Well, optimal in general tbh.
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Me and surgerymax were discussing about this.
Zero study info anything above 140 mg of Tren Ace a week will render better results (Take into account this was on COWS and cattle), cows are way way way bigger than humans, it would only make sense to conclude full AR saturation and occupation on skeletal muscle and bones will occur at much much lower doses (20-60 mg give or take).
Zero non anecdotal info supporting taking super fucking high doses of tren will do anything, if anything dose efficacy has shown to decrease on higher doses with tren. We do need to take into account tren studies for humans are very very fucking limited (or non-existent) so the best we got is animal studies and mechanism extrapolations.