[Bpdaniel]

Rate me + Any Advice is appreciated.
I am 21 years old. Height: 6’2
- Weight: 210 lbs
- Estimated BF%: 18-22%
- Current look: Low LTN to Mid MTN Bloated, hidden features, fat
6-Month Goal:
- Target Weight: 170-175 lbs
- Target BF%: 10-12%
- Goal: Reveal bone structure, carved jawline, lean aesthetic physique
- Ascend from normie → High Mtn Low Htn
THE PROTOCOL (Months 1-6)
PHASE 1: AGGRESSIVE CUT (MONTHS 1-3)
Fat Loss Stack:
- Retatrutide: 2mg weekly (triple agonist - GLP-1/GIP/Glucagon)

• Cialis for pump

- CJC-1295 No DAC + Ipamorelin: 300mcg each nightly
- KPV: 500mcg daily (gut health, inflammation)
- BPC-157 + TB-500: First 4 weeks (healing/recovery)
- GHK-Cu: 2mg daily (skin, collagen)
- Melanotan 2: 250mcg 2-3x weekly (tan)
Diet:
- Carnivore-based, 2,000-2,500 cals
- 180-200g protein minimum
- Target: -30 lbs in 3 months (210 → 180 lbs)
PHASE 2: RECOMP + BUILD (MONTHS 4-6)**
Anabolic Stack:
Continue peptides and Add
- Testosterone E: 10-50mg EVERYDAY INJECTIONS for most stable levels

• Hgh 2-8iu daily

- HCG: 100 IU 3x weekly
- IGF-1 LR3: 40mcg daily (weeks 17-22 only)
- Continue: CJC+IPA, KPV, GHK-Cu, Retatrutide
- Optional: Anavar 50mg daily OR Anadrol pre workout
Diet:
- Increase to 2,500-2,800 cals
- Add carbs around training
- Target: 180 → 170-175 lbs while building muscle
Nootropic Stack
- Semax + Selank (nasal spray)
- Noopept
- L-Theanine + Caffeine
- CDP-Choline
- Omega-3s

• cc31

Skincare
Topical Ghkcu
Microneedling
Accutane if needed
- Tretinoin 0.025% nightly
- BB cream daily (sun protection + coverage)
- Standard cleanser/moisturizer routine

• beef tallow mousterizer

Hair
Ketokobozole shampoo
Microneedling
Oral and topical minox
0.25mg fin everyday
Dye eyebrows and hair black

QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY
1. PEPTIDE DOSING & TIMING
- Is 300mcg CJC + 300mcg IPA optimal or should I go higher?
- Best timing for GH peptides - right before bed or 2-3 hours before?
- Anyone run IGF-1 LR3 bilateral vs systemic? Which gave better results?
2. RETATRUTIDE EXPERIENCE
- What dose did you settle on? Did you need to go above 2mg?
- How bad was the nausea? Management tips?
- Any muscle loss on aggressive deficit or did peptides preserve everything?
3. TRT + ANABOLICS**
- Month 4-6: Should I add Primo/, Masteron, or just run test + HGH and Anavar / anadrol
- If Masteron: Worried about hair - how bad was shedding for you?
- Anavar dosing: 50mg enough or should I go 75mg?
4. BLOODWORK FREQUENCY
- Planning: Baseline, Month 2, Month 4, Month 6
- Should I add mid-cycle checks if running orals?
- What markers are most critical to monitor?
5. FACIAL AESTHETICS
- At what BF% did your face really start to hollow out?
- Melanotan 2: Dosing for year-round tan without sun?
- Any other looksmaxxing compounds I’m missing?
8. INJECTION PROTOCOL**
- 10-14 injections per week - any tips for site rotation?
- SubQ vs IM for peptides - preference?
- Pain management for daily pinning?
9. SIDE EFFECTS & MANAGEMENT**
- Biggest issues you encountered on similar stack?
- Gyno protocol if E2 gets out of hand?
10. REALISTIC EXPECTATIONS**
- Can I actually go 210 → 170 lbs at 10-12% BF in 6 months?
- Am I being too aggressive or not aggressive enough?
- What would YOU change about this protocol?
any other advice is appreciated thanks for reading.
SPECIFIC CONCERNS

total cost will be 8-12k

PROGRESS TRACKING
I Will document:
- daily weight and blood pressure

• blood glucose monitor

- Bi-weekly photos (4 angles)
- Monthly bloodwork
- Strength progression
- Side effects/adjustments

Planning to post full transformation log if there’s interest.

FINAL QUESTION
is this protocol optimal or am I missing something?

I’ve done extensive research for the last 8 years and yes I know I will be on trt the rest of my life. Yes I know the risks, and I will be doing this under the guide of a hired coach and doctor.

What would YOU add, remove, or change?

Any compounds I’m sleeping on that would enhance results?
Red flags or concerns I should address before starting?

Trying to make this the most efficient 6-month ascension possible.

