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I will never understand why people love recommending this Fuck ass ARB 😂:

:cagerage:


Telmisartan:

Is a drug people on PED take to stay healthy and make sure there blood pressure does not get as high and some even use it as a debloat mechanism:

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Reasons why people love it and why people are recommending:

} Blood pressure reduction

} Reduced cardiac after load

} Improves insulin sensitivity

} Anti Inflammatory

} Debloating on Roids



Your probably asking "Nardicus, those seem like really good benefit's, why shouldn't we keep taking this than"

Reasons:

Doesnt block aldosterone even mildly, which contributes to bloat heavily on gear !!!

The insulin sensitivity benefits are comically minuscule at best JFL, no where near the level of a GLP-1 like reta or being sub 12% body fat


There are so many ARB's that can decrease blood pressure just as effectively if not even more effectively than this shit

Using it as a debloater on roids will often leave you disappointed especially on heavy cycle's if your not a pussy.



So than what do we take than ????????

This is where these 3 bad boy's come in:

Eplerenone:​

Screenshot 2026-01-10 at 1.42.08 AM.png
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Valsartan:​

Screenshot 2026-01-10 at 1.43.18 AM.png
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GLP-1 (Reta):​

Screenshot 2026-01-10 at 2.17.25 AM.png
Screenshot 2026-01-10 at 1.47.24 AM.png



Where Gaymisartan fails at doing:

} Does not block mineralocorticoid receptors

}Does not directly suppress aldosterone.

}Does not prevent aldosterone escape
Screenshot 2026-01-10 at 1.54.55 AM.png
Screenshot 2026-01-10 at 1.56.39 AM.png

Which are all responsible for bloat and looking like puffer fish 😂,


Why you should do this combo instead if you are someone cares about being healthy without having HBP n being less Bloated:

Reta is going to do a far better job than temi at making you more insulin sensitive to the point telmi looks like a fucking meme

Valsartan is another ARB the lower's BP and also acts on Angiotensin II which telmi failed to act on as well which is also responsible for bloating

Eplerenone also lowers BP and blocks sodium retention to way better degree thus leading to a debloat far better than telmi, and when combined with val at moderate doses, your not over lowering your BP.

Using both:

} Prevents aldosterone escape

} Improves LVH prevention

} Improves debloating

} Improves
cardiac remodeling


The end result:

Screenshot 2026-01-10 at 2.11.04 AM.png



TDLR; take low to moderate dose Elperenone + Valsartan + Reta, if you want the same benefits as Temi with more monger look while on Roids !!!


Thank you
 

BastiHgH

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I will never understand why people love recommending this Fuck ass ARB 😂:

:cagerage:


Telmisartan:

Is a drug people on PED take to stay healthy and make sure there blood pressure does not get as high and some even use it as a debloat mechanism:

View attachment 20365 View attachment 20371


Reasons why people love it and why people are recommending:

} Blood pressure reduction

} Reduced cardiac after load

} Improves insulin sensitivity

} Anti Inflammatory

} Debloating on Roids



Your probably asking "Nardicus, those seem like really good benefit's, why shouldn't we keep taking this than"

Reasons:

Doesnt block aldosterone even mildly, which contributes to bloat heavily on gear !!!

The insulin sensitivity benefits are comically minuscule at best JFL, no where near the level of a GLP-1 like reta or being sub 12% body fat


There are so many ARB's that can decrease blood pressure just as effectively if not even more effectively than this shit

Using it as a debloater on roids will often leave you disappointed especially on heavy cycle's if your not a pussy.



So than what do we take than ????????

This is where these 3 bad boy's come in:

Eplerenone:​

View attachment 20372View attachment 20374

Valsartan:​

View attachment 20373View attachment 20375

GLP-1 (Reta):​

View attachment 20392 View attachment 20377


Where Gaymisartan fails at doing:

} Does not block mineralocorticoid receptors

}Does not directly suppress aldosterone.

}Does not prevent aldosterone escape
View attachment 20378 View attachment 20379

Which are all responsible for bloat and looking like puffer fish 😂,


Why you should do this combo instead if you are someone cares about being healthy without having HBP n being less Bloated:

Reta is going to do a far better job than temi at making you more insulin sensitive to the point telmi looks like a fucking meme

Valsartan is another ARB the lower's BP and also acts on Angiotensin II which telmi failed to act on as well which is also responsible for bloating

Eplerenone also lowers BP and blocks sodium retention to way better degree thus leading to a debloat far better than telmi, and when combined with val at moderate doses, your not over lowering your BP.

