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[Judenbänker]

Inb4, you need to know that I have one best friend and another really really close friend and one more friend that I dont hahe too much contact anymore but sometimes we play games or meet up, hes unnecessary for this story though.
So whenever I meet up with the first two friends and we do stuff (which overall is pretty rare already) that one "lesser" best friend always, and by that I mean literally every single time yet, mentions how we should do activities together more often and how I'm never part of 'their' (him, my best friend and one or two other guys from my class whom Im generally good with but not super close) meetups. I dont know how often these are but a few months ago I noticed that quite often they seem to have spent time together eg when we were in school (back when I still used to go ) and they would talk about it, or just as here, when my friend mentions how Im never part of them. I always reply that I was never asked to join which isnt even untrue, but then he argues that they can never reach out to me and how I never chevk my phone, thats obviously false as I have a phone screentime of about 16h a day and as support for this he always uses that for a period of like 3 weeks I actually didnt check my whatsapp, then got my phone taken away and then broke it and had to get a new one but obviously that was a one time thing. What I cant confirm nor reject is that (once) his messages supposedly only went out to me with like 3 days of delay, who knows... He also says that I'm never there when they plan the activities (for example in school) but I think it wouldnt be too hard to message me?
Also this one time we were in school and they were talking about something that happened which they all seemed to know about and when I asked they were like "oh you werent there" which had only been the case 1 day the last week and later the same day they were talking about something again and I asked if I didnt know about it because it happened when they met up on said day (which was just my conclusion and I wanted to see if I was right) but then they denied it claiming they hadnt met up in the first place
That was some months ago though
Now Im aware this seems obvious but Im wondering why would he always bring it up whenever we're together if they all dont want me to be part of the meetups in the first place? Wouldnt it make more sense to just not bring it up at all to sort of hide it? Or is this some sort of underlying mockery?
I also thought that maybe only this one guy doesnt want me there but apart from him mocking me for my height (which is part of the reason why I cant go to school anymore) he's okay and we're good
Also they all assume Im gay like they make jokes about it but not in the joke type like they always end up insisting on it being true even though I havent even acted gay, I havent been around them in the first place
Im not sure how serious this is cause one of them is muslim and we've been hating on queers and fags a lot together and he always said he'd instantly cut off anyone who turns out to be gay which obviously isnt really the case
Being labelled gay would completely finish off my reputation in the bad way

 

[Circadex]

Inb4, you need to know that I have one best friend and another really really close friend and one more friend that I dont hahe too much contact anymore but sometimes we play games or meet up, hes unnecessary for this story though.
So whenever I meet up with the first two friends and we do stuff (which overall is pretty rare already) that one "lesser" best friend always, and by that I mean literally every single time yet, mentions how we should do activities together more often and how I'm never part of 'their' (him, my best friend and one or two other guys from my class whom Im generally good with but not super close) meetups. I dont know how often these are but a few months ago I noticed that quite often they seem to have spent time together eg when we were in school (back when I still used to go ) and they would talk about it, or just as here, when my friend mentions how Im never part of them. I always reply that I was never asked to join which isnt even untrue, but then he argues that they can never reach out to me and how I never chevk my phone, thats obviously false as I have a phone screentime of about 16h a day and as support for this he always uses that for a period of like 3 weeks I actually didnt check my whatsapp, then got my phone taken away and then broke it and had to get a new one but obviously that was a one time thing. What I cant confirm nor reject is that (once) his messages supposedly only went out to me with like 3 days of delay, who knows... He also says that I'm never there when they plan the activities (for example in school) but I think it wouldnt be too hard to message me?
Also this one time we were in school and they were talking about something that happened which they all seemed to know about and when I asked they were like "oh you werent there" which had only been the case 1 day the last week and later the same day they were talking about something again and I asked if I didnt know about it because it happened when they met up on said day (which was just my conclusion and I wanted to see if I was right) but then they denied it claiming they hadnt met up in the first place
That was some months ago though
Now Im aware this seems obvious but Im wondering why would he always bring it up whenever we're together if they all dont want me to be part of the meetups in the first place? Wouldnt it make more sense to just not bring it up at all to sort of hide it? Or is this some sort of underlying mockery?
I also thought that maybe only this one guy doesnt want me there but apart from him mocking me for my height (which is part of the reason why I cant go to school anymore) he's okay and we're good
Also they all assume Im gay like they make jokes about it but not in the joke type like they always end up insisting on it being true even though I havent even acted gay, I havent been around them in the first place
Im not sure how serious this is cause one of them is muslim and we've been hating on queers and fags a lot together and he always said he'd instantly cut off anyone who turns out to be gay which obviously isnt really the case
Being labelled gay would completely finish off my reputation in the bad way

