Theory Fasted cardio mogs Reta (HighIQ) (1 Viewer)

[AssMan]

I know you lazy bones hate to see this coming but I think daily fasted cardio mogs Reta to oblivion in net body composition outcomes

Ofcorse you can do both, and I am, but if I had to choose only one I would choose the fasted cardio daily. Main reasons being that fasted cardio improves insulin sensitivity significantly and doesn’t hinder appetite. Also most people on this forum I’ve seen wouldn’t hurt to put on some more muscle mass before getting shredded so they have something to show, there’s no reason to be pealed with a starter build it’s not impressive girls just think you have an eating disorder

So pretty much you can still have the main benefits of Reta (insulin sensitivity) and also sum appetite suppression if you use caffeine or yohimbine with cardio. Those will wear off by the afternoon where you can eat as many carbs as you can use for the lift, far more than you otherwise could on Reta, you just don’t like to hear it because it means building a mogger physique is less passive than inject this and don’t do anything else

As for the cardio you should do, it is 30min to 1 hour zone 2 cardio. This is low intensity steady state

 

[bluesell]

Mirin . hi hippocamp

 

[AssMan]

Mirin hard. hi hippocamp

Thank youu

 

[12455]

I know you lazy bones hate to see this coming but I think daily fasted cardio mogs Reta to oblivion in net body composition outcomes

Ofcorse you can do both, and I am, but if I had to choose only one I would choose the fasted cardio daily. Main reasons being that fasted cardio improves insulin sensitivity significantly and doesn’t hinder appetite. Also most people on this forum I’ve seen wouldn’t hurt to put on some more muscle mass before getting shredded so they have something to show, there’s no reason to be pealed with a starter build it’s not impressive girls just think you have an eating disorder

So pretty much you can still have the main benefits of Reta (insulin sensitivity) and also sum appetite suppression if you use caffeine or yohimbine with cardio. Those will wear off by the afternoon where you can eat as many carbs as you can use for the lift, far more than you otherwise could on Reta, you just don’t like to hear it because it means building a mogger physique is less passive than inject this and don’t do anything else

mirin
can i finger ur ass

 

[mirincristian]

genuinely one of the most informative users on the forum

 

[hippocamp]

I know you lazy bones hate to see this coming but I think daily fasted cardio mogs Reta to oblivion in net body composition outcomes

Ofcorse you can do both, and I am, but if I had to choose only one I would choose the fasted cardio daily. Main reasons being that fasted cardio improves insulin sensitivity significantly and doesn’t hinder appetite. Also most people on this forum I’ve seen wouldn’t hurt to put on some more muscle mass before getting shredded so they have something to show, there’s no reason to be pealed with a starter build it’s not impressive girls just think you have an eating disorder

So pretty much you can still have the main benefits of Reta (insulin sensitivity) and also sum appetite suppression if you use caffeine or yohimbine with cardio. Those will wear off by the afternoon where you can eat as many carbs as you can use for the lift, far more than you otherwise could on Reta, you just don’t like to hear it because it means building a mogger physique is less passive than inject this and don’t do anything else

"Appetite suppression wears off by afternoon"

this is actually the problem for many people. GLP-1s reduce overall caloric drive all day, which is the whole mechanism. Caffeine giving you a 3-hour window isn't equivalent

 

[hippocamp]

Mirin . hi hippocamp

Hii... Lol

 

[paracelsus]

fasted sex mogs fasted cardio (high iq)

 

[useless_neurodivergent]

I know you lazy bones hate to see this coming but I think daily fasted cardio mogs Reta to oblivion in net body composition outcomes

Ofcorse you can do both, and I am, but if I had to choose only one I would choose the fasted cardio daily. Main reasons being that fasted cardio improves insulin sensitivity significantly and doesn’t hinder appetite. Also most people on this forum I’ve seen wouldn’t hurt to put on some more muscle mass before getting shredded so they have something to show, there’s no reason to be pealed with a starter build it’s not impressive girls just think you have an eating disorder

So pretty much you can still have the main benefits of Reta (insulin sensitivity) and also sum appetite suppression if you use caffeine or yohimbine with cardio. Those will wear off by the afternoon where you can eat as many carbs as you can use for the lift, far more than you otherwise could on Reta, you just don’t like to hear it because it means building a mogger physique is less passive than inject this and don’t do anything else

