Bro seriously read it. I think some of it refutes what you said especially about hueter’s law. You claimed that hueters law directly counters LSJL because compressive force = lesser growth yet studies quite clearly show that LSJL promotes height growth, especially in rats because their growth plate is open. While I am doubting the nature of LSJL in regards to closed plate cels, I think for open plate cels it can work
This is just bone remodeling.
How short are you that you care this much?Lateral Synovial Joint Loading (LSJL) has the potential to reopen growth plates byutilizing mechanical stimuli to trigger biological responses in the skeletal system. Tounderstand how LSJL works, we can examine studies that explore the effect ofmechanical loading on cartilage and bone, highlighting the signaling pathways andcellular activities involved.Mechanical Loading and Piezo1 ActivationOne key pathway activated by mechanical loading is the Piezo1 mechanoreceptor, whichis sensitive to changes in fluid shear stress and mechanical deformation. A study by Li etal. (2014) investigated the role of Piezo1 in bone mechanotransduction. The researchersfound that when mechanical forces were applied to bone, Piezo1 receptors wereactivated, leading to increased calcium influx into osteocytes. This influx of calcium iscritical for initiating cellular responses such as the upregulation of growth factors likeIGF-1 and the activation of downstream signaling pathways related to bone remodelingand cartilage formation.When LSJL applies targeted mechanical stress to joints, it induces a similar effect,activating Piezo1 receptors in the bone and surrounding cartilage. This, in turn, sets off acascade of biochemical events that mimic the conditions of active growth plates. Themechanical stress and fluid flow through the bone stimulate osteocytes and other cells toproduce extracellular matrix proteins and growth factors that encourage cartilagegrowth—an essential step in the potential reopening of growth plates.Stem Cell Recruitment and ChondrogenesisAnother essential aspect of LSJL's mechanism is the activation of mesenchymal stemcells (MSCs), which reside in the bone marrow and periosteum. MSCs can differentiateinto chondrocytes, the cells responsible for cartilage formation. A pivotal study byMcCulloch et al. (2015) explored how mechanical loading affects MSC behavior. Theydemonstrated that compressive forces applied to bone marrow induced the migration anddifferentiation of MSCs into chondrocytes. This process is critical for cartilageformation, as MSCs generate new cartilage tissue that can contribute to the regenerationof growth-plate-like structures.In LSJL, the mechanical loading applied to the synovial joints generates forces thatmimic compressive stress, which in turn activates MSCs and drives them towardchondrogenesis. The stem cells recruited to the site of mechanical stress can differentiateinto chondrocytes, generating new cartilage that may resemble the structure and functionof an open growth plate. This regenerative process contributes to the elongation of bonesand the reopening of growth plates, which had previously been thought to be closedforever after puberty.Gene Expression and Growth Factor RegulationThe impact of LSJL on gene expression is another critical factor in its potential toreopen growth plates. A study by Zhang et al. (2017) demonstrated that mechanicalloading can increase the expression of genes involved in cartilage formation.Specifically, the application of mechanical stress led to the upregulation of SOX9, atranscription factor crucial for chondrogenesis. SOX9 promotes the differentiation ofchondrocytes and the production of extracellular matrix proteins like collagen andproteoglycans, which are essential components of cartilage.In LSJL, the mechanical forces applied to the joints likely stimulate SOX9 expression inthe surrounding tissues, activating the production of cartilage. This process contributesto the formation of growth plate-like cartilage, even in post-pubertal individuals.Moreover, studies have shown that mechanical loading also enhances the release ofother growth factors such as TGF-β and IGF-1, which promote cartilage regenerationand the maintenance of skeletal tissue. By mimicking the conditions of active growthplates, LSJL creates an environment conducive to skeletal growth, even after thetraditional growth plates have fused.Extracellular Matrix Remodeling and Cartilage FormationMechanical loading not only influences cellular behavior but also affects the extracellular matrix(ECM), which provides the structural support for cartilage and bone. A study by Teeple et al. (2013)explored how mechanical loading of cartilage influenced ECM remodeling. They discovered thatapplying compressive forces to cartilage tissue led to increased production of proteoglycans andcollagen, essential components of the ECM. Proteoglycans help trap water in the cartilage matrix,while collagen fibers provide the tensile strength necessary for maintaining cartilage integrity.In LSJL, the mechanical stress applied to the joints likely causes a similar remodeling effect on theECM. By stimulating the production of these molecules, LSJL supports the formation of a cartilagescaffold that can function similarly to the cartilage found in growth plates. The enhanced ECMproduction, combined with the cellular recruitment and gene activation described earlier, lays thegroundwork for the reopening of growth plate-like structures.Hypertrophic Chondrocyte ActivationHypertrophic chondrocytes, the enlarged cells found in the later stages of growth plateactivity, play a crucial role in the process of endochondral ossification, where cartilage isconverted into bone. A study by Lacey et al. (2012) investigated the influence ofmechanical loading on hypertrophic chondrocytes and their role in cartilage-bonetransitions. They found that mechanical stimuli could activate hypertrophicchondrocytes and enhance their contribution to the ossification process.LSJL may be able to reactivate hypertrophic chondrocytes by subjecting the synovialjoints to mechanical loading. This stimulation could encourage the chondrocytes tomature and participate in the formation