Aren't you gay

 

[Judenbänker]

Aren't you gay

Yes
Honestly I expected a dnr

 

[inertia]

Inb4, you need to know that I have one best friend and another really really close friend and one more friend that I dont hahe too much contact anymore but sometimes we play games or meet up, hes unnecessary for this story though.
So whenever I meet up with the first two friends and we do stuff (which overall is pretty rare already) that one "lesser" best friend always, and by that I mean literally every single time yet, mentions how we should do activities together more often and how I'm never part of 'their' (him, my best friend and one or two other guys from my class whom Im generally good with but not super close) meetups. I dont know how often these are but a few months ago I noticed that quite often they seem to have spent time together eg when we were in school (back when I still used to go ) and they would talk about it, or just as here, when my friend mentions how Im never part of them. I always reply that I was never asked to join which isnt even untrue, but then he argues that they can never reach out to me and how I never chevk my phone, thats obviously false as I have a phone screentime of about 16h a day and as support for this he always uses that for a period of like 3 weeks I actually didnt check my whatsapp, then got my phone taken away and then broke it and had to get a new one but obviously that was a one time thing. What I cant confirm nor reject is that (once) his messages supposedly only went out to me with like 3 days of delay, who knows... He also says that I'm never there when they plan the activities (for example in school) but I think it wouldnt be too hard to message me?
Also this one time we were in school and they were talking about something that happened which they all seemed to know about and when I asked they were like "oh you werent there" which had only been the case 1 day the last week and later the same day they were talking about something again and I asked if I didnt know about it because it happened when they met up on said day (which was just my conclusion and I wanted to see if I was right) but then they denied it claiming they hadnt met up in the first place
That was some months ago though
Now Im aware this seems obvious but Im wondering why would he always bring it up whenever we're together if they all dont want me to be part of the meetups in the first place? Wouldnt it make more sense to just not bring it up at all to sort of hide it? Or is this some sort of underlying mockery?
I also thought that maybe only this one guy doesnt want me there but apart from him mocking me for my height (which is part of the reason why I cant go to school anymore) he's okay and we're good
Also they all assume Im gay like they make jokes about it but not in the joke type like they always end up insisting on it being true even though I havent even acted gay, I havent been around them in the first place
Im not sure how serious this is cause one of them is muslim and we've been hating on queers and fags a lot together and he always said he'd instantly cut off anyone who turns out to be gay which obviously isnt really the case
Being labelled gay would completely finish off my reputation in the bad way

Shorten to like 20 words or less nigga

 

[Dexter]

This is a really perceptive breakdown of a frustrating social dynamic. You’re not overthinking it—you’re spotting contradictions that *are* genuinely weird.

Let me give you a straight reading of what’s likely going on, based on what you wrote.

## The core contradiction you identified is real

> “Why would he always bring it up if they don’t want me there?”

You’re right: if they truly wanted to exclude you quietly, they’d just… not mention it. Bringing it up *every single time* serves a different purpose.

Most likely: **He’s not trying to include you. He’s trying to make *you* feel like the problem.**

By saying “you’re never there” and “you don’t check your phone,” he shifts responsibility entirely onto you. It sounds like an invitation, but it’s actually a performance—for himself, for your best friend, or for the group—of “see, I tried.” It lets him feel like the inclusive one while doing nothing to actually include you.