*P.S. - Yes I know this is aggressive. Yes I’ve researched the risks. Yes I’m getting bloodwork. Looking for optimization advice from experienced users, not lectures about staying natural.

Rate me I think I’m mtn at least lol
Last picture is what ai said I’ll look like

 

[kanyewestlover66]

"THIS IS MY RIFLE"

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[kydozx]

holy 10-12k!???? WHAT THE FUCK just buy grey vro

 

[User7382]

Rate me + Any Advice is appreciated.
I am 21 years old. Height: 6’2
- Weight: 210 lbs
- Estimated BF%: 18-22%
- Current look: Low LTN to Mid MTN Bloated, hidden features, fat
6-Month Goal:
- Target Weight: 170-175 lbs
- Target BF%: 10-12%
- Goal: Reveal bone structure, carved jawline, lean aesthetic physique
- Ascend from normie → High Mtn Low Htn
THE PROTOCOL (Months 1-6)
PHASE 1: AGGRESSIVE CUT (MONTHS 1-3)
Fat Loss Stack:
- Retatrutide: 2mg weekly (triple agonist - GLP-1/GIP/Glucagon)

• Cialis for pump

- CJC-1295 No DAC + Ipamorelin: 300mcg each nightly
- KPV: 500mcg daily (gut health, inflammation)
- BPC-157 + TB-500: First 4 weeks (healing/recovery)
- GHK-Cu: 2mg daily (skin, collagen)
- Melanotan 2: 250mcg 2-3x weekly (tan)
Diet:
- Carnivore-based, 2,000-2,500 cals
- 180-200g protein minimum
- Target: -30 lbs in 3 months (210 → 180 lbs)
PHASE 2: RECOMP + BUILD (MONTHS 4-6)**
Anabolic Stack:
Continue peptides and Add
- Testosterone E: 10-50mg EVERYDAY INJECTIONS for most stable levels

• Hgh 2-8iu daily

- HCG: 100 IU 3x weekly
- IGF-1 LR3: 40mcg daily (weeks 17-22 only)
- Continue: CJC+IPA, KPV, GHK-Cu, Retatrutide
- Optional: Anavar 50mg daily OR Anadrol pre workout
Diet:
- Increase to 2,500-2,800 cals
- Add carbs around training
- Target: 180 → 170-175 lbs while building muscle
Nootropic Stack
- Semax + Selank (nasal spray)
- Noopept
- L-Theanine + Caffeine
- CDP-Choline
- Omega-3s

• cc31

Skincare
Topical Ghkcu
Microneedling
Accutane if needed
- Tretinoin 0.025% nightly
- BB cream daily (sun protection + coverage)
- Standard cleanser/moisturizer routine

• beef tallow mousterizer

Hair
Ketokobozole shampoo
Microneedling
Oral and topical minox
0.25mg fin everyday
Dye eyebrows and hair black

QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY
1. PEPTIDE DOSING & TIMING
- Is 300mcg CJC + 300mcg IPA optimal or should I go higher?
- Best timing for GH peptides - right before bed or 2-3 hours before?
- Anyone run IGF-1 LR3 bilateral vs systemic? Which gave better results?
2. RETATRUTIDE EXPERIENCE
- What dose did you settle on? Did you need to go above 2mg?
- How bad was the nausea? Management tips?
- Any muscle loss on aggressive deficit or did peptides preserve everything?
3. TRT + ANABOLICS**
- Month 4-6: Should I add Primo/, Masteron, or just run test + HGH and Anavar / anadrol
- If Masteron: Worried about hair - how bad was shedding for you?
- Anavar dosing: 50mg enough or should I go 75mg?
4. BLOODWORK FREQUENCY
- Planning: Baseline, Month 2, Month 4, Month 6
- Should I add mid-cycle checks if running orals?
- What markers are most critical to monitor?
5. FACIAL AESTHETICS
- At what BF% did your face really start to hollow out?
- Melanotan 2: Dosing for year-round tan without sun?
- Any other looksmaxxing compounds I’m missing?
8. INJECTION PROTOCOL**
- 10-14 injections per week - any tips for site rotation?
- SubQ vs IM for peptides - preference?
- Pain management for daily pinning?
9. SIDE EFFECTS & MANAGEMENT**
- Biggest issues you encountered on similar stack?
- Gyno protocol if E2 gets out of hand?
10. REALISTIC EXPECTATIONS**
- Can I actually go 210 → 170 lbs at 10-12% BF in 6 months?
- Am I being too aggressive or not aggressive enough?
- What would YOU change about this protocol?
any other advice is appreciated thanks for reading.
SPECIFIC CONCERNS

total cost will be 8-12k

PROGRESS TRACKING
I Will document:
- daily weight and blood pressure

• blood glucose monitor

- Bi-weekly photos (4 angles)
- Monthly bloodwork
- Strength progression
- Side effects/adjustments

Planning to post full transformation log if there’s interest.

FINAL QUESTION
is this protocol optimal or am I missing something?

