Looksmax Honest opinion on my cycle plan (1 Viewer)

[Chrispy_Chud27]

Good morning to everyone reading this. I have a question and would like to get several different opinions. I'm 16 now, but will be 17 in less than two months. I've been training for three years, and since August 2025, I've had a bodybuilding coach who has helped me tremendously. I've wanted to use steroids for a while now, but I always knew it was too early. I recently had a massive bulk, gaining over 10 kg of pure muscle, and I'm currently in a cutting phase at around 10.5% body fat. I would start using steroids after the cut. Over the years, I've acquired a great deal of knowledge about everything in this area. I've also had everything checked and would do it again before starting, including blood work, a dexamethasone scan, and X-rays. In October 2025, I had an X-ray. The doctor said the joints in my leg were still nicely open. Six months later, I went to an endocrinologist, and he said I still had about 2% open, so there's still some room for growth. So now I'd like to hear your opinions. My cycle would be 200-250 mg of test e per week and 4 IU of HGH in the evening, simply because HGH has such good benefits, like better sleep and skin regeneration. I know that 4 IU won't cause growth, but I'm hoping it will improve my physique frame and facial features. I've already talked to many people at the gym, and they also said I'll look more aesthetically pleasing than a mass monster because my arms, shoulders, and back grow more easily, and my proportions are very good. I also have a very slim waist. In summary, what would you say? Is 17 too young? From a looks-maxing perspective, 15-16 would have been better, but from a bodybuilding perspective, 20 is enough cause right now i just want to look god like jeef or jon skywalker. I have the money I need monthly, and my parents pay for my food and living expenses, so that's not a problem, But if they find out, I'm completely screwed. I'll probably have to quit my coaching contract and won't be allowed to go to the gym for a while. But they said that at 18, they can't forbid anything anymore; they'd be sorry, but couldn't do anything about it. Thank you so much for reading so far, and I look forward to your honest opinions. Have a great rest of the weekend, and I hope you guys slay this summer!

 

[Hyporoxin]

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[Parsival]

Good morning to everyone reading this. I have a question and would like to get several different opinions. I'm 16 now, but will be 17 in less than two months. I've been training for three years, and since August 2025, I've had a bodybuilding coach who has helped me tremendously. I've wanted to use steroids for a while now, but I always knew it was too early. I recently had a massive bulk, gaining over 10 kg of pure muscle, and I'm currently in a cutting phase at around 10.5% body fat. I would start using steroids after the cut. Over the years, I've acquired a great deal of knowledge about everything in this area. I've also had everything checked and would do it again before starting, including blood work, a dexamethasone scan, and X-rays. In October 2025, I had an X-ray. The doctor said the joints in my leg were still nicely open. Six months later, I went to an endocrinologist, and he said I still had about 2% open, so there's still some room for growth. So now I'd like to hear your opinions. My cycle would be 200-250 mg of test e per week and 4 IU of HGH in the evening, simply because HGH has such good benefits, like better sleep and skin regeneration. I know that 4 IU won't cause growth, but I'm hoping it will improve my physique frame and facial features. I've already talked to many people at the gym, and they also said I'll look more aesthetically pleasing than a mass monster because my arms, shoulders, and back grow more easily, and my proportions are very good. I also have a very slim waist. In summary, what would you say? Is 17 too young? From a looks-maxing perspective, 15-16 would have been better, but from a bodybuilding perspective, 20 is enough cause right now i just want to look god like jeef or jon skywalker. I have the money I need monthly, and my parents pay for my food and living expenses, so that's not a problem, But if they find out, I'm completely screwed. I'll probably have to quit my coaching contract and won't be allowed to go to the gym for a while. But they said that at 18, they can't forbid anything anymore; they'd be sorry, but couldn't do anything about it. Thank you so much for reading so far, and I look forward to your honest opinions. Have a great rest of the weekend, and I hope you guys slay this summer!

I relate a lot to you, that cycle is perfect, I hope you can do it financially.
If others tell you that your first cycle should be stronger, don't listen to them. First, have a cycle like the one you have planned now and then mold it to suit you (from what you've said about your goal, it won't change much).

 

[dazbog]

I relate a lot to you, that cycle is perfect, I hope you can do it financially.
If others tell you that your first cycle should be stronger, don't listen to them. First, have a cycle like the one you have planned now and then mold it to suit you (from what you've said about your goal, it won't change much).

but surely you would want to capitalise on plates being stronger and do at least 500mg test e and more hgh
whats the point of waiting until plates close

 

[Chrispy_Chud27]

I relate a lot to you, that cycle is perfect, I hope you can do it financially.
If others tell you that your first cycle should be stronger, don't listen to them. First, have a cycle like the one you have planned now and then mold it to suit you (from what you've said about your goal, it won't change much).

thx alot yeah test is definitly no problem to buy and i would pay around 80-1 euro per ui i know i doesnt effect growth that much but it would definitly help for higher igf1 and all that stuff

 