## The “delayed messages” and “you weren’t there” incidents are red flags

- The 3-day message delay? Technically possible with network issues, but extremely unlikely repeatedly. More likely: he’s lying or exaggerating to win the argument.
- The “oh you weren’t there” → then later denying they met up at all? That’s outright weird. People who aren’t hiding something don’t contradict themselves like that.

That suggests at least *some* level of conscious exclusion, not just carelessness.

## Why bring it up if they’re excluding you?

Possible reasons (not mutually exclusive):

1. **To maintain a fiction** – They want to feel like *you’re* the one drifting away, not that they’re shutting you out. Bringing it up reassures them.
2. **To test you** – See if you’ll get desperate, beg to be included, or get angry. Some friend groups (especially teenage/young adult male groups) run on low-grade social dominance games.
3. **Guilt** – The one friend might actually feel bad sometimes, so he mentions it to relieve his own guilt without changing anything.
4. **Mockery** – You mentioned that possibility. Given the height mocking and the weird insistence you’re gay, yeah, that tracks. Some people keep someone around *as* the butt of jokes.

## The gay thing is a separate warning sign

You said: *“We’ve been hating on queers and fags a lot together and he said he’d instantly cut off anyone who turns out to be gay”* — and now they’re insisting *you* are gay, even though you haven’t acted that way around them.

That’s not random. That’s either:
- Them projecting or looking for a target, or
- A slow-burn way to isolate or humiliate you later (“See? We knew it all along”).

Even if you’re not gay, being *labeled* gay in a homophobic social circle is a weapon. They’ve already decided the label fits you for their own reasons.

## What I’d actually recommend

You said you don’t go to school anymore (partly due to the height mocking). That changes things. If you’re not in daily contact with these people, ask yourself:

**What do you actually get from these friendships now?**

- Your “best friend” — does he ever reach out one-on-one? Defend you? Invite you himself? Or does he just go along with the other guy’s framing?
- Your “really really close friend” — same question.

If the answer is “not much” or “only when we meet up rarely,” you might be holding onto people who’ve already moved on (or worse, turned weird about you).

A direct approach (if you want to test it once): Next time he says “you’re never there,” say calmly: *“Okay, then text me next time. I’ll come. No excuses.”* See if they actually do. If they don’t, you have your final answer.

But honestly? The fact that you already stopped going to school partly because of how they treated you (height mocking) tells me you already know, deep down, that this isn’t a healthy dynamic.

You deserve friends who don’t make you solve riddles about whether you’re actually welcome.

 

[Judenbänker]

Shorten to like 20 words or less nigga

Shorten to like 20 words or less nigga

Friends exclude me from hangouts, joke Im gay, then complain I never join; unsure if it’s mockery or misunderstanding.

 

[Judenbänker]

This is a really perceptive breakdown of a frustrating social dynamic. You’re not overthinking it—you’re spotting contradictions that *are* genuinely weird.

Let me give you a straight reading of what’s likely going on, based on what you wrote.

## The core contradiction you identified is real

> “Why would he always bring it up if they don’t want me there?”

You’re right: if they truly wanted to exclude you quietly, they’d just… not mention it. Bringing it up *every single time* serves a different purpose.

Most likely: **He’s not trying to include you. He’s trying to make *you* feel like the problem.**

By saying “you’re never there” and “you don’t check your phone,” he shifts responsibility entirely onto you. It sounds like an invitation, but it’s actually a performance—for himself, for your best friend, or for the group—of “see, I tried.” It lets him feel like the inclusive one while doing nothing to actually include you.

## The “delayed messages” and “you weren’t there” incidents are red flags

- The 3-day message delay? Technically possible with network issues, but extremely unlikely repeatedly. More likely: he’s lying or exaggerating to win the argument.
- The “oh you weren’t there” → then later denying they met up at all? That’s outright weird. People who aren’t hiding something don’t contradict themselves like that.

That suggests at least *some* level of conscious exclusion, not just carelessness.

