrition, appropriate body composition, sunscreen, skincare, grooming, hairstyle, dental hygiene, photography.

Moderate:
skincare acids that do work for ur problem, orthodontics, professional dermatologic procedures, professionally administered cosmetic injectables.

Higher:
surgery, permanent tissue removal, structural skeletal procedures.

DIY risk/reward:
diy fillers, fat-dissolving injections, self buccal fat removal, and injecting unknown products can help u and flame u its a 50 50% of both the things happening.
​

15. The most important law​

The goal shouldn't be "ill be the best looking guy in the world"

The goal should be to reach ur maximum potential.

If an intervention can produce a 10% improvement but has a realistic possibility of producing permanent blindness, tissue death, severe infection, or disfigurement, it is not that good.even if u see someone getting result from it. just like trading some get the lifestyle others lose what they have.

improvements that seem boring and normal such as skincare, gym, orthodontic, hairstyle, facial hair, sleep, sunscreen can give u a much larger change than one high risk method that can 30% give u a good face and 70%destroy what u even have rn.

start from the bottom if u get success from doing normal things dont go deep.
thankyou

​
Very good especially for new users in non knowledgable greyceldom, mirin
 

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If your goal is to improve facial aesthetics as much as possible including extreme methods, the biggest mistake is treating every intervention as equivalent. Facial appearance comes from several interacting systems, skeletal structure, soft-tissue volume, body-fat distribution, skin quality, hair, teeth, eyes, and overall how good they work tg. Some changes are relatively low-risk and reversible; others involve permanent tissue alteration or injections and can produce complications that are far worse than the original aesthetic problem.
​

1. Start with the basics​

Before considering procedures or drugs, optimize the variables that have the largest benefit-to-risk ratio:

Body composition: Reducing excess facial fat can make the jawline and cheekbones more visible u cant be fat and say u dont have a jawline or cheek hollows most of that comes at 10 % bf, but aggressive dieting can also make the face look gaunt and unhealthy. If someone is already very lean, further weight loss may make facial aesthetics worse rather than better.
View attachment 65690

Sleep: Poor sleep can worsen facial puffiness, dark circles, skin appearance, and overall face.

Skin: Consistent sunscreen, cleansing, moisturization, and evidence-based acne/pigmentation treatments generally provide a much better result than directly hopping on something.

Hair: Hairstyle, facial hair, eyebrows, and haircut can change how u look like even if ur chopped
View attachment 65691.

Dental health: Teeth, bite, and orthodontic alignment can affect facial appearance and should be assessed professionally rather than attempting mechanical DIY modifications and they r mostly cope for eg thumbpulling (i hate that faggot patel).

Photography: Camera distance, lighting, head position, and expression can dramatically change perceived facial proportions. most niggas on forums post pics of their face clicked zoomed in their face even if they mtn irl theyll look like a sub5.
​

2. Retinoids and skincare​

Topical retinoids have substantially more evidence than most "looksmax" skincare hacks. Retinoids can improve acne, texture, pigmentation, and some signs of photoaging through effects on epidermal turnover and dermal remodeling.

They will def not grow bones and will not fundamentally change jaw projection, cheekbone position, or orbital anatomy.

Other useful categories include sunscreen, vitamin C, niacinamide, azelaic acid, moisturizers, and pigment-targeting treatments depending on the actual problem.

The important principle is treat the skin problem you actually have rather than stacking ten irritating products together.
​

3. Botox / botulinum toxin​

Botulinum toxin is a legitimate medical treatment, but it is frequently misunderstood in looksmax community or any other looks one.

It temporarily reduces muscle activity. Depending on the muscle treated, this can alter the appearance of facial lines or, in selected cases, change the apparent shape of areas such as the masseter.

That does not mean Botox is a general-purpose facial sculpting drug.

effects include bruising, asymmetry, unintended muscle weakness, eyelid or brow drooping, and in rare circumstances more serious systemic effects. The American Academy of Dermatology specifically warns against obtaining botulinum toxin from questionable online sources or having it administered in non-medical settings.
​

4. Dermal fillers​

Fillers can increase volume in areas such as the lips, cheeks, chin, and jawline when appropriately selected and professionally administered.

if you 100% know how to diy I WOULD SUGGEST IT THEN ONLTY FOR DIY USE.

The most concerning complication is accidental entry of filler into a blood vessel. This can interrupt blood flow and potentially cause tissue necrosis, blindness, stroke, or other permanent injury. Infection, nodules, granulomas, allergic reactions, and persistent lumps are additional possibilities.