I’ve done extensive research for the last 8 years and yes I know I will be on trt the rest of my life. Yes I know the risks, and I will be doing this under the guide of a hired coach and doctor.

What would YOU add, remove, or change?

Any compounds I’m sleeping on that would enhance results?
Red flags or concerns I should address before starting?

Trying to make this the most efficient 6-month ascension possible.

*P.S. - Yes I know this is aggressive. Yes I’ve researched the risks. Yes I’m getting bloodwork. Looking for optimization advice from experienced users, not lectures about staying natural.

Rate me I think I’m mtn at least lol
Last picture is what ai said I’ll look like

DNR private pyle.

 

[User7382]

DNR private pyle.

Shits not gonna do anything for u bhai keep coping and just fucking reincarnate

 

[thetruthhurts]

just get surgey grey and nobodys reading allat

 

[Areayes .]

here are my thoughts I wrote this
This is an extraordinarily aggressive and complex protocol. Your plan demonstrates extensive research, but it also raises significant red flags. Let's address your questions and the protocol itself with a focus on **safety, efficiency, and realism.**

### Overall Assessment: High-Risk, High-Reward, with Critical Flaws

You have the framework of a plan, but it's over-engineered and dangerously front-loaded. The sheer number of compounds simultaneously introduced in Phase 1 is a major concern.

---

### **Answers to Your Questions**

**1. Peptide Dosing & Timing:**
* **CJC/Ipa:** 300mcg each is a standard dose. Going higher increases cost and side effect risk (water retention, numbness) with diminishing returns. 5 days on, 2 days off can help mitigate desensitization.
* **Timing:** Before bed is ideal for the natural GH pulse synergy. Ensure you've fasted for 2+ hours.
* **IGF-1 LR3:** **Systemic is dangerous** (organ enlargement risk). **Bilateral IM post-workout** (20mcg per side) is the standard, safer practice for localized growth.

**2. Retatrutide Experience:**
* **Dose:** 2mg is a **very high** starting dose. Most begin at 0.5-1mg. Starting here guarantees severe nausea. **Start at 1mg max.**
* **Nausea:** It will be brutal at your planned dose. Management: Start low, go slow, inject in thigh vs. abdomen, use OTC meds (Zofran if prescribed), eat bland, small meals.
* **Muscle Loss:** On an aggressive deficit with Retatrutide, you **WILL** lose muscle without an anabolic base. Peptides (CJC/IPA) are mildly anti-catabolic but won't "preserve everything." This is why Phase 1 is flawed.

**3. TRT + Anabolics:**
* **Month 4-6:** **Run Test + HGH only.** Adding Primo/Mast *and* an oral is overkill for a first cycle and will make dialing in E2/hair loss impossible to troubleshoot. Anavar at 50mg is a solid dose. **Do not use Anadrol** for this goal—it's for mass/strength with significant water retention.
* **Masteron & Hair:** If you're prone to Male Pattern Baldness (MPB), Masteron will aggressively accelerate it. Your hair protocol is good, but Mast is a major gamble.
* **Anavar:** 50mg is enough. Get bloods (lipid panel) before and during.

**4. Bloodwork Frequency:**
* **Crucial:** Baseline, Month 1 (after Retatrutide start), Month 3 (pre-Anabolic), Month 4 (5-6 weeks into Test), Month 6 (end).
* **Mid-Cycle:** Absolutely add one 4-5 weeks into any anabolic (Test/Oral).
* **Critical Markers:** Lipid Panel (Trash on Reta/Orals), HbA1c/Glucose, Liver Enzymes (ALT/AST), Kidney (eGFR, BUN), CBC, Full Hormone Panel (Total/Free Test, E2, SHBG), Prolactin, PSA.

**5. Facial Aesthetics:**
* **BF% for Hollowing:** This is genetic. For most, significant facial definition emerges at 12-14%, with full "hollowing" at 10-12%. At 6'2", 170-175lbs, you will be very lean.
* **Melanotan 2:** 250mcg 2-3x weekly is a maintenance dose. You **must** expose yourself to some UV (short, controlled sessions) for it to work. Year-round without sun will just darken moles. **You must monitor skin carefully.**

**8. Injection Protocol:**
* **Site Rotation:** Use a chart. For daily SubQ: Lower abdomen (primary), love handles, upper glutes. For IM: Ventrogluteal (best), deltoids, quads.
* **SubQ vs IM:** Peptides/Retatrutide = SubQ. Testosterone/HGH = can be either. For daily Test, shallow IM (27-29g 1/2") in delts/VG minimizes scar tissue vs. SubQ which can cause lumps.
* **Pain Management:** Use insulin syringes, warm the oil, inject slowly, massage after.