## Why bring it up if they’re excluding you?

Possible reasons (not mutually exclusive):

1. **To maintain a fiction** – They want to feel like *you’re* the one drifting away, not that they’re shutting you out. Bringing it up reassures them.
2. **To test you** – See if you’ll get desperate, beg to be included, or get angry. Some friend groups (especially teenage/young adult male groups) run on low-grade social dominance games.
3. **Guilt** – The one friend might actually feel bad sometimes, so he mentions it to relieve his own guilt without changing anything.
4. **Mockery** – You mentioned that possibility. Given the height mocking and the weird insistence you’re gay, yeah, that tracks. Some people keep someone around *as* the butt of jokes.

## The gay thing is a separate warning sign

You said: *“We’ve been hating on queers and fags a lot together and he said he’d instantly cut off anyone who turns out to be gay”* — and now they’re insisting *you* are gay, even though you haven’t acted that way around them.

That’s not random. That’s either:
- Them projecting or looking for a target, or
- A slow-burn way to isolate or humiliate you later (“See? We knew it all along”).

Even if you’re not gay, being *labeled* gay in a homophobic social circle is a weapon. They’ve already decided the label fits you for their own reasons.

## What I’d actually recommend

You said you don’t go to school anymore (partly due to the height mocking). That changes things. If you’re not in daily contact with these people, ask yourself:

**What do you actually get from these friendships now?**

- Your “best friend” — does he ever reach out one-on-one? Defend you? Invite you himself? Or does he just go along with the other guy’s framing?
- Your “really really close friend” — same question.

If the answer is “not much” or “only when we meet up rarely,” you might be holding onto people who’ve already moved on (or worse, turned weird about you).

A direct approach (if you want to test it once): Next time he says “you’re never there,” say calmly: *“Okay, then text me next time. I’ll come. No excuses.”* See if they actually do. If they don’t, you have your final answer.

But honestly? The fact that you already stopped going to school partly because of how they treated you (height mocking) tells me you already know, deep down, that this isn’t a healthy dynamic.

You deserve friends who don’t make you solve riddles about whether you’re actually welcome.

This is really mean and I dont see why you couldn't just dnr it and let it go if you're uninterested

 

[Circadex]

This is a really perceptive breakdown of a frustrating social dynamic. You’re not overthinking it—you’re spotting contradictions that *are* genuinely weird.

Let me give you a straight reading of what’s likely going on, based on what you wrote.

## The core contradiction you identified is real

> “Why would he always bring it up if they don’t want me there?”

You’re right: if they truly wanted to exclude you quietly, they’d just… not mention it. Bringing it up *every single time* serves a different purpose.

Most likely: **He’s not trying to include you. He’s trying to make *you* feel like the problem.**

By saying “you’re never there” and “you don’t check your phone,” he shifts responsibility entirely onto you. It sounds like an invitation, but it’s actually a performance—for himself, for your best friend, or for the group—of “see, I tried.” It lets him feel like the inclusive one while doing nothing to actually include you.

## The “delayed messages” and “you weren’t there” incidents are red flags

- The 3-day message delay? Technically possible with network issues, but extremely unlikely repeatedly. More likely: he’s lying or exaggerating to win the argument.
- The “oh you weren’t there” → then later denying they met up at all? That’s outright weird. People who aren’t hiding something don’t contradict themselves like that.

That suggests at least *some* level of conscious exclusion, not just carelessness.

## Why bring it up if they’re excluding you?

Possible reasons (not mutually exclusive):

1. **To maintain a fiction** – They want to feel like *you’re* the one drifting away, not that they’re shutting you out. Bringing it up reassures them.
2. **To test you** – See if you’ll get desperate, beg to be included, or get angry. Some friend groups (especially teenage/young adult male groups) run on low-grade social dominance games.
3. **Guilt** – The one friend might actually feel bad sometimes, so he mentions it to relieve his own guilt without changing anything.
4. **Mockery** – You mentioned that possibility. Given the height mocking and the weird insistence you’re gay, yeah, that tracks. Some people keep someone around *as* the butt of jokes.

## The gay thing is a separate warning sign

You said: *“We’ve been hating on queers and fags a lot together and he said he’d instantly cut off anyone who turns out to be gay”* — and now they’re insisting *you* are gay, even though you haven’t acted that way around them.

That’s not random. That’s either:
- Them projecting or looking for a target, or
- A slow-burn way to isolate or humiliate you later (“See? We knew it all along”).