Permanent fillers can also be particularly problematic because removing them may require additional procedures or surgery and can sometimes be extremely difficult.

For that reason, online filler purchased for self-injection is one of the worst possible risk trades in ur looks
​

5. Needle-free filler pens​

These deserve their own category because they are often marketed online as an easier alternative to conventional injections.

The high pressure used by needle-free devices can cause uncontrolled placement and tissue damage. written complications include scarring, infection, vascular blockage, tissue necrosis, and eye injury.
​

6. Fat-dissolving injections​

This category is particularly important because online forums frequently treat different substances as interchangeable.

They aren't.

fat-dissolving injectables r Aqualyx, Lipodissolve, Lipo Lab, and Kabelline. Reported complications include serious infections, permanent scars, skin deformities, cysts, and painful deep nodules. Self-injection has specifically been associated with these complications.

In the United States, deoxycholic acid (Kybella) is an approved injectable for reducing submental fat in adults. Its approval is specifically for fat beneath the chin not arbitrary facial fat compartment.

The important part is that "fat dissolving" does not mean "harmlessly melts fat." Destroying adipose tissue through an injection also exposes surrounding tissue to the inflammatory process and creates opportunities for infection, asymmetry, scarring, nerve injury, and other complications.
​

7. Buccal fat removal​

Buccal fat removal permanently removes a portion of the fat compartment inside the cheek.

The goal is increased cheek hollowing and greater definition between the cheekbone and lower face.

The problem is that facial aging naturally tends to reduce soft-tissue volume. Removing a significant amount of deep cheek fat when young can therefore produce an overly hollow appearance later.

There is also an important issue: the buccal region contains important nerves and blood vessels. I would never recommend to diy.
​

8. DIY cutting, lip cutting, scarification, and tissue removal​

Cutting facial tissue yourself is not safe at all and can make ur looks worst.

The desired change does not justify the uncontrolled variables: depth, anatomy, bleeding, contamination, infection, wound healing, scar formation, nerve damage, and asymmetry.

A dangerous misconception is that a sufficiently precise cut can reproduce a professional procedure. Professional surgery isn't simply about making the right incision; it involves anatomical knowledge, sterile technique, hemostasis, tissue handling, closure, anesthesia, and management of complications.

A scar is also not guaranteed to heal into the shape you intended.
​

9. Bone smashing​

injuring facial bones is not a reliable method of growing them.

Bone remodeling is a controlled biological process, whereas blunt trauma produces an unpredictable injury response.

It only works by developing a tissue which can be good for now but long term it is not.
​

10. Orthodontics​

If the underlying problem is actually skeletal or dental, orthodontics are different from DIY methods.

Depending on the diagnosis, legitimate treatment can include orthodontic movement, orthognathic surgery, genioplasty, or other procedures.

These approaches start by identifying the problem and then fix them according to the problem
​

11. Rhinoplasty and structural nasal changes​

The nose can make or break the face. thats why small changes can make ur harmony high or low.

But the nose is also structurally and functionally complicated. Cartilage, bone, skin thickness, airway anatomy, and previous trauma all matter.

rhino is the best way.
​

12. Skin procedures​

Professional chemical peels, microneedling, lasers, IPL, and similar procedures can target specific problems such as acne scarring, pigmentation, vascular lesions, or texture.

The mistake is assuming that stronger automatically means better.

Skin can be damaged by excessive thermal energy, excessive depth, infection, or treatment of the wrong skin type. A procedure should be selected according to the problem u have rather than according to how "aggressive" it sounds.
​

13. Supplements and drugs​

communities often present supplements, hormones, peptides, research chemicals, and drugs as if each has a predictable cosmetic effect.

That is usually an enormous oversimplification.

A substance can have a real biological mechanism while still having poor evidence for the specific outcome being claimed. "It changes blah blah pathway" does not automatically mean "it will improve facial features."

Unregulated products introduce another variable: you may not actually be receiving the substance or concentration advertised.
​

14. The risk/reward hierarchy​

A useful way to organize ascension helpers is:

Lowest risk :
sleep, nutrition, appropriate body composition, sunscreen, skincare, grooming, hairstyle, dental hygiene, photography.

Moderate:
skincare acids that do work for ur problem, orthodontics, professional dermatologic procedures, professionally administered cosmetic injectables.

Higher:
surgery, permanent tissue removal, structural skeletal procedures.

