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Why you need to stop LDAR and start hitting the gym MORE
(if you want to slay)
Being more muscular makes you more attractive for hook-ups but actively less attractive for relationships.
Women consistently rate guys with better frames and muscles as sexier ~ I'm sure many of you are familiar with the female gaze over abs, biceps, and the back. However, simultaneously, these features also make men seem more unpredictable, more likely to cheat, and less likely to commit to relationships, according to women.
Muscular men slay more at clubs/parties, are more successful sexually, etc - but women actually prefer less muscular men when they want to 'settle down' (fantastic copefuel for some of you reading this, but then again, do you really want a girl who is just 'settling down' after getting fucked every weekend prior to meeting you..?)
Something else backing this up is the importance of facial masculinity (aka how many masculine facial feature you have). I'm sure I don't need to explain this much, seeing as this is a looksmaxxing forum, however, I'm simply reiterating that women shift toward less masculine faces when thinking about long-term partners. The reasoning researchers give is that masculine traits get mentally linked to lower paternal investment, higher likelihood of cheating, and lower trustworthiness. This makes sense if you think about it ~ you wouldn't really expect a pretty boy who looks like Gio Scotti to cheat on you, I guess..?
The unfortunate bit is how much normies overestimate the volume of muscle that women desire. The social role of muscularity in attracting women is, as researchers put it, "exaggerated by men."
So, all in all, building a very muscular physique does make you more attractive - but specifically for slaying. The guys training for size thinking they're maximising their overall attractiveness are actually just shifting what they get selected for, not how attractive they are in general. Whether that's what you want is a separate question, but you should at least know that's what's happening.
Reading back over this, this thread seems kinda redpilled in a way, if you thought so too, don't take it too seriously, cause that wasn't my aim. I genuinely couldn't care less what outcome you get out of reading this, and I don't expect you to go out hating on big guys in the gym - chances are they aren't training for female gaze, and their work is arguably harder and more impressive.
Obviously, if you got fucked by having a shitty frame, women will probably laugh at you, even if you do work out.
And obviously, your face is still most important of all, at least in my eyes.
Kind of a short thread, but it's my first one that actually contributes something to this forum, and hopefully many more to come.
Also, if anybody fucking DNRs me, you will feel the consequences.
Additionally, chances are some of the things I've said were wrong - I'm still grey after all, so don't be too harsh plz.
(if you want to slay)
To begin with, for most of you, this thread will be water; I'm mainly aiming this towards the small percentage of people on .gg who neglect working out, yet still complain about not getting pussy. And yes, this is a psychology thread, though it may not be obvious from the title, if you keep reading, you will soon realise why I labelled this under 'psychology'.
Being more muscular makes you more attractive for hook-ups but actively less attractive for relationships.
Women consistently rate guys with better frames and muscles as sexier ~ I'm sure many of you are familiar with the female gaze over abs, biceps, and the back. However, simultaneously, these features also make men seem more unpredictable, more likely to cheat, and less likely to commit to relationships, according to women.
Muscular men slay more at clubs/parties, are more successful sexually, etc - but women actually prefer less muscular men when they want to 'settle down' (fantastic copefuel for some of you reading this, but then again, do you really want a girl who is just 'settling down' after getting fucked every weekend prior to meeting you..?)
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0146167207303022
A study published in the Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin tested exactly this across six separate experiments.
A study published in the Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin tested exactly this across six separate experiments.
Something else backing this up is the importance of facial masculinity (aka how many masculine facial feature you have). I'm sure I don't need to explain this much, seeing as this is a looksmaxxing forum, however, I'm simply reiterating that women shift toward less masculine faces when thinking about long-term partners. The reasoning researchers give is that masculine traits get mentally linked to lower paternal investment, higher likelihood of cheating, and lower trustworthiness. This makes sense if you think about it ~ you wouldn't really expect a pretty boy who looks like Gio Scotti to cheat on you, I guess..?
The unfortunate bit is how much normies overestimate the volume of muscle that women desire. The social role of muscularity in attracting women is, as researchers put it, "exaggerated by men."
So, all in all, building a very muscular physique does make you more attractive - but specifically for slaying. The guys training for size thinking they're maximising their overall attractiveness are actually just shifting what they get selected for, not how attractive they are in general. Whether that's what you want is a separate question, but you should at least know that's what's happening.
Reading back over this, this thread seems kinda redpilled in a way, if you thought so too, don't take it too seriously, cause that wasn't my aim. I genuinely couldn't care less what outcome you get out of reading this, and I don't expect you to go out hating on big guys in the gym - chances are they aren't training for female gaze, and their work is arguably harder and more impressive.
Obviously, if you got fucked by having a shitty frame, women will probably laugh at you, even if you do work out.
And obviously, your face is still most important of all, at least in my eyes.
Kind of a short thread, but it's my first one that actually contributes something to this forum, and hopefully many more to come.
I don't know many people that well on this forum, so if I've tagged you here you probably often like my posts, or I just fw u (sorry if I've missed anybody out)
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Hexum
iblamevisual
hippocamp
mod
XvideosDemon
muissocool
hoodsickle
dookiebootybutt59
GeneticLotteryLoser Also, if anybody fucking DNRs me, you will feel the consequences.
Additionally, chances are some of the things I've said were wrong - I'm still grey after all, so don't be too harsh plz.