Even if you’re not gay, being *labeled* gay in a homophobic social circle is a weapon. They’ve already decided the label fits you for their own reasons.

## What I’d actually recommend

You said you don’t go to school anymore (partly due to the height mocking). That changes things. If you’re not in daily contact with these people, ask yourself:

**What do you actually get from these friendships now?**

- Your “best friend” — does he ever reach out one-on-one? Defend you? Invite you himself? Or does he just go along with the other guy’s framing?
- Your “really really close friend” — same question.

If the answer is “not much” or “only when we meet up rarely,” you might be holding onto people who’ve already moved on (or worse, turned weird about you).

A direct approach (if you want to test it once): Next time he says “you’re never there,” say calmly: *“Okay, then text me next time. I’ll come. No excuses.”* See if they actually do. If they don’t, you have your final answer.

But honestly? The fact that you already stopped going to school partly because of how they treated you (height mocking) tells me you already know, deep down, that this isn’t a healthy dynamic.

You deserve friends who don’t make you solve riddles about whether you’re actually welcome.

Lazy ass couldn't manually select the text & clicked the copy button

Yes
Honestly I expected a dnr

Wouldn't you be a bit more paranoid?

 

[inertia]

Friends exclude me from hangouts, joke Im gay, then complain I never join; unsure if it’s mockery or misunderstanding.

Just leave them bro you're better of with no friends than 'friends' like that

 

[Judenbänker]

Lazy ass couldn't manually select the text & clicked the copy button

fr dude

Wouldn't you be a bit more paranoid?

In what way?

 

[buccal_FAG_removal]

What the fuck are you saying

 

[Circadex]

fr dude

In what way?

Your friend group despises gays, they're openly homophobic, dragging you into their hate-fueled activity's, swearing to cut-off gay individuals, and you're not the least-bit paranoid? Doesn't your blood boil when you're with them like this? You should have some self respect and cut them off yourself honestly

 

[buccal_FAG_removal]

Your friend group despises gays, they're openly homophobic, dragging you into their hate-fueled activity's, swearing to cut-off gay individuals, and you're not the least-bit paranoid? Doesn't your blood boil when you're with them like this? You should have some self respect and cut them off yourself honestly

pay attention to the username, is this a gay alternative to org i dont understand

 

[Circadex]

pay attention to the username, is this a gay alternative to org i dont understand

No it's not, but most people here aren't senseless bigots

 

[Judenbänker]

What the fuck are you saying

I had some concerns about how understandable it was myself but I cba to proofread it

 

[buccal_FAG_removal]

No it's not, but most people here aren't senseless bigots

I am a senseless bigot

 

[Circadex]

I am a senseless bigot

You're some edgy teenager who's drawn to taboo activities because you never received enough attention as a child & now spend your time provoking individuals for a short-lived dopamine hit, am i right?

 

[Judenbänker]

Your friend group despises gays, they're openly homophobic

Only that one guy really, except my best friend the others would probably only find it weird
Im also rather Homophobic

dragging you into their hate-fueled activity's

The issue is rather that they dont invite me to activities :/

swearing to cut-off gay individuals,

Yeah that one guy

and you're not the least-bit paranoid?

Well I am now because smh they think Im gay

Doesn't your blood boil when you're with them like this?

not really
should I be angry?

You should have some self respect and cut them off yourself honestly

I dont know
I thought about that but I only really have that homophobic guy as friend (except for my bsf), maybe when we dont go to the same school anymore

 

[Judenbänker]

pay attention to the username

Very edgy
its funny ngl

 

[the wizard]