DIY risk/reward:
diy fillers, fat-dissolving injections, self buccal fat removal, and injecting unknown products can help u and flame u its a 50 50% of both the things happening.
​

15. The most important law​

The goal shouldn't be "ill be the best looking guy in the world"

The goal should be to reach ur maximum potential.

If an intervention can produce a 10% improvement but has a realistic possibility of producing permanent blindness, tissue death, severe infection, or disfigurement, it is not that good.even if u see someone getting result from it. just like trading some get the lifestyle others lose what they have.

improvements that seem boring and normal such as skincare, gym, orthodontic, hairstyle, facial hair, sleep, sunscreen can give u a much larger change than one high risk method that can 30% give u a good face and 70%destroy what u even have rn.

start from the bottom if u get success from doing normal things dont go deep.
thankyou

​
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If your goal is to improve facial aesthetics as much as possible including extreme methods, the biggest mistake is treating every intervention as equivalent. Facial appearance comes from several interacting systems, skeletal structure, soft-tissue volume, body-fat distribution, skin quality, hair, teeth, eyes, and overall how good they work tg. Some changes are relatively low-risk and reversible; others involve permanent tissue alteration or injections and can produce complications that are far worse than the original aesthetic problem.
​

1. Start with the basics​

Before considering procedures or drugs, optimize the variables that have the largest benefit-to-risk ratio:

Body composition: Reducing excess facial fat can make the jawline and cheekbones more visible u cant be fat and say u dont have a jawline or cheek hollows most of that comes at 10 % bf, but aggressive dieting can also make the face look gaunt and unhealthy. If someone is already very lean, further weight loss may make facial aesthetics worse rather than better.
View attachment 65690

Sleep: Poor sleep can worsen facial puffiness, dark circles, skin appearance, and overall face.

Skin: Consistent sunscreen, cleansing, moisturization, and evidence-based acne/pigmentation treatments generally provide a much better result than directly hopping on something.

Hair: Hairstyle, facial hair, eyebrows, and haircut can change how u look like even if ur chopped
View attachment 65691.

Dental health: Teeth, bite, and orthodontic alignment can affect facial appearance and should be assessed professionally rather than attempting mechanical DIY modifications and they r mostly cope for eg thumbpulling (i hate that faggot patel).

Photography: Camera distance, lighting, head position, and expression can dramatically change perceived facial proportions. most niggas on forums post pics of their face clicked zoomed in their face even if they mtn irl theyll look like a sub5.
​

2. Retinoids and skincare​

Topical retinoids have substantially more evidence than most "looksmax" skincare hacks. Retinoids can improve acne, texture, pigmentation, and some signs of photoaging through effects on epidermal turnover and dermal remodeling.

They will def not grow bones and will not fundamentally change jaw projection, cheekbone position, or orbital anatomy.

Other useful categories include sunscreen, vitamin C, niacinamide, azelaic acid, moisturizers, and pigment-targeting treatments depending on the actual problem.

The important principle is treat the skin problem you actually have rather than stacking ten irritating products together.
​

3. Botox / botulinum toxin​

Botulinum toxin is a legitimate medical treatment, but it is frequently misunderstood in looksmax community or any other looks one.

It temporarily reduces muscle activity. Depending on the muscle treated, this can alter the appearance of facial lines or, in selected cases, change the apparent shape of areas such as the masseter.

That does not mean Botox is a general-purpose facial sculpting drug.

effects include bruising, asymmetry, unintended muscle weakness, eyelid or brow drooping, and in rare circumstances more serious systemic effects. The American Academy of Dermatology specifically warns against obtaining botulinum toxin from questionable online sources or having it administered in non-medical settings.
​

4. Dermal fillers​

Fillers can increase volume in areas such as the lips, cheeks, chin, and jawline when appropriately selected and professionally administered.

if you 100% know how to diy I WOULD SUGGEST IT THEN ONLTY FOR DIY USE.

The most concerning complication is accidental entry of filler into a blood vessel. This can interrupt blood flow and potentially cause tissue necrosis, blindness, stroke, or other permanent injury. Infection, nodules, granulomas, allergic reactions, and persistent lumps are additional possibilities.

Permanent fillers can also be particularly problematic because removing them may require additional procedures or surgery and can sometimes be extremely difficult.

For that reason, online filler purchased for self-injection is one of the worst possible risk trades in ur looks
​

5. Needle-free filler pens​

These deserve their own category because they are often marketed online as an easier alternative to conventional injections.

