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Why would low test high tren be better then high test high tren?
 
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Both test and tren crush your SHBG to the ground so you get way more free circulating hormones, more DHT conversion, more E2 conversion, what matters the most is the DHT conversion cause you get way more androgens acting on your tissues, (skin, scalp, prostate, hearth etc)

It's also a cleaner mechanism overall, why would you wanna use a high dose of test if tren is already almost 5x stronger? even though tren also has a 3-5x higher binding affinity to the AR than test there's no need to have another androgen competing for the receptor occupation.

Running a higher dose of test would cause issues with the mechanism, also dealing with the sides of tren is enough, and well, overall tren is way more potent in various other categories, test...

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Both test and tren crush your SHBG to the ground so you get way more free circulating hormones, more DHT conversion, more E2 conversion, what matters the most is the DHT conversion cause you get way more androgens acting on your tissues, (skin, scalp, prostate, hearth etc)

It's also a cleaner mechanism overall, why would you wanna use a high dose of test if tren is already almost 5x stronger? even though tren also has a 3-5x higher binding affinity to the AR than test there's no need to have another androgen competing for the receptor occupation.

Running a higher dose of test would cause issues with the mechanism, also dealing with the sides of tren is enough, and well, overall tren is way more potent in various other categories, test should only be used to keep your testosterone levels stable.

TLDR: let the more potent AAS do the heavy lifting.
 
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Both test and tren crush your SHBG to the ground so you get way more free circulating hormones, more DHT conversion, more E2 conversion, what matters the most is the DHT conversion cause you get way more androgens acting on your tissues, (skin, scalp, prostate, hearth etc)

It's also a cleaner mechanism overall, why would you wanna use a high dose of test if tren is already almost 5x stronger? even though tren also has a 3-5x higher binding affinity to the AR than test there's no need to have another androgen competing for the receptor occupation.

Running a higher dose of test would cause issues with the mechanism, also dealing with the sides of tren is enough, and well, overall tren is way more potent in various other categories.
rewrote it so it's clearer @Doodest
 

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Both test and tren crush your SHBG to the ground so you get way more free circulating hormones, more DHT conversion, more E2 conversion, what matters the most is the DHT conversion cause you get way more androgens acting on your tissues, also because it's a cleaner mechanism overall, why would you wanna use a high dose of test if tren is already almost 5x stronger? even though tren also has a 3-5x higher binding affinity to the AR than test there's no need to have another androgen competing for the receptor occupation.
at the same time, high dose testosterone isnt nearly as neruotoxic in the long run as tren is,

high prolactin levels can fuck with bone development too btw so it may impair appostional bone growth, look at prolactins gene transcriptions when it comes to osteoblastic and cartilage cells

and tren closes growth plates early due to how it transcribes genes in the cartilage cells, test and specifically anvar which is a better alternative increases the amount of locks in the igf1 receptor increasing the sensitivity in the long run, unlike trens spike and flatline

trens anticatabolic affects isnt an excuse in this scenario as all its benefits for cartilage and height get raped by the gene transcriptions in the cartilage

a better alternative is low dose anavar chronically dosed at 2.5mg for a increased height velocity and increased fph (with ai ofc too to retain as much bone age as possible when ur on it)
 

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at the same time, high dose testosterone isnt nearly as neruotoxic in the long run as tren is,

high prolactin levels can fuck with bone development too btw so it may impair appostional bone growth

and tren closes growth plates early due to how it transcribes genes in the cartilage cells, test and specifically anvar which is a better alternative increases the amount of locks in the igf1 receptor increasing the sensitivity in the long run, unlike trens spike and flatline

trens anticatabolic affects isnt an excuse in this scenario as all its benefits for cartilage and height get raped by the gene transcriptions in the cartilage

a better alternative is low dose anavar chronically dosed at 2.5mg for a increased height velocity and increased fph (with ai ofc too to retain as much bone age as possible when ur on it)
Nobody asked for your opinion, he was just asking why you should run lower test than tren, not if it's the best idea.
 

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Nobody asked for your opinion, he was just asking why you should run lower test than tren, not if it's the best idea.
he literally asked everybody for their opinion, thats why i revealed my opinion
 

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Both test and tren crush your SHBG to the ground so you get way more free circulating hormones, more DHT conversion, more E2 conversion, what matters the most is the DHT conversion cause you get way more androgens acting on your tissues, (skin, scalp, prostate, hearth etc)

It's also a cleaner mechanism overall, why would you wanna use a high dose of test if tren is already almost 5x stronger? even though tren also has a 3-5x higher binding affinity to the AR than test there's no need to have another androgen competing for the receptor occupation.

Running a higher dose of test would cause issues with the mechanism, also dealing with the sides of tren is enough, and well, overall tren is way more potent in various other categories, test should only be used to keep your testosterone levels stable.

TLDR: let the more potent AAS do the heavy lifting.
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So what dosage would you recommend? I was thinking 175-200 test and 300-350 tren
Both test and tren crush your SHBG to the ground so you get way more free circulating hormones, more DHT conversion, more E2 conversion, what matters the most is the DHT conversion cause you get way more androgens acting on your tissues, (skin, scalp, prostate, hearth etc)

It's also a cleaner mechanism overall, why would you wanna use a high dose of test if tren is already almost 5x stronger? even though tren also has a 3-5x higher binding affinity to the AR than test there's no need to have another androgen competing for the receptor occupation.

Running a higher dose of test would cause issues with the mechanism, also dealing with the sides of tren is enough, and well, overall tren is way more potent in various other categories, test should only be used to keep your testosterone levels stable.

TLDR: let the more potent AAS do the heavy lifting.
 

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So what dosage would you recommend? I was thinking 175-200 test and 300-350 tren
yeah seems reasonable, tho running 300mg tren is too much imo, 200 is enough by far, in reality, microdosing mogs.
 

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