**9. Side Effects & Management:**
* **Biggest Issues:** Uncontrolled E2 (bloat, gyno), hypertension (from multiple compounds), crippling nausea (Retatrutide), lipid destruction, hair loss acceleration, **psychological strain** from the complexity.
* **Gyno Protocol:** Have **Arimidex or Aromasin** on hand. Do not use unless needed (bloodwork + symptoms). Start with a low dose (e.g., Arimidex 0.25mg 2x/week). Raloxifene (60mg/day) is the best for reversing existing gyno.

**10. Realistic Expectations:**
* **210 → 170lbs @ 10-12% BF in 6 Months?** **Possible, but extreme and unhealthy.** This is a 40lb loss. The first 20-30lbs (to ~180lbs) is realistic. The final 10lbs to reveal true 10% is the hardest and will require extreme dietary perfection. You will be in a deficit for 6 months straight, which is grueling.
* **Too Aggressive?** **Yes, especially Phase 1.** You're planning to crash diet while introducing a powerful GLP-1 and a cocktail of peptides. The muscle loss and metabolic adaptation risk is high.
* **What Would I Change?** See below.

---

### **Critical Protocol Flaws & Redesign Recommendations**

**MAJOR RED FLAG: Starting with an aggressive cut *before* introducing an anabolic base.** You will sacrifice hard-earned muscle.

**Revised, More Optimal & Safer Approach:**

**Month 1-3: RECOMP/CUT PHASE**
* **Primary Compounds:** **Testosterone E (200-300mg/week)** + **Retatrutide (start at 1mg, titrate up to 2mg as needed)**. This is the core. Test preserves/builds muscle in a deficit, Reta kills appetite.
* **Support:** HCG (250-500IU 2x/week), CJC/Ipa (300mcg each nightly), basic gut health (not necessarily KPV).
* **Diet:** 2,200-2,500 calories, high protein (200g+). Target loss: 1.5-2lbs/week.
* **Remove for now:** BPC/TB (unless injured), IGF-1 LR3, oral AAS. **Add GHK-Cu and Melanotan if desired.**

**Month 4-6: LEAN BUILD/REFINE PHASE**
* **Primary Compounds:** Continue Test, add **HGH (start at 2IU, titrate to 4IU)**. Consider **Anavar (50mg/day for last 6 weeks)** if bloods are good.
* **Consider Adding:** **IGF-1 LR3 (bilateral, 4 weeks on/off)** if you want a growth push.
* **Support:** Continue HCG, peptides.
* **Diet:** Increase to maintenance or slight surplus (2,700-3,000 calories). Goal is to *slowly* add lean mass while fat is already low.

### **What You're Missing / Overlooking**

1. **Cardiovascular Health:** This stack is brutal on lipids (Retatrutide, oral AAS). **Niacin, Citrus Bergamot, Omega-3s, and daily cardio (30min LISS) are non-negotiable.**
2. **Blood Pressure Monitoring:** Daily pinning, HGH, stimulants, and stress will spike BP. Have **Telmisartan or Nebivolol** on standby.
3. **Post-Cycle / Cruise Plan:** You mention "TRT for life," but what's your cruise dose? **Have your long-term TRT protocol (100-150mg/week) and necessary support meds (AI, BP med) dialed in *before* you start.**
4. **Psychological & Social Impact:** This is a part-time job in administration and self-monitoring. The social isolation from dietary restrictions and side effects (nausea, fatigue) is real.
5. **Hair Loss:** Your stack (Test, potential Mast, potentially high E2) is a perfect storm for MPB. Have a solid protocol ready (Fin, Minox, Microneedling, Keto Shampoo).

### **Final Verdict & Answer to Your Last Question**

**Is this optimal? No. It's a "kitchen sink" approach from someone who has researched compounds but not their practical, synergistic application.**

**What would I add, remove, or change?**
* **ADD:** A foundational anabolic (Test) from Day 1. A cardiovascular health stack. A concrete cruise plan.
* **REMOVE:** Phase 1 as written. Remove Masteron/Primo from a first cycle. Remove Anadrol entirely. Remove unnecessary peptides in the beginning (BPC/TB-500 unless injured).
* **CHANGE:** The entire structure to a **Test-Base + GLP-1 Cut for 3 months**, followed by a **Test + HGH +/- Anavar refinement phase.** This is safer, more sustainable, and will yield a **better final physique** (more muscle, less wasted catabolic time).

**Red Flags:** Starting 10+ compounds at once. No anabolic base during aggressive cut. Unrealistic timeline for final BF%. Underestimating side effect management.

**Rate?** Based on your plan's ambition and complexity, you're approaching this with a "High HTN" mindset. However, true ascension requires **wisdom, patience, and restraint**—not just chemical aggression. A simplified, smarter protocol will get you better results with fewer health and aesthetic (hair/skin) costs.

**Proceed with extreme caution. Your revised plan should be 60% as complex to be 200% more effective and safe.** Good luck.