The high pressure used by needle-free devices can cause uncontrolled placement and tissue damage. written complications include scarring, infection, vascular blockage, tissue necrosis, and eye injury.
​

6. Fat-dissolving injections​

This category is particularly important because online forums frequently treat different substances as interchangeable.

They aren't.

fat-dissolving injectables r Aqualyx, Lipodissolve, Lipo Lab, and Kabelline. Reported complications include serious infections, permanent scars, skin deformities, cysts, and painful deep nodules. Self-injection has specifically been associated with these complications.

In the United States, deoxycholic acid (Kybella) is an approved injectable for reducing submental fat in adults. Its approval is specifically for fat beneath the chin not arbitrary facial fat compartment.

The important part is that "fat dissolving" does not mean "harmlessly melts fat." Destroying adipose tissue through an injection also exposes surrounding tissue to the inflammatory process and creates opportunities for infection, asymmetry, scarring, nerve injury, and other complications.
​

7. Buccal fat removal​

Buccal fat removal permanently removes a portion of the fat compartment inside the cheek.

The goal is increased cheek hollowing and greater definition between the cheekbone and lower face.

The problem is that facial aging naturally tends to reduce soft-tissue volume. Removing a significant amount of deep cheek fat when young can therefore produce an overly hollow appearance later.

There is also an important issue: the buccal region contains important nerves and blood vessels. I would never recommend to diy.
​

8. DIY cutting, lip cutting, scarification, and tissue removal​

Cutting facial tissue yourself is not safe at all and can make ur looks worst.

The desired change does not justify the uncontrolled variables: depth, anatomy, bleeding, contamination, infection, wound healing, scar formation, nerve damage, and asymmetry.

A dangerous misconception is that a sufficiently precise cut can reproduce a professional procedure. Professional surgery isn't simply about making the right incision; it involves anatomical knowledge, sterile technique, hemostasis, tissue handling, closure, anesthesia, and management of complications.

A scar is also not guaranteed to heal into the shape you intended.
​

9. Bone smashing​

injuring facial bones is not a reliable method of growing them.

Bone remodeling is a controlled biological process, whereas blunt trauma produces an unpredictable injury response.

It only works by developing a tissue which can be good for now but long term it is not.
​

10. Orthodontics​

If the underlying problem is actually skeletal or dental, orthodontics are different from DIY methods.

Depending on the diagnosis, legitimate treatment can include orthodontic movement, orthognathic surgery, genioplasty, or other procedures.

These approaches start by identifying the problem and then fix them according to the problem
​

11. Rhinoplasty and structural nasal changes​

The nose can make or break the face. thats why small changes can make ur harmony high or low.

But the nose is also structurally and functionally complicated. Cartilage, bone, skin thickness, airway anatomy, and previous trauma all matter.

rhino is the best way.
​

12. Skin procedures​

Professional chemical peels, microneedling, lasers, IPL, and similar procedures can target specific problems such as acne scarring, pigmentation, vascular lesions, or texture.

The mistake is assuming that stronger automatically means better.

Skin can be damaged by excessive thermal energy, excessive depth, infection, or treatment of the wrong skin type. A procedure should be selected according to the problem u have rather than according to how "aggressive" it sounds.
​

13. Supplements and drugs​

communities often present supplements, hormones, peptides, research chemicals, and drugs as if each has a predictable cosmetic effect.

That is usually an enormous oversimplification.

A substance can have a real biological mechanism while still having poor evidence for the specific outcome being claimed. "It changes blah blah pathway" does not automatically mean "it will improve facial features."

Unregulated products introduce another variable: you may not actually be receiving the substance or concentration advertised.
​

14. The risk/reward hierarchy​

A useful way to organize ascension helpers is:

Lowest risk :
sleep, nutrition, appropriate body composition, sunscreen, skincare, grooming, hairstyle, dental hygiene, photography.

Moderate:
skincare acids that do work for ur problem, orthodontics, professional dermatologic procedures, professionally administered cosmetic injectables.

Higher:
surgery, permanent tissue removal, structural skeletal procedures.

DIY risk/reward:
diy fillers, fat-dissolving injections, self buccal fat removal, and injecting unknown products can help u and flame u its a 50 50% of both the things happening.
​

15. The most important law​

The goal shouldn't be "ill be the best looking guy in the world"

The goal should be to reach ur maximum potential.