Using both:

} Prevents aldosterone escape

} Improves LVH prevention

} Improves debloating

} Improves
cardiac remodeling


The end result:

View attachment 20384



TDLR; take low to moderate dose Elperenone + Valsartan + Reta, if you want the same benefits as Temi with more monger look while on Roids !!!


Thank you
Good
 

birthdefect

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I will never understand why people love recommending this Fuck ass ARB 😂:

:cagerage:


Telmisartan:

Is a drug people on PED take to stay healthy and make sure there blood pressure does not get as high and some even use it as a debloat mechanism:

View attachment 20365 View attachment 20371


Reasons why people love it and why people are recommending:

} Blood pressure reduction

} Reduced cardiac after load

} Improves insulin sensitivity

} Anti Inflammatory

} Debloating on Roids



Your probably asking "Nardicus, those seem like really good benefit's, why shouldn't we keep taking this than"

Reasons:

Doesnt block aldosterone even mildly, which contributes to bloat heavily on gear !!!

The insulin sensitivity benefits are comically minuscule at best JFL, no where near the level of a GLP-1 like reta or being sub 12% body fat


There are so many ARB's that can decrease blood pressure just as effectively if not even more effectively than this shit

Using it as a debloater on roids will often leave you disappointed especially on heavy cycle's if your not a pussy.



So than what do we take than ????????

This is where these 3 bad boy's come in:

Eplerenone:​

View attachment 20372View attachment 20374

Valsartan:​

View attachment 20373View attachment 20375

GLP-1 (Reta):​

View attachment 20392 View attachment 20377


Where Gaymisartan fails at doing:

} Does not block mineralocorticoid receptors

}Does not directly suppress aldosterone.

}Does not prevent aldosterone escape
View attachment 20378 View attachment 20379

Which are all responsible for bloat and looking like puffer fish 😂,


Why you should do this combo instead if you are someone cares about being healthy without having HBP n being less Bloated:

Reta is going to do a far better job than temi at making you more insulin sensitive to the point telmi looks like a fucking meme

Valsartan is another ARB the lower's BP and also acts on Angiotensin II which telmi failed to act on as well which is also responsible for bloating

Eplerenone also lowers BP and blocks sodium retention to way better degree thus leading to a debloat far better than telmi, and when combined with val at moderate doses, your not over lowering your BP.

Using both:

} Prevents aldosterone escape

} Improves LVH prevention

} Improves debloating

} Improves
cardiac remodeling


The end result:

View attachment 20384



TDLR; take low to moderate dose Elperenone + Valsartan + Reta, if you want the same benefits as Temi with more monger look while on Roids !!!


Thank you
w thread, i wonder when people are gonna start incorporating bam15 and/or dnp more often
 
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w thread, i wonder when people are gonna start incorporating bam15 and/or dnp more often
Yea there not bad at all, tho I wouldn't recommend them to the average Roider unless competing since people fuck the doses up on them quite often. Bam15 is suppose to be a less scary version of DNP but both cause heavy oxidative stress n hard to quantify by how much since not alot of research on humans regarding Ban15,

Will be open to using in the future tho once I understand the mechanisms far better but dont really wanna turn into a sweat fest JFL
 

birthdefect

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Yea there not bad at all, tho I wouldn't recommend them to the average Roider unless competing since people fuck the doses up on them quite often. Bam15 is suppose to be a less scary version of DNP but both cause heavy oxidative stress n hard to quantify by how much since not alot of research on humans regarding Ban15,

Will be open to using in the future tho once I understand the mechanisms far better but dont really wanna turn into a sweat fest JFL
bam15 is a potent antioxidant, and if dumb enough people will fuck the dose on anything

later on in the year i will run bam15 and document everything to contribute to the whole "ecosystem"
 

Mirinzygos

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I will never understand why people love recommending this Fuck ass ARB 😂:

:cagerage:


Telmisartan:

Is a drug people on PED take to stay healthy and make sure there blood pressure does not get as high and some even use it as a debloat mechanism:

View attachment 20365 View attachment 20371


Reasons why people love it and why people are recommending:

} Blood pressure reduction

} Reduced cardiac after load

} Improves insulin sensitivity

} Anti Inflammatory

} Debloating on Roids



Your probably asking "Nardicus, those seem like really good benefit's, why shouldn't we keep taking this than"

Reasons:

Doesnt block aldosterone even mildly, which contributes to bloat heavily on gear !!!