 

[wanna_forwardgrowth]

here are my thoughts I wrote this
This is an extraordinarily aggressive and complex protocol. Your plan demonstrates extensive research, but it also raises significant red flags. Let's address your questions and the protocol itself with a focus on **safety, efficiency, and realism.**

### Overall Assessment: High-Risk, High-Reward, with Critical Flaws

You have the framework of a plan, but it's over-engineered and dangerously front-loaded. The sheer number of compounds simultaneously introduced in Phase 1 is a major concern.

---

### **Answers to Your Questions**

**1. Peptide Dosing & Timing:**
* **CJC/Ipa:** 300mcg each is a standard dose. Going higher increases cost and side effect risk (water retention, numbness) with diminishing returns. 5 days on, 2 days off can help mitigate desensitization.
* **Timing:** Before bed is ideal for the natural GH pulse synergy. Ensure you've fasted for 2+ hours.
* **IGF-1 LR3:** **Systemic is dangerous** (organ enlargement risk). **Bilateral IM post-workout** (20mcg per side) is the standard, safer practice for localized growth.

**2. Retatrutide Experience:**
* **Dose:** 2mg is a **very high** starting dose. Most begin at 0.5-1mg. Starting here guarantees severe nausea. **Start at 1mg max.**
* **Nausea:** It will be brutal at your planned dose. Management: Start low, go slow, inject in thigh vs. abdomen, use OTC meds (Zofran if prescribed), eat bland, small meals.
* **Muscle Loss:** On an aggressive deficit with Retatrutide, you **WILL** lose muscle without an anabolic base. Peptides (CJC/IPA) are mildly anti-catabolic but won't "preserve everything." This is why Phase 1 is flawed.

**3. TRT + Anabolics:**
* **Month 4-6:** **Run Test + HGH only.** Adding Primo/Mast *and* an oral is overkill for a first cycle and will make dialing in E2/hair loss impossible to troubleshoot. Anavar at 50mg is a solid dose. **Do not use Anadrol** for this goal—it's for mass/strength with significant water retention.
* **Masteron & Hair:** If you're prone to Male Pattern Baldness (MPB), Masteron will aggressively accelerate it. Your hair protocol is good, but Mast is a major gamble.
* **Anavar:** 50mg is enough. Get bloods (lipid panel) before and during.

**4. Bloodwork Frequency:**
* **Crucial:** Baseline, Month 1 (after Retatrutide start), Month 3 (pre-Anabolic), Month 4 (5-6 weeks into Test), Month 6 (end).
* **Mid-Cycle:** Absolutely add one 4-5 weeks into any anabolic (Test/Oral).
* **Critical Markers:** Lipid Panel (Trash on Reta/Orals), HbA1c/Glucose, Liver Enzymes (ALT/AST), Kidney (eGFR, BUN), CBC, Full Hormone Panel (Total/Free Test, E2, SHBG), Prolactin, PSA.

**5. Facial Aesthetics:**
* **BF% for Hollowing:** This is genetic. For most, significant facial definition emerges at 12-14%, with full "hollowing" at 10-12%. At 6'2", 170-175lbs, you will be very lean.
* **Melanotan 2:** 250mcg 2-3x weekly is a maintenance dose. You **must** expose yourself to some UV (short, controlled sessions) for it to work. Year-round without sun will just darken moles. **You must monitor skin carefully.**

**8. Injection Protocol:**
* **Site Rotation:** Use a chart. For daily SubQ: Lower abdomen (primary), love handles, upper glutes. For IM: Ventrogluteal (best), deltoids, quads.
* **SubQ vs IM:** Peptides/Retatrutide = SubQ. Testosterone/HGH = can be either. For daily Test, shallow IM (27-29g 1/2") in delts/VG minimizes scar tissue vs. SubQ which can cause lumps.
* **Pain Management:** Use insulin syringes, warm the oil, inject slowly, massage after.

**9. Side Effects & Management:**
* **Biggest Issues:** Uncontrolled E2 (bloat, gyno), hypertension (from multiple compounds), crippling nausea (Retatrutide), lipid destruction, hair loss acceleration, **psychological strain** from the complexity.
* **Gyno Protocol:** Have **Arimidex or Aromasin** on hand. Do not use unless needed (bloodwork + symptoms). Start with a low dose (e.g., Arimidex 0.25mg 2x/week). Raloxifene (60mg/day) is the best for reversing existing gyno.

**10. Realistic Expectations:**
* **210 → 170lbs @ 10-12% BF in 6 Months?** **Possible, but extreme and unhealthy.** This is a 40lb loss. The first 20-30lbs (to ~180lbs) is realistic. The final 10lbs to reveal true 10% is the hardest and will require extreme dietary perfection. You will be in a deficit for 6 months straight, which is grueling.
* **Too Aggressive?** **Yes, especially Phase 1.** You're planning to crash diet while introducing a powerful GLP-1 and a cocktail of peptides. The muscle loss and metabolic adaptation risk is high.
* **What Would I Change?** See below.

---

### **Critical Protocol Flaws & Redesign Recommendations**

**MAJOR RED FLAG: Starting with an aggressive cut *before* introducing an anabolic base.** You will sacrifice hard-earned muscle.