As for the cardio you should do, it is 30min to 1 hour zone 2 cardio. This is low intensity steady state

Idk starves moggs the 2 and 30k steps daily

 

[AssMan]

"Appetite suppression wears off by afternoon"

this is actually the problem for many people. GLP-1s reduce overall caloric drive all day, which is the whole mechanism. Caffeine giving you a 3-hour window isn't equivalent

I see this as an upside, you need calories to grow

And this results in having appetite conveniently timed around when you need to eat significant preworkout carbs, not around the clock

 

[AssMan]

genuinely one of the most informative users on the forum

Doing my best thanks g

 

[AssMan]

Idk starves moggs the 2 and 30k steps daily

Atrophy

 

[useless_neurodivergent]

Atrophy

The best for being a femboy and free skins on videogames

 

[useless_neurodivergent]

Atrophy

But what ABT the free 2k€ skins on CS

 

[hippocamp]

I see this as an upside, you need calories to grow

And this results in having appetite conveniently timed around when you need to eat significant preworkout carbs, not around the clock

Kinda yea you're right

 

[useless_neurodivergent]

ok now im serious if im in a bulk can i still do fasted cardio?

 

[useless_neurodivergent]

i did fasted cardio in my agressive definition
it worked perfecty with 15k steps
dropped 40kg aprox or more

 

[mirincristian]

ok now im serious if im in a bulk can i still do fasted cardio?

it won’t kill gains if u keep it moderate and eat enough overall

 

[useless_neurodivergent]

it won’t kill gains if u keep it moderate and eat enough overall

2700cals with 12k steps but aint doing fasted cardio

 

[mirincristian]

2700cals with 12k steps but aint doing fasted cardio

yea that’s solid, you’re not overdoing it

 

[AssMan]

2700cals with 12k steps but aint doing fasted cardio

Steps don’t mean shit.. they count when I goon

 

[useless_neurodivergent]

Steps don’t mean shit.. they count when I goon

ig bro

 

[AssMan]

ig bro

And he heart rate is never above 100 doing normal steps, never entering zone 2

 

[useless_neurodivergent]

And he heart rate is never above 100 doing normal steps, never entering zone 2

6,8km for 30 mins?
i mean the speed

 

[AssMan]

6,8km for 30 mins?

Yes reasonable

 

[useless_neurodivergent]

That’s not normal steps bro that’s cardio

yea i mean for fasted cardio bro

 

[AssMan]

6,8km for 30 mins?

yea i mean for fasted cardio bro

Little incline is always good too, I like 3mph and 12% incline for 30min or recumbent bike or road bike

 

[useless_neurodivergent]

Yes reasonable

ok thx you imma do that

 

[AssMan]

ok thx you imma do that

Ofc bro best of luck, starting can be hard so you can start 20min for the first few days if you need

 

[useless_neurodivergent]

when im finishing school and getting a job for roids holyyy dream summer

 

[useless_neurodivergent]

Ofc bro best of luck, starting can be hard so you can start 20min for the first few days if you need

im ok with cardio i dont hate it

 

[AssMan]

when im finishing school and getting a job for roids holyyy dream summer

Or u could blast Chinese gear with pocket change

 

[useless_neurodivergent]

Or u could blast Chinese gear with pocket change

i dont need a job i can get a pay of 400€ this summer for being retarded

 

[Nardicus]

I know you lazy bones hate to see this coming but I think daily fasted cardio mogs Reta to oblivion in net body composition outcomes

Ofcorse you can do both, and I am, but if I had to choose only one I would choose the fasted cardio daily. Main reasons being that fasted cardio improves insulin sensitivity significantly and doesn’t hinder appetite. Also most people on this forum I’ve seen wouldn’t hurt to put on some more muscle mass before getting shredded so they have something to show, there’s no reason to be pealed with a starter build it’s not impressive girls just think you have an eating disorder

So pretty much you can still have the main benefits of Reta (insulin sensitivity) and also sum appetite suppression if you use caffeine or yohimbine with cardio. Those will wear off by the afternoon where you can eat as many carbs as you can use for the lift, far more than you otherwise could on Reta, you just don’t like to hear it because it means building a mogger physique is less passive than inject this and don’t do anything else

As for the cardio you should do, it is 30min to 1 hour zone 2 cardio. This is low intensity steady state

