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Guide HOW TO MINIMIZE ACCUTANE (ISOTRETINOIN) SIDE EFFECTS (2 Viewers)

Guide HOW TO MINIMIZE ACCUTANE (ISOTRETINOIN) SIDE EFFECTS

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How to minimize isotretinoin sides

The following content does not promote or condone any of the mentioned activities below, read at your own risk.

Isotretinoin 20mg/day with a meal containing a high amount of fat,
Desloratadine 5mg/day,
Omega-3 1g/day

Take until your skin is 100% clear and then continue taking it for 2 more months.

Introduction

Recently I've started isotretinoin and after my research compiled the following "stack" to minimize sides while maximizing the benefits. I wanted to write this guide since I haven't seen anything similar on any of the forums and partly outdated regiments are still being recommended.

Also I won't go into any of the basics like spf in this guide.

Traditionally, you would take 0.5 to 1.0mg/kg/day until you reach a cumulative dose target of 120–150mg per kg of your body weight. This frequently causes extreme dryness, joint pain, fatigue, and severe acne purges.

Modern studies strongly support a low-dose approach (typically 20mg/day fixed, or 0.25-0.4mg/kg/day). It yields comparable 24-week results to high doses but with much better patient satisfaction, meaning you won't feel as miserable during your course.

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(https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22016276)

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Group A is traditional dosage, group B is a low dose protocol. No significant difference in acne score change.

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As mentioned before, a low dose protocol has significantly higher patient satisfaction due to lower sides.

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As you can see here the rate of relapse (acne coming back after the course is finished) is not significantly higher in the low dose group compared to the traditional one, more on how we are going to minimize the chance of a relapse later.
(https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21114478/)

Okay so now we've established that a low dose protocol (20mg/day which typically comes out to 0.25-0.4mg/kg/day) mogs the traditional protocol (the exception is if you have severe acne, in that case a traditional dosage (0.5-1mg/kg/day) is probably still the way to go). Now let's get to the additional stuff to further reduce sides.
You are going to want to take Omega 3 daily. In this study they used soft gel capsules at 1g/day.

This is going to help stop your triglycerides/cholesterol from spiking, and it essentially hydrates you from the inside out, significantly reducing dry eyes, cracked lips, and nosebleeds.
When you start isotretinoin, your body triggers a massive histamine and inflammatory response, this is what causes the accutane purge and facial redness. In order to minimize this as much as possible we are going to be taking an antihistamine daily. You should use a second generation antihistamine such as desloratadine (5mg/day) which is what was used in this and most other studies.

As a bonus this even seems to speed up how fast your acne clears up.

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Significant decrease in total lesion counts when using both isotretinoin and desloratadine compared to just isotret.

1780409289134.png

Occurence of flare-ups (purges) are significantly reduced.

1780409451603.png

Again, increased patient satisfaction.
(https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25081735/)
Traditionally people would use the Cumulative Dose Target as a dosing guide for isotretinoin. You would aim to reach a total ingested amount of 120–150 mg per kg of your body weight and then your course was considered finished.

Recent scientific consensus has shifted away from this. We now know that the risk of acne relapse relates more closely to the duration of continuous sebaceous gland suppression rather than hitting an arbitrary milligram target.

So what should you do?

You treat until your skin is 100% clear, and then you continue the medication for exactly 2 more months.

Continuing for an extra 60 days after complete clearance ensures the sebaceous glands are shrunk and "reset," lowering the chance of a relapse.

Because you are using a low dose, hitting clearance + 2 months will naturally take longer. Expect a low-dose course to take 6 to 9+ months rather than the traditional 4 to 5 months.

Thanks for reading
 

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first post and guide so let me know if i messed anything up while formatting
 

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nice, but kinda water still not a bad guide
 

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nice, but kinda water still not a bad guide
"Belle Delphine Lover" The apple doesn't fall far from the tree huh?
 

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nice but you forgot about the most important (imo) thing which is skin barrier health
 

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nice but you forgot about the most important (imo) thing which is skin barrier health
fair enough, like i said i wasnt gonna go into any of the basics like spf, moisturizing etc.

skin barrier health isnt something specific to accutane just basic skincare but i might make another guide at some point including it
 

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How to minimize isotretinoin sides

The following content does not promote or condone any of the mentioned activities below, read at your own risk.