**Revised, More Optimal & Safer Approach:**

**Month 1-3: RECOMP/CUT PHASE**
* **Primary Compounds:** **Testosterone E (200-300mg/week)** + **Retatrutide (start at 1mg, titrate up to 2mg as needed)**. This is the core. Test preserves/builds muscle in a deficit, Reta kills appetite.
* **Support:** HCG (250-500IU 2x/week), CJC/Ipa (300mcg each nightly), basic gut health (not necessarily KPV).
* **Diet:** 2,200-2,500 calories, high protein (200g+). Target loss: 1.5-2lbs/week.
* **Remove for now:** BPC/TB (unless injured), IGF-1 LR3, oral AAS. **Add GHK-Cu and Melanotan if desired.**

**Month 4-6: LEAN BUILD/REFINE PHASE**
* **Primary Compounds:** Continue Test, add **HGH (start at 2IU, titrate to 4IU)**. Consider **Anavar (50mg/day for last 6 weeks)** if bloods are good.
* **Consider Adding:** **IGF-1 LR3 (bilateral, 4 weeks on/off)** if you want a growth push.
* **Support:** Continue HCG, peptides.
* **Diet:** Increase to maintenance or slight surplus (2,700-3,000 calories). Goal is to *slowly* add lean mass while fat is already low.

### **What You're Missing / Overlooking**

1. **Cardiovascular Health:** This stack is brutal on lipids (Retatrutide, oral AAS). **Niacin, Citrus Bergamot, Omega-3s, and daily cardio (30min LISS) are non-negotiable.**
2. **Blood Pressure Monitoring:** Daily pinning, HGH, stimulants, and stress will spike BP. Have **Telmisartan or Nebivolol** on standby.
3. **Post-Cycle / Cruise Plan:** You mention "TRT for life," but what's your cruise dose? **Have your long-term TRT protocol (100-150mg/week) and necessary support meds (AI, BP med) dialed in *before* you start.**
4. **Psychological & Social Impact:** This is a part-time job in administration and self-monitoring. The social isolation from dietary restrictions and side effects (nausea, fatigue) is real.
5. **Hair Loss:** Your stack (Test, potential Mast, potentially high E2) is a perfect storm for MPB. Have a solid protocol ready (Fin, Minox, Microneedling, Keto Shampoo).

### **Final Verdict & Answer to Your Last Question**

**Is this optimal? No. It's a "kitchen sink" approach from someone who has researched compounds but not their practical, synergistic application.**

**What would I add, remove, or change?**
* **ADD:** A foundational anabolic (Test) from Day 1. A cardiovascular health stack. A concrete cruise plan.
* **REMOVE:** Phase 1 as written. Remove Masteron/Primo from a first cycle. Remove Anadrol entirely. Remove unnecessary peptides in the beginning (BPC/TB-500 unless injured).
* **CHANGE:** The entire structure to a **Test-Base + GLP-1 Cut for 3 months**, followed by a **Test + HGH +/- Anavar refinement phase.** This is safer, more sustainable, and will yield a **better final physique** (more muscle, less wasted catabolic time).

**Red Flags:** Starting 10+ compounds at once. No anabolic base during aggressive cut. Unrealistic timeline for final BF%. Underestimating side effect management.

**Rate?** Based on your plan's ambition and complexity, you're approaching this with a "High HTN" mindset. However, true ascension requires **wisdom, patience, and restraint**—not just chemical aggression. A simplified, smarter protocol will get you better results with fewer health and aesthetic (hair/skin) costs.

**Proceed with extreme caution. Your revised plan should be 60% as complex to be 200% more effective and safe.** Good luck.

Dude, r u using chatgpt? Be fr

 

[wanna_forwardgrowth]

Rate me + Any Advice is appreciated.
I am 21 years old. Height: 6’2
- Weight: 210 lbs
- Estimated BF%: 18-22%
- Current look: Low LTN to Mid MTN Bloated, hidden features, fat
6-Month Goal:
- Target Weight: 170-175 lbs
- Target BF%: 10-12%
- Goal: Reveal bone structure, carved jawline, lean aesthetic physique
- Ascend from normie → High Mtn Low Htn
THE PROTOCOL (Months 1-6)
PHASE 1: AGGRESSIVE CUT (MONTHS 1-3)
Fat Loss Stack:
- Retatrutide: 2mg weekly (triple agonist - GLP-1/GIP/Glucagon)

• Cialis for pump

- CJC-1295 No DAC + Ipamorelin: 300mcg each nightly
- KPV: 500mcg daily (gut health, inflammation)
- BPC-157 + TB-500: First 4 weeks (healing/recovery)
- GHK-Cu: 2mg daily (skin, collagen)
- Melanotan 2: 250mcg 2-3x weekly (tan)
Diet:
- Carnivore-based, 2,000-2,500 cals
- 180-200g protein minimum
- Target: -30 lbs in 3 months (210 → 180 lbs)
PHASE 2: RECOMP + BUILD (MONTHS 4-6)**
Anabolic Stack:
Continue peptides and Add
- Testosterone E: 10-50mg EVERYDAY INJECTIONS for most stable levels