[Chrispy_Chud27]

but surely you would want to capitalise on plates being stronger and do at least 500mg test e and more hgh
whats the point of waiting until plates close

serious why should i start higher ? theres no reason for it

 

[Parsival]

but surely you would want to capitalise on plates being stronger and do at least 500mg test e and more hgh
whats the point of waiting until plates close

That's not the way to think about it; I just replied to that earlier and I made a thread about it

 

[dazbog]

serious why should i start higher ? theres no reason for it

you are not young forever and i assumed you wanted to cycle for looksmaxxing reasons
if you are running it for body building thats fine

That's not the way to think about it; I just replied to that earlier and I made a thread about it

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yes theres no reason to run a gram
but the diminishing utility of returns wont be substantial till around 700mg
therefore there will be more benefits than negatives of upping it to 500mg
its popular for a reason cuz it works
but 350 still does give benefits i just feel like its worth doing a bit more at 17 when he starts the cycle

 

[Parsival]

you are not young forever and i assumed you wanted to cycle for looksmaxxing reasons
if you are running it for body building thats fine

yes theres no reason to run a gram
but the diminishing utility of returns wont be substantial till around 700mg
therefore there will be more benefits than negatives of upping it to 500mg
its popular for a reason cuz it works
but 350 still does give benefits i just feel like its worth doing a bit more at 17 when he starts the cycle

So, from what he says, the best thing is to go for 350 first. That's what I think. In general, all teenagers should go if they're starting a cycle.
Depending on each person's objective, the amount increases; in any case, you should take advantage of the sensitivity I mentioned and not waste it with 500.

 

[Chrispy_Chud27]

you are not young forever and i assumed you wanted to cycle for looksmaxxing reasons
if you are running it for body building thats fine

yes theres no reason to run a gram
but the diminishing utility of returns wont be substantial till around 700mg
therefore there will be more benefits than negatives of upping it to 500mg
its popular for a reason cuz it works
but 350 still does give benefits i just feel like its worth doing a bit more at 17 when he starts the cycle

ok i will think about that but even my coach startet with only 200 mg at 21 and made 60 kg in 2,5 years of course his cycle is higher now. but i dont wan to be bodybuilder i just wanna look good and maybe i get some bonemass i mean i dont really think that this cycle will give crazy progress in the face but later i want to experiment when i am 18 with high dose tren low test or 14- or higher iu of hgh

 

[dazbog]

So, from what he says, the best thing is to go for 350 first. That's what I think. In general, all teenagers should go if they're starting a cycle.
Depending on each person's objective, the amount increases; in any case, you should take advantage of the sensitivity I mentioned and not waste it with 500.

i still think 500mg would be more beneficial than 350 but i see your point
the hgh should be much higher tho especially since his plates are still open but not for long

 

[Parsival]

i still think 500mg would be more beneficial than 350 but i see your point
the hgh should be much higher tho especially since his plates are still open but not for long

I don't feel qualified enough to give an opinion on HGH, but if the professionals told him that dose is appropriate for his situation, there must be a reason.

 

[NA'Ropemaxxer]

Good morning to everyone reading this. I have a question and would like to get several different opinions. I'm 16 now, but will be 17 in less than two months. I've been training for three years, and since August 2025, I've had a bodybuilding coach who has helped me tremendously. I've wanted to use steroids for a while now, but I always knew it was too early. I recently had a massive bulk, gaining over 10 kg of pure muscle, and I'm currently in a cutting phase at around 10.5% body fat. I would start using steroids after the cut. Over the years, I've acquired a great deal of knowledge about everything in this area. I've also had everything checked and would do it again before starting, including blood work, a dexamethasone scan, and X-rays. In October 2025, I had an X-ray. The doctor said the joints in my leg were still nicely open. Six months later, I went to an endocrinologist, and he said I still had about 2% open, so there's still some room for growth. So now I'd like to hear your opinions. My cycle would be 200-250 mg of test e per week and 4 IU of HGH in the evening, simply because HGH has such good benefits, like better sleep and skin regeneration. I know that 4 IU won't cause growth, but I'm hoping it will improve my physique frame and facial features. I've already talked to many people at the gym, and they also said I'll look more aesthetically pleasing than a mass monster because my arms, shoulders, and back grow more easily, and my proportions are very good. I also have a very slim waist. In summary, what would you say? Is 17 too young? From a looks-maxing perspective, 15-16 would have been better, but from a bodybuilding perspective, 20 is enough cause right now i just want to look god like jeef or jon skywalker. I have the money I need monthly, and my parents pay for my food and living expenses, so that's not a problem, But if they find out, I'm completely screwed. I'll probably have to quit my coaching contract and won't be allowed to go to the gym for a while. But they said that at 18, they can't forbid anything anymore; they'd be sorry, but couldn't do anything about it. Thank you so much for reading so far, and I look forward to your honest opinions. Have a great rest of the weekend, and I hope you guys slay this summer!

how about u cycle this DNR