But you would get all these benifits on fed cardio theoretically
There so science proving one is better than the other

I do fasted cardio here n there as well, but its mostly due to schedule rather than actual benifits of doing it tbh

 

[Circadex]

I know you lazy bones hate to see this coming but I think daily fasted cardio mogs Reta to oblivion in net body composition outcomes

Ofcorse you can do both, and I am, but if I had to choose only one I would choose the fasted cardio daily. Main reasons being that fasted cardio improves insulin sensitivity significantly and doesn’t hinder appetite. Also most people on this forum I’ve seen wouldn’t hurt to put on some more muscle mass before getting shredded so they have something to show, there’s no reason to be pealed with a starter build it’s not impressive girls just think you have an eating disorder

So pretty much you can still have the main benefits of Reta (insulin sensitivity) and also sum appetite suppression if you use caffeine or yohimbine with cardio. Those will wear off by the afternoon where you can eat as many carbs as you can use for the lift, far more than you otherwise could on Reta, you just don’t like to hear it because it means building a mogger physique is less passive than inject this and don’t do anything else

As for the cardio you should do, it is 30min to 1 hour zone 2 cardio. This is low intensity steady state

No

 

[AssMan]

But you would get all these benifits on fed cardio theoretically
There so science proving one is better than the other

I do fasted cardio here n there as well, but its mostly due to schedule rather than actual benifits of doing it tbh

i wounder where these links came from if there's no studies proving it in existence, don't speak unless you can back it up

Systematic Review & Meta-Analysis — Fasted vs Fed Aerobic Exercise
“Effects of aerobic exercise performed in fasted v. fed state on fat and carbohydrate metabolism in adults”
PubMed study link

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Fasted Training Improved Insulin Sensitivity & GLUT4
“Training in the fasted state improves glucose tolerance during fat-rich diet”
PubMed study link

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Fat Oxidation Associated With Better Insulin Sensitivity
Goodpaster et al. — Diabetes Journal discussion
Medscape summary/article

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2025 Meta-Analysis on Fasted vs Fed Exercise
“The effects of acute bouts of exercise in fasted vs. fed states on glucose and lipid metabolism”
PubMed study link

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British Journal of Nutrition Review on Fasted Cardio
Includes discussion of post-exercise fat oxidation and metabolic adaptations
Cambridge journal article

also if you're using dnp and clen and talking about "there's no research for fasted cardio" ur opinion is worth none anyways i shouldn't have wasted my time linking these

fuck off

 

[AssMan]

No

why not?

 

[Iblamegestationaldiabetes]

ok now im serious if im in a bulk can i still do fasted cardio?

Why on earth are you buying

 

[Circadex]

why not?

Nothing that requires effort is better

 

[useless_neurodivergent]

Why on earth are you buying

español papi

 

[AssMan]

Nothing that requires effort is better

Such a cringe mentality

 

[Circadex]

Such a cringe mentality

Efficiency > discipline. Or do you never use cars?

 

[nineteen]

Efficiency > discipline. Or do you never use cars?

 

[Circadex]

View attachment 51838

You're so boring, uninteresting jester

 

[nineteen]

You're so boring, uninteresting jester

hop off my dick lil bro

 

[Nardicus]

Systematic Review & Meta-Analysis — Fasted vs Fed Aerobic Exercise
“Effects of aerobic exercise performed in fasted v. fed state on fat and carbohydrate metabolism in adults”
PubMed study link

This measured Fat oxidation, which Fasted had more fat oxidation but overtime it makes hardly a molecule of a difference cause the body will just compensate later on within the day via other energy sources.

Fasted Training Improved Insulin Sensitivity & GLUT4
“Training in the fasted state improves glucose tolerance during fat-rich diet”
PubMed study link

Fed Cardio B Group:

Lets measure via Area Under Curve:

Pre run:
AUC = 30 × (6.0 + 2×38.2 + 22.3) = 3141

Post run:
AUC = 30 x(4.9 +2x2.79 +26.6) = 2619

(3141 - 2619) / 3141 = 16.6% improvement


Fasted Cardio C Groups:

Pre Run:
30 × (5.7 + 2×51.5 + 26.2) = 4047

Post Run:
30 × (5.1 + 2×40.7 + 21.9) = 3252

(4047 - 3252) / 4047 = 19.6% Improvment

Meaning there only a fucking 3% difference in fasted vs fed cardio in terms of improving insulin sensitivity.
This doesnt even factor in the fact that the fasted group was lower in insulin response(They started at 51.5 pre run) thus making the difference even smaller. Since fasted had the edge in lower insulin response they had more room to improve so its closer to like 1.5-2% fucking difference in reality

"Muh Mogs Reta"

 

[Nardicus]

Fat Oxidation Associated With Better Insulin Sensitivity
Goodpaster et al. — Diabetes Journal discussion
Medscape summary/article

---

2025 Meta-Analysis on Fasted vs Fed Exercise
“The effects of acute bouts of exercise in fasted vs. fed states on glucose and lipid metabolism”
PubMed study link

---

British Journal of Nutrition Review on Fasted Cardio
Includes discussion of post-exercise fat oxidation and metabolic adaptations
Cambridge journal article

also if you're using dnp and clen and talking about "there's no research for fasted cardio" ur opinion is worth none anyways i shouldn't have wasted my time linking these

fuck off

Ill read the other studies when I have time

But just quick question ?
Are you even good at math ?
Do you know how to read graphs ?

and Did you even read the studies you linked ?

 

[Circadex]

This measured Fat oxidation, which Fasted had more fat oxidation but overtime it makes hardly a molecule of a difference cause the body will just compensate later on within the day via other energy sources.


Fed Cardio B Group:
View attachment 51848
Lets measure via Area Under Curve:

Pre run:
AUC = 30 × (6.0 + 2×38.2 + 22.3) = 3141

Post run:
AUC = 30 x(4.9 +2x2.79 +26.6) = 2619

(3141 - 2619) / 3141 = 16.6% improvement


Fasted Cardio C Groups:
View attachment 51853
Pre Run:
30 × (5.7 + 2×51.5 + 26.2) = 4047

Post Run:
30 × (5.1 + 2×40.7 + 21.9) = 3252

(4047 - 3252) / 4047 = 19.6% Improvment

Meaning there only a fucking 3% difference in fasted vs fed cardio in terms of improving insulin sensitivity.
This doesnt even factor in the fact that the fasted group was lower in insulin response(They started at 51.5 pre run) thus making the difference even smaller. Since fasted had the edge in lower insulin response they had more room to improve so its closer to like 1.5-2% fucking difference in reality

"Muh Mogs Reta"

My retard skepticism from yesterday is gone now, mirin effort

 

[AssMan]

This measured Fat oxidation, which Fasted had more fat oxidation but overtime it makes hardly a molecule of a difference cause the body will just compensate later on within the day via other energy sources.


Fed Cardio B Group:
View attachment 51848
Lets measure via Area Under Curve:

Pre run:
AUC = 30 × (6.0 + 2×38.2 + 22.3) = 3141

Post run:
AUC = 30 x(4.9 +2x2.79 +26.6) = 2619

(3141 - 2619) / 3141 = 16.6% improvement


Fasted Cardio C Groups:
View attachment 51853
Pre Run:
30 × (5.7 + 2×51.5 + 26.2) = 4047

Post Run:
30 × (5.1 + 2×40.7 + 21.9) = 3252

(4047 - 3252) / 4047 = 19.6% Improvment

Meaning there only a fucking 3% difference in fasted vs fed cardio in terms of improving insulin sensitivity.
This doesnt even factor in the fact that the fasted group was lower in insulin response(They started at 51.5 pre run) thus making the difference even smaller. Since fasted had the edge in lower insulin response they had more room to improve so its closer to like 1.5-2% fucking difference in reality

"Muh Mogs Reta"

in your genius, you must’ve forgot how fasted versus fed does not have any association with how it compares to Reta, totally separate issue on which you’re also wrong, and if it weren’t for @Circadex nobody would agree with you

At the end of the day I have managed to net a far more impressive outcome than you on far less drugs and for that reason you should LDAR

 

[Circadex]

in your genius, you must’ve forgot how fasted versus fed does not have any association with how it compares to Reta, totally separate issue on which you’re also wrong, and if it weren’t for @Circadex nobody would agree with you

At the end of the day I have managed to net a far more impressive outcome than you on far less drugs and for that reason you should LDAR

Congratulations you're putting in more effort for worse results than if you took reta, no reason not to take it unless you're poor or stupid