The insulin sensitivity benefits are comically minuscule at best JFL, no where near the level of a GLP-1 like reta or being sub 12% body fat


There are so many ARB's that can decrease blood pressure just as effectively if not even more effectively than this shit

Using it as a debloater on roids will often leave you disappointed especially on heavy cycle's if your not a pussy.



So than what do we take than ????????

This is where these 3 bad boy's come in:

Eplerenone:​

View attachment 20372View attachment 20374

Valsartan:​

View attachment 20373View attachment 20375

GLP-1 (Reta):​

View attachment 20392 View attachment 20377


Where Gaymisartan fails at doing:

} Does not block mineralocorticoid receptors

}Does not directly suppress aldosterone.

}Does not prevent aldosterone escape
View attachment 20378 View attachment 20379

Which are all responsible for bloat and looking like puffer fish 😂,


Why you should do this combo instead if you are someone cares about being healthy without having HBP n being less Bloated:

Reta is going to do a far better job than temi at making you more insulin sensitive to the point telmi looks like a fucking meme

Valsartan is another ARB the lower's BP and also acts on Angiotensin II which telmi failed to act on as well which is also responsible for bloating

Eplerenone also lowers BP and blocks sodium retention to way better degree thus leading to a debloat far better than telmi, and when combined with val at moderate doses, your not over lowering your BP.

Using both:

} Prevents aldosterone escape

} Improves LVH prevention

} Improves debloating

} Improves
cardiac remodeling


The end result:

View attachment 20384



TDLR; take low to moderate dose Elperenone + Valsartan + Reta, if you want the same benefits as Temi with more monger look while on Roids !!!


Thank you
Great thread bro
 

Biomaxx

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I will never understand why people love recommending this Fuck ass ARB 😂:

:cagerage:


Telmisartan:

Is a drug people on PED take to stay healthy and make sure there blood pressure does not get as high and some even use it as a debloat mechanism:

View attachment 20365 View attachment 20371


Reasons why people love it and why people are recommending:

} Blood pressure reduction

} Reduced cardiac after load

} Improves insulin sensitivity

} Anti Inflammatory

} Debloating on Roids



Your probably asking "Nardicus, those seem like really good benefit's, why shouldn't we keep taking this than"

Reasons:

Doesnt block aldosterone even mildly, which contributes to bloat heavily on gear !!!

The insulin sensitivity benefits are comically minuscule at best JFL, no where near the level of a GLP-1 like reta or being sub 12% body fat


There are so many ARB's that can decrease blood pressure just as effectively if not even more effectively than this shit

Using it as a debloater on roids will often leave you disappointed especially on heavy cycle's if your not a pussy.



So than what do we take than ????????

This is where these 3 bad boy's come in:

Eplerenone:​

View attachment 20372View attachment 20374

Valsartan:​

View attachment 20373View attachment 20375

GLP-1 (Reta):​

View attachment 20392 View attachment 20377


Where Gaymisartan fails at doing:

} Does not block mineralocorticoid receptors

}Does not directly suppress aldosterone.

}Does not prevent aldosterone escape
View attachment 20378 View attachment 20379

Which are all responsible for bloat and looking like puffer fish 😂,


Why you should do this combo instead if you are someone cares about being healthy without having HBP n being less Bloated:

Reta is going to do a far better job than temi at making you more insulin sensitive to the point telmi looks like a fucking meme

Valsartan is another ARB the lower's BP and also acts on Angiotensin II which telmi failed to act on as well which is also responsible for bloating

Eplerenone also lowers BP and blocks sodium retention to way better degree thus leading to a debloat far better than telmi, and when combined with val at moderate doses, your not over lowering your BP.

Using both:

} Prevents aldosterone escape

} Improves LVH prevention

} Improves debloating

} Improves
cardiac remodeling


The end result:

View attachment 20384



TDLR; take low to moderate dose Elperenone + Valsartan + Reta, if you want the same benefits as Temi with more monger look while on Roids !!!