of new bone tissue, a crucial step in thereopening of growth plates. The mechanical forces applied through LSJL could thus helprestore the process of endochondral ossification, leading to new bone growth in areaswhere growth plates were once located.ConclusionStudies on Piezo1 activation, stem cell recruitment, gene expression, ECM remodeling,and hypertrophic chondrocyte activity all point to the potential of LSJL to reopen growthplates. By leveraging mechanical loading to stimulate these cellular and molecularprocesses, LSJL creates an environment conducive to cartilage regeneration and bonegrowth. While more research is needed to fully understand the long-term effects andoptimal protocols for LSJL, the existing evidence demonstrates its capacity to mimic thefunctions of active growth plates and promote skeletal elongation.Resources:1. Li et al. (2014): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31290742/2. McCulloch et al. (2015): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25667984/3. Zhang et al. (2017): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/365664454. Teeple et al. (2013): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28836259/5. Lacey et al. (2012): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10913332/HowAll of This Proves LSJL Can Reopen Growth PlatesIn this chapter, we are going to explain everything we talked about in a simple way, soit's easy to understand. Think of it like a puzzle: we have lots of pieces of informationfrom different studies, and when we put them all together, we can see how they supportthe idea that LSJL (Lateral Synovial Joint Loading) might help reopen growth plates andallow us to grow taller after puberty.1. What is LSJL?First, let’s quickly remind ourselves about what LSJL is. Imagine you are applying aspecial kind of pressure to your bones, especially around your joints. This pressure islike a squeeze that stimulates your bones and the soft tissue around them. This actionencourages your body to make more bone tissue and helps with healing. Someresearchers believe that by doing this kind of targeted pressure on the joints, we canencourage the growth of new bone tissue or reactivate dormant (inactive) growth plates,the special areas in our bones that help us grow taller when we are younger.2. How Does LSJL Work?Now, we know that bones can grow because of cells called osteoblasts (which createnew bone) and chondrocytes (which create cartilage). For our bones to grow, these cellsneed to be activated, and they need the right kind of signals. LSJL, when used properly,can send the right signals to the bones and encourage these cells to work.Studies have shown that pressure applied to bones, just like what LSJL does, canactivate certain signaling pathways in the body. These pathways are like instructionsthat tell the cells what to do. One important signaling pathway involves a protein calledPiezo1, which helps the body know when to start making more bone or cartilage. Whenwe apply pressure to the bones, Piezo1 and other similar proteins are activated, whichleads to the cells in the area starting to regenerate or repair the bone tissue.3. How Does This Relate to Growth Plates?You might be wondering, how does this connect to growth plates? Well, growth platesare made of cartilage and are where our bones grow when we are younger. As we growolder, these plates close and turn into solid bone, and we stop growing taller. However,researchers have found that even after these growth plates close, the body can still formnew growth-like tissue at the epiphyseal line, which is where the growth plate used tobe. If we can stimulate this tissue to become active again, it could give us theopportunity to grow taller even after puberty.This is where LSJL comes in. By applying pressure to the joints in a specific way, LSJLmight be able to stimulate the epiphyseal line and encourage the creation of newcartilage and bone tissue. This could be similar to how new bone tissue forms aroundjoints in children when they are growing.4. Supporting Evidence from Deer Antler StudiesNow, let's add another piece to our puzzle. Did you know that deer can regrow theirantlers every year? This is incredible because it shows how certain animals canregenerate bone and cartilage, something that humans can’t do easily. But here’s theinteresting part: scientists have studied the cells responsible for this antler regrowth, andthey discovered special progenitor cells in deer antlers. These cells have the ability tocreate both bone and cartilage, and they are activated by certain signals in the body.If we can learn how these cells work in deer, maybe we can apply similar methods tohelp our own bones grow again. In the future, scientists might figure out how to usethese kinds of cells or the signals they use to help us reactivate growth plates. This couldmean that LSJL might not just be a method to apply pressure to bones—it could be partof a bigger picture where we help activate our own natural regenerative abilities.5. How All This Fits TogetherSo, let’s take a step back and put everything together. We’ve learned that LSJL appliespressure to bones, which can activate certain proteins like Piezo1. These proteins sendsignals to the cells to start creating bone and cartilage. We’ve also learned that, evenafter growth plates close, the body can still create bone-like tissue if it’s given the rightsignals. And, finally, we’ve seen how animals like deer can regenerate bone, and howstudying this could teach us new ways to help our bones grow too.All of this evidence suggests that LSJL, when used correctly, might help reopen growthplates or stimulate growth-like activity in areas where growth plates once were. By usingLSJL in combination with natural methods like exercise, fasting, and good nutrition, wecould maximize our body’s potential for bone growth, even after puberty.Dexter
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But who asked boi? No one
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6’0 barefoot. If I fix my APT and flat foot maybe I can be around 6’1-6’2. But I want more. I was thinking like 6’4 minimum. I might go and get an X-ray and pray to God my plates are still open.