Isotretinoin 20mg/day with a meal containing a high amount of fat,
Desloratadine 5mg/day,
Omega-3 1g/day

Take until your skin is 100% clear and then continue taking it for 2 more months.

Introduction

Recently I've started isotretinoin and after my research compiled the following "stack" to minimize sides while maximizing the benefits. I wanted to write this guide since I haven't seen anything similar on any of the forums and partly outdated regiments are still being recommended.

Also I won't go into any of the basics like spf in this guide.

Traditionally, you would take 0.5 to 1.0mg/kg/day until you reach a cumulative dose target of 120–150mg per kg of your body weight. This frequently causes extreme dryness, joint pain, fatigue, and severe acne purges.

Modern studies strongly support a low-dose approach (typically 20mg/day fixed, or 0.25-0.4mg/kg/day). It yields comparable 24-week results to high doses but with much better patient satisfaction, meaning you won't feel as miserable during your course.

View attachment 53378
(https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22016276)

View attachment 53380
View attachment 53382
Group A is traditional dosage, group B is a low dose protocol. No significant difference in acne score change.

View attachment 53384
As mentioned before, a low dose protocol has significantly higher patient satisfaction due to lower sides.

View attachment 53385
As you can see here the rate of relapse (acne coming back after the course is finished) is not significantly higher in the low dose group compared to the traditional one, more on how we are going to minimize the chance of a relapse later.
(https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21114478/)

Okay so now we've established that a low dose protocol (20mg/day which typically comes out to 0.25-0.4mg/kg/day) mogs the traditional protocol (the exception is if you have severe acne, in that case a traditional dosage (0.5-1mg/kg/day) is probably still the way to go). Now let's get to the additional stuff to further reduce sides.
You are going to want to take Omega 3 daily. In this study they used soft gel capsules at 1g/day.

This is going to help stop your triglycerides/cholesterol from spiking, and it essentially hydrates you from the inside out, significantly reducing dry eyes, cracked lips, and nosebleeds.
When you start isotretinoin, your body triggers a massive histamine and inflammatory response, this is what causes the accutane purge and facial redness. In order to minimize this as much as possible we are going to be taking an antihistamine daily. You should use a second generation antihistamine such as desloratadine (5mg/day) which is what was used in this and most other studies.

As a bonus this even seems to speed up how fast your acne clears up.

View attachment 53409
Significant decrease in total lesion counts when using both isotretinoin and desloratadine compared to just isotret.

View attachment 53410
Occurence of flare-ups (purges) are significantly reduced.

View attachment 53411
Again, increased patient satisfaction.
(https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25081735/)
Traditionally people would use the Cumulative Dose Target as a dosing guide for isotretinoin. You would aim to reach a total ingested amount of 120–150 mg per kg of your body weight and then your course was considered finished.

Recent scientific consensus has shifted away from this. We now know that the risk of acne relapse relates more closely to the duration of continuous sebaceous gland suppression rather than hitting an arbitrary milligram target.

So what should you do?

You treat until your skin is 100% clear, and then you continue the medication for exactly 2 more months.

Continuing for an extra 60 days after complete clearance ensures the sebaceous glands are shrunk and "reset," lowering the chance of a relapse.

Because you are using a low dose, hitting clearance + 2 months will naturally take longer. Expect a low-dose course to take 6 to 9+ months rather than the traditional 4 to 5 months.

Thanks for reading
"Thanks for reading"

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fair enough, like i said i wasnt gonna go into any of the basics like spf, moisturizing etc.

skin barrier health isnt something specific to accutane just basic skincare but i might make another guide at some point including it
its something i wish i knew a lot more about before i started accutane, i had really bad redness and flushing all the time and i didnt know why but now i fixed it and i got the right moisturiser and i spam it five times a day and even my lips dont get dry anymore and im on 40mg
 

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he was hypergamous, rich, mtn, avg height and still wanted to kill randoms for no reason, hes a faggot loser who shoulda just roped
 

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he was hypergamous, rich, mtn, avg height and still wanted to kill randoms for no reason, hes a faggot loser who shoulda just roped
hypERgamous
 

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its something i wish i knew a lot more about before i started accutane, i had really bad redness and flushing all the time and i didnt know why but now i fixed it and i got the right moisturiser and i spam it five times a day and even my lips dont get dry anymore and im on 40mg
tbh i think its a really personal thing, it took me ages and trying out a fuck ton of different products until i found what works for me
 

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he was hypergamous, rich, mtn, avg height and still wanted to kill randoms for no reason, hes a faggot loser who shoulda just roped
5'9 isnt avg height, you also missed part how he was extremly neuridivergent and bullied, how his parents divorce affected him, he wasnt hypergamous he just wanted love, learn the case before you talk about it.
 