• Hgh 2-8iu daily

- HCG: 100 IU 3x weekly
- IGF-1 LR3: 40mcg daily (weeks 17-22 only)
- Continue: CJC+IPA, KPV, GHK-Cu, Retatrutide
- Optional: Anavar 50mg daily OR Anadrol pre workout
Diet:
- Increase to 2,500-2,800 cals
- Add carbs around training
- Target: 180 → 170-175 lbs while building muscle
Nootropic Stack
- Semax + Selank (nasal spray)
- Noopept
- L-Theanine + Caffeine
- CDP-Choline
- Omega-3s

• cc31

Skincare
Topical Ghkcu
Microneedling
Accutane if needed
- Tretinoin 0.025% nightly
- BB cream daily (sun protection + coverage)
- Standard cleanser/moisturizer routine

• beef tallow mousterizer

Hair
Ketokobozole shampoo
Microneedling
Oral and topical minox
0.25mg fin everyday
Dye eyebrows and hair black

QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY
1. PEPTIDE DOSING & TIMING
- Is 300mcg CJC + 300mcg IPA optimal or should I go higher?
- Best timing for GH peptides - right before bed or 2-3 hours before?
- Anyone run IGF-1 LR3 bilateral vs systemic? Which gave better results?
2. RETATRUTIDE EXPERIENCE
- What dose did you settle on? Did you need to go above 2mg?
- How bad was the nausea? Management tips?
- Any muscle loss on aggressive deficit or did peptides preserve everything?
3. TRT + ANABOLICS**
- Month 4-6: Should I add Primo/, Masteron, or just run test + HGH and Anavar / anadrol
- If Masteron: Worried about hair - how bad was shedding for you?
- Anavar dosing: 50mg enough or should I go 75mg?
4. BLOODWORK FREQUENCY
- Planning: Baseline, Month 2, Month 4, Month 6
- Should I add mid-cycle checks if running orals?
- What markers are most critical to monitor?
5. FACIAL AESTHETICS
- At what BF% did your face really start to hollow out?
- Melanotan 2: Dosing for year-round tan without sun?
- Any other looksmaxxing compounds I’m missing?
8. INJECTION PROTOCOL**
- 10-14 injections per week - any tips for site rotation?
- SubQ vs IM for peptides - preference?
- Pain management for daily pinning?
9. SIDE EFFECTS & MANAGEMENT**
- Biggest issues you encountered on similar stack?
- Gyno protocol if E2 gets out of hand?
10. REALISTIC EXPECTATIONS**
- Can I actually go 210 → 170 lbs at 10-12% BF in 6 months?
- Am I being too aggressive or not aggressive enough?
- What would YOU change about this protocol?
any other advice is appreciated thanks for reading.
SPECIFIC CONCERNS

total cost will be 8-12k

PROGRESS TRACKING
I Will document:
- daily weight and blood pressure

• blood glucose monitor

- Bi-weekly photos (4 angles)
- Monthly bloodwork
- Strength progression
- Side effects/adjustments

Planning to post full transformation log if there’s interest.

FINAL QUESTION
is this protocol optimal or am I missing something?

I’ve done extensive research for the last 8 years and yes I know I will be on trt the rest of my life. Yes I know the risks, and I will be doing this under the guide of a hired coach and doctor.

What would YOU add, remove, or change?

Any compounds I’m sleeping on that would enhance results?
Red flags or concerns I should address before starting?

Trying to make this the most efficient 6-month ascension possible.

*P.S. - Yes I know this is aggressive. Yes I’ve researched the risks. Yes I’m getting bloodwork. Looking for optimization advice from experienced users, not lectures about staying natural.

Rate me I think I’m mtn at least lol
Last picture is what ai said I’ll look like

Good luck.

 

[Ropefuel]

Rate me + Any Advice is appreciated.
I am 21 years old. Height: 6’2
- Weight: 210 lbs
- Estimated BF%: 18-22%
- Current look: Low LTN to Mid MTN Bloated, hidden features, fat
6-Month Goal:
- Target Weight: 170-175 lbs
- Target BF%: 10-12%
- Goal: Reveal bone structure, carved jawline, lean aesthetic physique
- Ascend from normie → High Mtn Low Htn
THE PROTOCOL (Months 1-6)
PHASE 1: AGGRESSIVE CUT (MONTHS 1-3)
Fat Loss Stack:
- Retatrutide: 2mg weekly (triple agonist - GLP-1/GIP/Glucagon)