Inb4, you need to know that I have one best friend and another really really close friend and one more friend that I dont hahe too much contact anymore but sometimes we play games or meet up, hes unnecessary for this story though.
So whenever I meet up with the first two friends and we do stuff (which overall is pretty rare already) that one "lesser" best friend always, and by that I mean literally every single time yet, mentions how we should do activities together more often and how I'm never part of 'their' (him, my best friend and one or two other guys from my class whom Im generally good with but not super close) meetups. I dont know how often these are but a few months ago I noticed that quite often they seem to have spent time together eg when we were in school (back when I still used to go ) and they would talk about it, or just as here, when my friend mentions how Im never part of them. I always reply that I was never asked to join which isnt even untrue, but then he argues that they can never reach out to me and how I never chevk my phone, thats obviously false as I have a phone screentime of about 16h a day and as support for this he always uses that for a period of like 3 weeks I actually didnt check my whatsapp, then got my phone taken away and then broke it and had to get a new one but obviously that was a one time thing. What I cant confirm nor reject is that (once) his messages supposedly only went out to me with like 3 days of delay, who knows... He also says that I'm never there when they plan the activities (for example in school) but I think it wouldnt be too hard to message me?
Also this one time we were in school and they were talking about something that happened which they all seemed to know about and when I asked they were like "oh you werent there" which had only been the case 1 day the last week and later the same day they were talking about something again and I asked if I didnt know about it because it happened when they met up on said day (which was just my conclusion and I wanted to see if I was right) but then they denied it claiming they hadnt met up in the first place
That was some months ago though
Now Im aware this seems obvious but Im wondering why would he always bring it up whenever we're together if they all dont want me to be part of the meetups in the first place? Wouldnt it make more sense to just not bring it up at all to sort of hide it? Or is this some sort of underlying mockery?
I also thought that maybe only this one guy doesnt want me there but apart from him mocking me for my height (which is part of the reason why I cant go to school anymore) he's okay and we're good
Also they all assume Im gay like they make jokes about it but not in the joke type like they always end up insisting on it being true even though I havent even acted gay, I havent been around them in the first place
Im not sure how serious this is cause one of them is muslim and we've been hating on queers and fags a lot together and he always said he'd instantly cut off anyone who turns out to be gay which obviously isnt really the case
Being labelled gay would completely finish off my reputation in the bad way

ggs

 

[buccal_FAG_removal]

Very edgy
its funny ngl

I'm different than everyone else and I have to validate myself by calling stuff edgy as I want the moral high ground JFLJFL

 

[Judenbänker]

ggs

 

[Judenbänker]

I'm different than everyone else and I have to validate myself by calling stuff edgy as I want the moral high ground JFLJFL

Whatever bro we all been that one homophobic keyboard warrior already

 

[buccal_FAG_removal]

Whatever bro we all been that one homophobic keyboard warrior already

translating = im a james charles wannabe twink

 

[FatRetard]

Inb4, you need to know that I have one best friend and another really really close friend and one more friend that I dont hahe too much contact anymore but sometimes we play games or meet up, hes unnecessary for this story though.
So whenever I meet up with the first two friends and we do stuff (which overall is pretty rare already) that one "lesser" best friend always, and by that I mean literally every single time yet, mentions how we should do activities together more often and how I'm never part of 'their' (him, my best friend and one or two other guys from my class whom Im generally good with but not super close) meetups. I dont know how often these are but a few months ago I noticed that quite often they seem to have spent time together eg when we were in school (back when I still used to go ) and they would talk about it, or just as here, when my friend mentions how Im never part of them. I always reply that I was never asked to join which isnt even untrue, but then he argues that they can never reach out to me and how I never chevk my phone, thats obviously false as I have a phone screentime of about 16h a day and as support for this he always uses that for a period of like 3 weeks I actually didnt check my whatsapp, then got my phone taken away and then broke it and had to get a new one but obviously that was a one time thing. What I cant confirm nor reject is that (once) his messages supposedly only went out to me with like 3 days of delay, who knows... He also says that I'm never there when they plan the activities (for example in school) but I think it wouldnt be too hard to message me?
Also this one time we were in school and they were talking about something that happened which they all seemed to know about and when I asked they were like "oh you werent there" which had only been the case 1 day the last week and later the same day they were talking about something again and I asked if I didnt know about it because it happened when they met up on said day (which was just my conclusion and I wanted to see if I was right) but then they denied it claiming they hadnt met up in the first place
That was some months ago though
Now Im aware this seems obvious but Im wondering why would he always bring it up whenever we're together if they all dont want me to be part of the meetups in the first place? Wouldnt it make more sense to just not bring it up at all to sort of hide it? Or is this some sort of underlying mockery?
I also thought that maybe only this one guy doesnt want me there but apart from him mocking me for my height (which is part of the reason why I cant go to school anymore) he's okay and we're good
Also they all assume Im gay like they make jokes about it but not in the joke type like they always end up insisting on it being true even though I havent even acted gay, I havent been around them in the first place
Im not sure how serious this is cause one of them is muslim and we've been hating on queers and fags a lot together and he always said he'd instantly cut off anyone who turns out to be gay which obviously isnt really the case
Being labelled gay would completely finish off my reputation in the bad way