Lateral Synovial Joint Loading (LSJL) has the potential to reopen growth plates byutilizing mechanical stimuli to trigger biological responses in the skeletal system. Tounderstand how LSJL works, we can examine studies that explore the effect ofmechanical loading on cartilage and bone, highlighting the signaling pathways andcellular activities involved.Mechanical Loading and Piezo1 ActivationOne key pathway activated by mechanical loading is the Piezo1 mechanoreceptor, whichis sensitive to changes in fluid shear stress and mechanical deformation. A study by Li etal. (2014) investigated the role of Piezo1 in bone mechanotransduction. The researchersfound that when mechanical forces were applied to bone, Piezo1 receptors wereactivated, leading to increased calcium influx into osteocytes. This influx of calcium iscritical for initiating cellular responses such as the upregulation of growth factors likeIGF-1 and the activation of downstream signaling pathways related to bone remodelingand cartilage formation.When LSJL applies targeted mechanical stress to joints, it induces a similar effect,activating Piezo1 receptors in the bone and surrounding cartilage. This, in turn, sets off acascade of biochemical events that mimic the conditions of active growth plates. Themechanical stress and fluid flow through the bone stimulate osteocytes and other cells toproduce extracellular matrix proteins and growth factors that encourage cartilagegrowth—an essential step in the potential reopening of growth plates.Stem Cell Recruitment and ChondrogenesisAnother essential aspect of LSJL's mechanism is the activation of mesenchymal stemcells (MSCs), which reside in the bone marrow and periosteum. MSCs can differentiateinto chondrocytes, the cells responsible for cartilage formation. A pivotal study byMcCulloch et al. (2015) explored how mechanical loading affects MSC behavior. Theydemonstrated that compressive forces applied to bone marrow induced the migration anddifferentiation of MSCs into chondrocytes. This process is critical for cartilageformation, as MSCs generate new cartilage tissue that can contribute to the regenerationof growth-plate-like structures.In LSJL, the mechanical loading applied to the synovial joints generates forces thatmimic compressive stress, which in turn activates MSCs and drives them towardchondrogenesis. The stem cells recruited to the site of mechanical stress can differentiateinto chondrocytes, generating new cartilage that may resemble the structure and functionof an open growth plate. This regenerative process contributes to the elongation of bonesand the reopening of growth plates, which had previously been thought to be closedforever after puberty.Gene Expression and Growth Factor RegulationThe impact of LSJL on gene expression is another critical factor in its potential toreopen growth plates. A study by Zhang et al. (2017) demonstrated that mechanicalloading can increase the expression of genes involved in cartilage formation.Specifically, the application of mechanical stress led to the upregulation of SOX9, atranscription factor crucial for chondrogenesis. SOX9 promotes the differentiation ofchondrocytes and the production of extracellular matrix proteins like collagen andproteoglycans, which are essential components of cartilage.In LSJL, the mechanical forces applied to the joints likely stimulate SOX9 expression inthe surrounding tissues, activating the production of cartilage. This process contributesto the formation of growth plate-like cartilage, even in post-pubertal individuals.Moreover, studies have shown that mechanical loading also enhances the release ofother growth factors such as TGF-β and IGF-1, which promote cartilage regenerationand the maintenance of skeletal tissue. By mimicking the conditions of active growthplates, LSJL creates an environment conducive to skeletal growth, even after thetraditional growth plates have fused.Extracellular Matrix Remodeling and Cartilage FormationMechanical loading not only influences cellular behavior but also affects the extracellular matrix(ECM), which provides the structural support for cartilage and bone. A study by Teeple et al. (2013)explored how mechanical loading of cartilage influenced ECM remodeling. They discovered thatapplying compressive forces to cartilage tissue led to increased production of proteoglycans andcollagen, essential components of the ECM. Proteoglycans help trap water in the cartilage matrix,while collagen fibers provide the tensile strength necessary for maintaining cartilage integrity.In LSJL, the mechanical stress applied to the joints likely causes a similar remodeling effect on theECM. By stimulating the production of these molecules, LSJL supports the formation of a cartilagescaffold that can function similarly to the cartilage found in growth plates. The enhanced ECMproduction, combined with the cellular recruitment and gene activation described earlier, lays thegroundwork for the reopening of growth plate-like structures.Hypertrophic Chondrocyte