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5'9 isnt avg height, you also missed part how he was extremly neuridivergent and bullied, how his parents divorce affected him, he wasnt hypergamous he just wanted love, learn the case before you talk about it.
dude he wanted people that were wayyyy out of his leauge

and even if he was sub 5 i wouldnt like him
 

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dude he wanted people that were wayyyy out of his leauge

and even if he was sub 5 i wouldnt like him
No he didn't, people in his league didn't see him as human, he was a poor (poor not by money) nd guy who was betried by this cruel world, that made him do whatever he did.
 

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How to minimize isotretinoin sides

The following content does not promote or condone any of the mentioned activities below, read at your own risk.

Isotretinoin 20mg/day with a meal containing a high amount of fat,
Desloratadine 5mg/day,
Omega-3 1g/day

Take until your skin is 100% clear and then continue taking it for 2 more months.

Introduction

Recently I've started isotretinoin and after my research compiled the following "stack" to minimize sides while maximizing the benefits. I wanted to write this guide since I haven't seen anything similar on any of the forums and partly outdated regiments are still being recommended.

Also I won't go into any of the basics like spf in this guide.

Traditionally, you would take 0.5 to 1.0mg/kg/day until you reach a cumulative dose target of 120–150mg per kg of your body weight. This frequently causes extreme dryness, joint pain, fatigue, and severe acne purges.

Modern studies strongly support a low-dose approach (typically 20mg/day fixed, or 0.25-0.4mg/kg/day). It yields comparable 24-week results to high doses but with much better patient satisfaction, meaning you won't feel as miserable during your course.

View attachment 53378
(https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22016276)

View attachment 53380
View attachment 53382
Group A is traditional dosage, group B is a low dose protocol. No significant difference in acne score change.

View attachment 53384
As mentioned before, a low dose protocol has significantly higher patient satisfaction due to lower sides.

View attachment 53385
As you can see here the rate of relapse (acne coming back after the course is finished) is not significantly higher in the low dose group compared to the traditional one, more on how we are going to minimize the chance of a relapse later.
(https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21114478/)

Okay so now we've established that a low dose protocol (20mg/day which typically comes out to 0.25-0.4mg/kg/day) mogs the traditional protocol (the exception is if you have severe acne, in that case a traditional dosage (0.5-1mg/kg/day) is probably still the way to go). Now let's get to the additional stuff to further reduce sides.
You are going to want to take Omega 3 daily. In this study they used soft gel capsules at 1g/day.

This is going to help stop your triglycerides/cholesterol from spiking, and it essentially hydrates you from the inside out, significantly reducing dry eyes, cracked lips, and nosebleeds.
When you start isotretinoin, your body triggers a massive histamine and inflammatory response, this is what causes the accutane purge and facial redness. In order to minimize this as much as possible we are going to be taking an antihistamine daily. You should use a second generation antihistamine such as desloratadine (5mg/day) which is what was used in this and most other studies.

As a bonus this even seems to speed up how fast your acne clears up.

View attachment 53409
Significant decrease in total lesion counts when using both isotretinoin and desloratadine compared to just isotret.

View attachment 53410
Occurence of flare-ups (purges) are significantly reduced.

View attachment 53411
Again, increased patient satisfaction.
(https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25081735/)
Traditionally people would use the Cumulative Dose Target as a dosing guide for isotretinoin. You would aim to reach a total ingested amount of 120–150 mg per kg of your body weight and then your course was considered finished.

Recent scientific consensus has shifted away from this. We now know that the risk of acne relapse relates more closely to the duration of continuous sebaceous gland suppression rather than hitting an arbitrary milligram target.

So what should you do?

You treat until your skin is 100% clear, and then you continue the medication for exactly 2 more months.

Continuing for an extra 60 days after complete clearance ensures the sebaceous glands are shrunk and "reset," lowering the chance of a relapse.

Because you are using a low dose, hitting clearance + 2 months will naturally take longer. Expect a low-dose course to take 6 to 9+ months rather than the traditional 4 to 5 months.

Thanks for reading
Antihistamine hack is so goated
 

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