Didn’t read, didn’t ask.

You are gay.

 

[Judenbänker]

You are gay.

 

[Circadex]

Only that one guy really, except my best friend the others would probably only find it weird
Im also rather Homophobic

What do you mean you're homophobic? That's pathetic

not really
should I be angry?

Yes?

I dont know
I thought about that but I only really have that homophobic guy as friend (except for my bsf), maybe when we dont go to the same school anymore

Why would you willingly hang around these degenerates

I'm different than everyone else and I have to validate myself by calling stuff edgy as I want the moral high ground JFLJFL

"Moral high-ground" keep coping with your utterly retarded mind, there's genuinely no excuse for homophobia, I've debated it for hours on end and I've never seen a valid reason once. You're some low-IQ halfwit lacking the comprehension to follow anything but your childhood doctrine. Disgusting

 

[Syna]

Im not sure how serious this is cause one of them is muslim and we've been hating on queers and fags a lot together and he always said he'd instantly cut off anyone who turns out to be gay which obviously isnt really the case
Being labelled gay would completely finish off my reputation in the bad way

A little bit off topic but....don't you hate muslims?

And well regarding the rest even if they don’t fully believe you are gay, spreading that rumor gives them power over you and then makes you an outsider, and overall i can say this group dynamic looks unhealthy and super toxic tbh, and imo i think they are definitely excluding you.

 

[Circadex]

A little bit off topic but....don't you hate muslims?

And well regarding the rest even if they don’t fully believe you are gay, spreading that rumor gives them power over you and then makes you an outsider, and overall i can say this group dynamic looks unhealthy and super toxic tbh, and imo i think they are definitely excluding you.

Listen to syna juden

 

[Judenbänker]

What do you mean you're homophobic?

I just dislike homosexuality from a political view also its a bit disgusting in my opinion
Homophobia kinda just stayed after turning gay but Im getting more comfortable by the time

That's pathetic

i know

Yes?

I have to think about that

Why would you willingly hang around these degenerates

Idk we've been friends before I was gay already

 

[Syna]

I just dislike homosexuality from a political view also its a bit disgusting in my opinion
Homophobia kinda just stayed after turning gay but Im getting more comfortable by the time

Stop hating something that is part of yourself boyo, all i can say.

 

[Judenbänker]

A little bit off topic but....don't you hate muslims?

Yes but we just fit characterwise, its not gonna help anyone if I dont make muslim friends
It would be an issue if one day that friendship hinders me from excluding them in any way from my country

And well regarding the rest even if they don’t fully believe you are gay, spreading that rumor gives them power over you and then makes you an outsider

Yeah, I dont think they're actively spreading it but I agree I just cant stop it
I thought about confronting them with it but Im unsure if my bestfriend told them something cause I've been a bit more open to him some time ago about this not admitting anything specifically though
I cant really do anything about it I think

and overall i can say this group dynamic looks unhealthy and super toxic tbh

Imo i think they are definitely excluding you.

 

[Judenbänker]

Stop hating something that is part of yourself boyo, all i can say.

You're right but Im still hoping I can ungay myself somehow

 

[Judenbänker]

Listen to syna juden

Oki

 

[Circadex]

Idk we've been friends before I was gay already

Stop acting like your homosexuality stems from some elitist brainwashing, there's sufficient evidence to theorize a prenatal & genetic influence. Doesn't that sound more likely than psyops? This is just self-hatred

I just dislike homosexuality from a political view also its a bit disgusting in my opinion
Homophobia kinda just stayed after turning gay but Im getting more comfortable by the time

How's it disgusting?