Thank you
I like it and agree but people take telm bc its cheap and easy to get. Yet to see val anywhere but I havent rlly been looking so if u know anywhere good tell me please. Good thread
 
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I will never understand why people love recommending this Fuck ass ARB 😂:

:cagerage:


Telmisartan:

Is a drug people on PED take to stay healthy and make sure there blood pressure does not get as high and some even use it as a debloat mechanism:

View attachment 20365 View attachment 20371


Reasons why people love it and why people are recommending:

} Blood pressure reduction

} Reduced cardiac after load

} Improves insulin sensitivity

} Anti Inflammatory

} Debloating on Roids



Your probably asking "Nardicus, those seem like really good benefit's, why shouldn't we keep taking this than"

Reasons:

Doesnt block aldosterone even mildly, which contributes to bloat heavily on gear !!!

The insulin sensitivity benefits are comically minuscule at best JFL, no where near the level of a GLP-1 like reta or being sub 12% body fat


There are so many ARB's that can decrease blood pressure just as effectively if not even more effectively than this shit

Using it as a debloater on roids will often leave you disappointed especially on heavy cycle's if your not a pussy.



So than what do we take than ????????

This is where these 3 bad boy's come in:

Eplerenone:​

View attachment 20372View attachment 20374

Valsartan:​

View attachment 20373View attachment 20375

GLP-1 (Reta):​

View attachment 20392 View attachment 20377


Where Gaymisartan fails at doing:

} Does not block mineralocorticoid receptors

}Does not directly suppress aldosterone.

}Does not prevent aldosterone escape
View attachment 20378 View attachment 20379

Which are all responsible for bloat and looking like puffer fish 😂,


Why you should do this combo instead if you are someone cares about being healthy without having HBP n being less Bloated:

Reta is going to do a far better job than temi at making you more insulin sensitive to the point telmi looks like a fucking meme

Valsartan is another ARB the lower's BP and also acts on Angiotensin II which telmi failed to act on as well which is also responsible for bloating

Eplerenone also lowers BP and blocks sodium retention to way better degree thus leading to a debloat far better than telmi, and when combined with val at moderate doses, your not over lowering your BP.

Using both:

} Prevents aldosterone escape

} Improves LVH prevention

} Improves debloating

} Improves
cardiac remodeling


The end result:

View attachment 20384



TDLR; take low to moderate dose Elperenone + Valsartan + Reta, if you want the same benefits as Temi with more monger look while on Roids !!!


Thank you
i swear this is just completely false, they do the exact same thing, both block the angiotensin 2 from acting on at1
 
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i swear this is just completely false, they do the exact same thing, both block the angiotensin 2 from acting on at1
Telmi isn’t necessarily bad, rather if your hopping on roids the whole point is to look better n be healthy, Valsartan is just much better option when combine with Eplerenone due to the fact Val does what an ARB is suppose to do without adding extra complexity that leads to no benifits IRL, you here all the benifits of Telmi besides BP but there modest at best. And Telmi + Eple makes extra signaling that could possibly interfere with Eple, . Val + Epl just work far better synergistically if you want a more leaner look while being healthy as your main priority without sacrificing health to get there.


Example:
Let’s say your running 350 Test:

And your someone who bloats on roids due to E2 being elevated, but you naturally and mentally feel good when E2 is a bit higher end (42). And you don’t to crash it just look leaner cause than you will feel like shit.

This where this combo shines:

20-40MG of Valsartan + 12.5mg Eplerenone

Is going to do be far better than 40mg of Telmisartan in this scenario.

You would be surprised how many people take more Telmi or Ai just to feel less bloated and ends up back firing hard. Val is also more forgiving as a ARB as well.

TDLR;
A lower-dose valsartan + low-dose eplerenone combo can achieve similar BP readings while providing additional volume control and remodeling benefits that telmisartan alone cannot.


That was the point of the thread
 
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I like it and agree but people take telm bc it’s cheap and easy to get. Yet to see val anywhere but I havent rlly been looking so if u know anywhere good tell me please. Good thread
All day chemist or PCT.zone is usually where most roider’s get there ancillaries.

Do your research tho not advertising at all
 
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