If an intervention can produce a 10% improvement but has a realistic possibility of producing permanent blindness, tissue death, severe infection, or disfigurement, it is not that good.even if u see someone getting result from it. just like trading some get the lifestyle others lose what they have.

improvements that seem boring and normal such as skincare, gym, orthodontic, hairstyle, facial hair, sleep, sunscreen can give u a much larger change than one high risk method that can 30% give u a good face and 70%destroy what u even have rn.

start from the bottom if u get success from doing normal things dont go deep.
thankyou

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guys I can't fucking sleep anymore anything that helps with sleep quality besides melatonin, cold room, dark room, eating meals 3 hour before bed
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If your goal is to improve facial aesthetics as much as possible including extreme methods, the biggest mistake is treating every intervention as equivalent. Facial appearance comes from several interacting systems, skeletal structure, soft-tissue volume, body-fat distribution, skin quality, hair, teeth, eyes, and overall how good they work tg. Some changes are relatively low-risk and reversible; others involve permanent tissue alteration or injections and can produce complications that are far worse than the original aesthetic problem.
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1. Start with the basics​

Before considering procedures or drugs, optimize the variables that have the largest benefit-to-risk ratio:

Body composition: Reducing excess facial fat can make the jawline and cheekbones more visible u cant be fat and say u dont have a jawline or cheek hollows most of that comes at 10 % bf, but aggressive dieting can also make the face look gaunt and unhealthy. If someone is already very lean, further weight loss may make facial aesthetics worse rather than better.
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Sleep: Poor sleep can worsen facial puffiness, dark circles, skin appearance, and overall face.

Skin: Consistent sunscreen, cleansing, moisturization, and evidence-based acne/pigmentation treatments generally provide a much better result than directly hopping on something.

Hair: Hairstyle, facial hair, eyebrows, and haircut can change how u look like even if ur chopped
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Dental health: Teeth, bite, and orthodontic alignment can affect facial appearance and should be assessed professionally rather than attempting mechanical DIY modifications and they r mostly cope for eg thumbpulling (i hate that faggot patel).

Photography: Camera distance, lighting, head position, and expression can dramatically change perceived facial proportions. most niggas on forums post pics of their face clicked zoomed in their face even if they mtn irl theyll look like a sub5.
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2. Retinoids and skincare​

Topical retinoids have substantially more evidence than most "looksmax" skincare hacks. Retinoids can improve acne, texture, pigmentation, and some signs of photoaging through effects on epidermal turnover and dermal remodeling.

They will def not grow bones and will not fundamentally change jaw projection, cheekbone position, or orbital anatomy.

Other useful categories include sunscreen, vitamin C, niacinamide, azelaic acid, moisturizers, and pigment-targeting treatments depending on the actual problem.

The important principle is treat the skin problem you actually have rather than stacking ten irritating products together.
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3. Botox / botulinum toxin​

Botulinum toxin is a legitimate medical treatment, but it is frequently misunderstood in looksmax community or any other looks one.

It temporarily reduces muscle activity. Depending on the muscle treated, this can alter the appearance of facial lines or, in selected cases, change the apparent shape of areas such as the masseter.

That does not mean Botox is a general-purpose facial sculpting drug.

effects include bruising, asymmetry, unintended muscle weakness, eyelid or brow drooping, and in rare circumstances more serious systemic effects. The American Academy of Dermatology specifically warns against obtaining botulinum toxin from questionable online sources or having it administered in non-medical settings.
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4. Dermal fillers​

Fillers can increase volume in areas such as the lips, cheeks, chin, and jawline when appropriately selected and professionally administered.

if you 100% know how to diy I WOULD SUGGEST IT THEN ONLTY FOR DIY USE.

The most concerning complication is accidental entry of filler into a blood vessel. This can interrupt blood flow and potentially cause tissue necrosis, blindness, stroke, or other permanent injury. Infection, nodules, granulomas, allergic reactions, and persistent lumps are additional possibilities.

Permanent fillers can also be particularly problematic because removing them may require additional procedures or surgery and can sometimes be extremely difficult.

For that reason, online filler purchased for self-injection is one of the worst possible risk trades in ur looks
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5. Needle-free filler pens​

These deserve their own category because they are often marketed online as an easier alternative to conventional injections.

The high pressure used by needle-free devices can cause uncontrolled placement and tissue damage. written complications include scarring, infection, vascular blockage, tissue necrosis, and eye injury.
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6. Fat-dissolving injections​

This category is particularly important because online forums frequently treat different substances as interchangeable.

They aren't.

fat-dissolving injectables r Aqualyx, Lipodissolve, Lipo Lab, and Kabelline. Reported complications include serious infections, permanent scars, skin deformities, cysts, and painful deep nodules. Self-injection has specifically been associated with these complications.