 

[Judenbänker]

Stop acting like your homosexuality stems from some elitist brainwashing, there's sufficient evidence to theorize a prenatal & genetic influence. Doesn't that sound more likely than psyops? This is just self-hatred

Dude I think I would know if I was always gay
I was straight for years even in puberty

And when did I say it's from brainwashing?

How's it disgusting?

Every physical aspect of it is a bit disgusting to me

 

[Syna]

Yes but we just fit characterwise, its not gonna help anyone if I dont make muslim friends
It would be an issue if one day that friendship hinders me from excluding them in any way from my country

I get that point but it's like two enemies being friends with eachother, you are on a group that is openly extremely homophobic, once that rumor solidifies if it ever does it's not gonna be good, so far i know he's the type of friend who says he'd "cut off anyone who's gay," and the group is already pushing the gay label on you boyo, so it's a disaster waiting to happen, especially cause homophobia is openly "extreme" while they're labeling you as gay, even if it's deened as "just a joke" .

 

[Judenbänker]

I get that point but it's like two enemies being friends with eachother, you are on a group that is openly extremely homophobic, once that rumor solidifies if it ever does it's not gonna be good, so far i know he's the type who says he'd "cut off anyone who's gay," and the group is already pushing the gay label on you boyo, so it's a disaster waiting to happen, especially cause homophobia is openly "extreme" while they're labeling you as gay, even if it's deened as "just a joke" .

Tldr its socially over for me innit

 

[Circadex]

Dude I think I would know if I was always gay
I was straight for years even in puberty

And when did I say it's from brainwashing?

Every physical aspect of it is a bit disgusting to me

No you weren't. You're either bi, or suppressed your identity so much you deluded yourself into thinking you were straight. This a genuine occurrence, not too rare either.

And yeah, this is telling. You think every aspect is disgusting even after you "turned" gay. You have a misguided self-view and it's blatantly apparent, it's highly likely what i said before is true due to this

 

[Syna]

Tldr its socially over for me innit

Can't say for sure know, so far? yes, maybe not know or in the next weeks but this whole thing is like a volcano waiting to explode, all i can think is how shit you probably feel interacting with people like that.

 

[Circadex]

Can't say for sure know, so far? yes, maybe not know or in the next weeks but this whole thing is like a volcano waiting to explode, all i can think is how shit you probably feel interacting with people like that.

I'm sensing you've had past struggles with friendship....

 

[Judenbänker]

No you weren't. You're either bi, or suppressed your identity so much you deluded yourself into thinking you were straight. This a genuine occurrence, not too rare either.

And yeah, this is telling. You think every aspect is disgusting even after you "turned" gay. You have a misguided self-view and it's blatantly apparent, it's highly likely what i said before is true due to this

Just ignoring what I said atp
Thanks for the help though

 

[Syna]

I'm sensing you've had past struggles with friendship....

yeah, it was short lived and not anymore thankfully.

 

[Judenbänker]

Can't say for sure know, so far? yes, maybe not know or in the next weeks but this whole thing is like a volcano waiting to explode,

all i can think is how shit you probably feel interacting with people like that.

Not that much actually but thanks for being so considerate

 

[Syna]

You're either bi,

Not that much actually but thanks for being so considerate

Would it be possible for you to perhaps find a new friend group?

 

[Judenbänker]

Would it be possible for you to perhaps find a new friend group?

Not really tbh, most people I was good with are changing to another school soon and im not really close with anyone else
Shouldve made more friends now that I look back
I could fall back to another gay dude tho and keep my current best friend (hes also friends with the gay fuy and doesnt gaf) but that would 1. be outside school only and 2. create a weird situation inside school where Im still friends with my current bsf but not with the group he hangs out with and I think it would also bring him into a sort of "I have to choose" situation
Im already rather isolated so even if something happens I dont think its gonna be too crazy
After summer holidays I'll also have different classes than the muslim guy, together with my best friend and the guy who mocked my height is changing school so I hope this could be a little save
Maybe lifefuel