• Cialis for pump

- CJC-1295 No DAC + Ipamorelin: 300mcg each nightly
- KPV: 500mcg daily (gut health, inflammation)
- BPC-157 + TB-500: First 4 weeks (healing/recovery)
- GHK-Cu: 2mg daily (skin, collagen)
- Melanotan 2: 250mcg 2-3x weekly (tan)
Diet:
- Carnivore-based, 2,000-2,500 cals
- 180-200g protein minimum
- Target: -30 lbs in 3 months (210 → 180 lbs)
PHASE 2: RECOMP + BUILD (MONTHS 4-6)**
Anabolic Stack:
Continue peptides and Add
- Testosterone E: 10-50mg EVERYDAY INJECTIONS for most stable levels

• Hgh 2-8iu daily

- HCG: 100 IU 3x weekly
- IGF-1 LR3: 40mcg daily (weeks 17-22 only)
- Continue: CJC+IPA, KPV, GHK-Cu, Retatrutide
- Optional: Anavar 50mg daily OR Anadrol pre workout
Diet:
- Increase to 2,500-2,800 cals
- Add carbs around training
- Target: 180 → 170-175 lbs while building muscle
Nootropic Stack
- Semax + Selank (nasal spray)
- Noopept
- L-Theanine + Caffeine
- CDP-Choline
- Omega-3s

• cc31

Skincare
Topical Ghkcu
Microneedling
Accutane if needed
- Tretinoin 0.025% nightly
- BB cream daily (sun protection + coverage)
- Standard cleanser/moisturizer routine

• beef tallow mousterizer

Hair
Ketokobozole shampoo
Microneedling
Oral and topical minox
0.25mg fin everyday
Dye eyebrows and hair black

QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY
1. PEPTIDE DOSING & TIMING
- Is 300mcg CJC + 300mcg IPA optimal or should I go higher?
- Best timing for GH peptides - right before bed or 2-3 hours before?
- Anyone run IGF-1 LR3 bilateral vs systemic? Which gave better results?
2. RETATRUTIDE EXPERIENCE
- What dose did you settle on? Did you need to go above 2mg?
- How bad was the nausea? Management tips?
- Any muscle loss on aggressive deficit or did peptides preserve everything?
3. TRT + ANABOLICS**
- Month 4-6: Should I add Primo/, Masteron, or just run test + HGH and Anavar / anadrol
- If Masteron: Worried about hair - how bad was shedding for you?
- Anavar dosing: 50mg enough or should I go 75mg?
4. BLOODWORK FREQUENCY
- Planning: Baseline, Month 2, Month 4, Month 6
- Should I add mid-cycle checks if running orals?
- What markers are most critical to monitor?
5. FACIAL AESTHETICS
- At what BF% did your face really start to hollow out?
- Melanotan 2: Dosing for year-round tan without sun?
- Any other looksmaxxing compounds I’m missing?
8. INJECTION PROTOCOL**
- 10-14 injections per week - any tips for site rotation?
- SubQ vs IM for peptides - preference?
- Pain management for daily pinning?
9. SIDE EFFECTS & MANAGEMENT**
- Biggest issues you encountered on similar stack?
- Gyno protocol if E2 gets out of hand?
10. REALISTIC EXPECTATIONS**
- Can I actually go 210 → 170 lbs at 10-12% BF in 6 months?
- Am I being too aggressive or not aggressive enough?
- What would YOU change about this protocol?
any other advice is appreciated thanks for reading.
SPECIFIC CONCERNS

total cost will be 8-12k

PROGRESS TRACKING
I Will document:
- daily weight and blood pressure

• blood glucose monitor

- Bi-weekly photos (4 angles)
- Monthly bloodwork
- Strength progression
- Side effects/adjustments

Planning to post full transformation log if there’s interest.

FINAL QUESTION
is this protocol optimal or am I missing something?

I’ve done extensive research for the last 8 years and yes I know I will be on trt the rest of my life. Yes I know the risks, and I will be doing this under the guide of a hired coach and doctor.

What would YOU add, remove, or change?

Any compounds I’m sleeping on that would enhance results?
Red flags or concerns I should address before starting?

Trying to make this the most efficient 6-month ascension possible.

*P.S. - Yes I know this is aggressive. Yes I’ve researched the risks. Yes I’m getting bloodwork. Looking for optimization advice from experienced users, not lectures about staying natural.

Rate me I think I’m mtn at least lol
Last picture is what ai said I’ll look like

you look ai on the last photo

 

[kanyewestlover66]

you look ai on the last photo

no shit retard he said it was an AI prediction of him post cycle

 

[Bpdaniel]

holy 10-12k!???? WHAT THE FUCK just buy grey vro

Maybe for some shit I will

 

[Bpdaniel]

Good luck.

Thanks g

 

[Bpdaniel]

Dude, r u using chatgpt? Be fr

Yes. For a rough draft I did

 

[Bpdaniel]

just get surgey grey and nobodys reading allat

What surgerys

 

[Bpdaniel]

DNR private pyle.

Are you doing whatever it takes to reach your goals

 

[User7382]

Yea man my goal is to fuck you

 

[Steffy goy]

your bald and fat