In the United States, deoxycholic acid (Kybella) is an approved injectable for reducing submental fat in adults. Its approval is specifically for fat beneath the chin not arbitrary facial fat compartment.

The important part is that "fat dissolving" does not mean "harmlessly melts fat." Destroying adipose tissue through an injection also exposes surrounding tissue to the inflammatory process and creates opportunities for infection, asymmetry, scarring, nerve injury, and other complications.
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7. Buccal fat removal​

Buccal fat removal permanently removes a portion of the fat compartment inside the cheek.

The goal is increased cheek hollowing and greater definition between the cheekbone and lower face.

The problem is that facial aging naturally tends to reduce soft-tissue volume. Removing a significant amount of deep cheek fat when young can therefore produce an overly hollow appearance later.

There is also an important issue: the buccal region contains important nerves and blood vessels. I would never recommend to diy.
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8. DIY cutting, lip cutting, scarification, and tissue removal​

Cutting facial tissue yourself is not safe at all and can make ur looks worst.

The desired change does not justify the uncontrolled variables: depth, anatomy, bleeding, contamination, infection, wound healing, scar formation, nerve damage, and asymmetry.

A dangerous misconception is that a sufficiently precise cut can reproduce a professional procedure. Professional surgery isn't simply about making the right incision; it involves anatomical knowledge, sterile technique, hemostasis, tissue handling, closure, anesthesia, and management of complications.

A scar is also not guaranteed to heal into the shape you intended.
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9. Bone smashing​

injuring facial bones is not a reliable method of growing them.

Bone remodeling is a controlled biological process, whereas blunt trauma produces an unpredictable injury response.

It only works by developing a tissue which can be good for now but long term it is not.
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10. Orthodontics​

If the underlying problem is actually skeletal or dental, orthodontics are different from DIY methods.

Depending on the diagnosis, legitimate treatment can include orthodontic movement, orthognathic surgery, genioplasty, or other procedures.

These approaches start by identifying the problem and then fix them according to the problem
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11. Rhinoplasty and structural nasal changes​

The nose can make or break the face. thats why small changes can make ur harmony high or low.

But the nose is also structurally and functionally complicated. Cartilage, bone, skin thickness, airway anatomy, and previous trauma all matter.

rhino is the best way.
​

12. Skin procedures​

Professional chemical peels, microneedling, lasers, IPL, and similar procedures can target specific problems such as acne scarring, pigmentation, vascular lesions, or texture.

The mistake is assuming that stronger automatically means better.

Skin can be damaged by excessive thermal energy, excessive depth, infection, or treatment of the wrong skin type. A procedure should be selected according to the problem u have rather than according to how "aggressive" it sounds.
​

13. Supplements and drugs​

communities often present supplements, hormones, peptides, research chemicals, and drugs as if each has a predictable cosmetic effect.

That is usually an enormous oversimplification.

A substance can have a real biological mechanism while still having poor evidence for the specific outcome being claimed. "It changes blah blah pathway" does not automatically mean "it will improve facial features."

Unregulated products introduce another variable: you may not actually be receiving the substance or concentration advertised.
​

14. The risk/reward hierarchy​

A useful way to organize ascension helpers is:

Lowest risk :
sleep, nutrition, appropriate body composition, sunscreen, skincare, grooming, hairstyle, dental hygiene, photography.

Moderate:
skincare acids that do work for ur problem, orthodontics, professional dermatologic procedures, professionally administered cosmetic injectables.

Higher:
surgery, permanent tissue removal, structural skeletal procedures.

DIY risk/reward:
diy fillers, fat-dissolving injections, self buccal fat removal, and injecting unknown products can help u and flame u its a 50 50% of both the things happening.
​

15. The most important law​

The goal shouldn't be "ill be the best looking guy in the world"

The goal should be to reach ur maximum potential.

If an intervention can produce a 10% improvement but has a realistic possibility of producing permanent blindness, tissue death, severe infection, or disfigurement, it is not that good.even if u see someone getting result from it. just like trading some get the lifestyle others lose what they have.

improvements that seem boring and normal such as skincare, gym, orthodontic, hairstyle, facial hair, sleep, sunscreen can give u a much larger change than one high risk method that can 30% give u a good face and 70%destroy what u even have rn.

start from the bottom if u get success from doing normal things dont go deep.
thankyou

​
Lost me at 9 bro
 

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