ActivationHypertrophic chondrocytes, the enlarged cells found in the later stages of growth plateactivity, play a crucial role in the process of endochondral ossification, where cartilage isconverted into bone. A study by Lacey et al. (2012) investigated the influence ofmechanical loading on hypertrophic chondrocytes and their role in cartilage-bonetransitions. They found that mechanical stimuli could activate hypertrophicchondrocytes and enhance their contribution to the ossification process.LSJL may be able to reactivate hypertrophic chondrocytes by subjecting the synovialjoints to mechanical loading. This stimulation could encourage the chondrocytes tomature and participate in the formation of new bone tissue, a crucial step in thereopening of growth plates. The mechanical forces applied through LSJL could thus helprestore the process of endochondral ossification, leading to new bone growth in areaswhere growth plates were once located.ConclusionStudies on Piezo1 activation, stem cell recruitment, gene expression, ECM remodeling,and hypertrophic chondrocyte activity all point to the potential of LSJL to reopen growthplates. By leveraging mechanical loading to stimulate these cellular and molecularprocesses, LSJL creates an environment conducive to cartilage regeneration and bonegrowth. While more research is needed to fully understand the long-term effects andoptimal protocols for LSJL, the existing evidence demonstrates its capacity to mimic thefunctions of active growth plates and promote skeletal elongation.Resources:1. Li et al. (2014): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31290742/2. McCulloch et al. (2015): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25667984/3. Zhang et al. (2017): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/365664454. Teeple et al. (2013): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28836259/5. Lacey et al. (2012): https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10913332/HowAll of This Proves LSJL Can Reopen Growth PlatesIn this chapter, we are going to explain everything we talked about in a simple way, soit's easy to understand. Think of it like a puzzle: we have lots of pieces of informationfrom different studies, and when we put them all together, we can see how they supportthe idea that LSJL (Lateral Synovial Joint Loading) might help reopen growth plates andallow us to grow taller after puberty.1. What is LSJL?First, let’s quickly remind ourselves about what LSJL is. Imagine you are applying aspecial kind of pressure to your bones, especially around your joints. This pressure islike a squeeze that stimulates your bones and the soft tissue around them. This actionencourages your body to make more bone tissue and helps with healing. Someresearchers believe that by doing this kind of targeted pressure on the joints, we canencourage the growth of new bone tissue or reactivate dormant (inactive) growth plates,the special areas in our bones that help us grow taller when we are younger.2. How Does LSJL Work?Now, we know that bones can grow because of cells called osteoblasts (which createnew bone) and chondrocytes (which create cartilage). For our bones to grow, these cellsneed to be activated, and they need the right kind of signals. LSJL, when used properly,can send the right signals to the bones and encourage these cells to work.Studies have shown that pressure applied to bones, just like what LSJL does, canactivate certain signaling pathways in the body. These pathways are like instructionsthat tell the cells what to do. One important signaling pathway involves a protein calledPiezo1, which helps the body know when to start making more bone or cartilage. Whenwe apply pressure to the bones, Piezo1 and other similar proteins are activated, whichleads to the cells in the area starting to regenerate or repair the bone tissue.3. How Does This Relate to Growth Plates?You might be wondering, how does this connect to growth plates? Well, growth platesare made of cartilage and are where our bones grow when we are younger. As we growolder, these plates close and turn into solid bone, and we stop growing taller. However,researchers have found that even after these growth plates close, the body can still formnew growth-like tissue at the epiphyseal line, which is where the growth plate used tobe. If we can stimulate this tissue to become active again, it could give us theopportunity to grow taller even after puberty.This is where LSJL comes in. By applying pressure to the joints in a specific way, LSJLmight be able to stimulate the epiphyseal line and encourage the creation of newcartilage and bone tissue. This could be similar to how new bone tissue forms aroundjoints in children when they are growing.4. Supporting Evidence from Deer Antler StudiesNow, let's add another piece to our puzzle. Did you know that deer can regrow theirantlers every year? This is incredible because it shows how certain animals canregenerate bone and cartilage, something that humans can’t do easily. But here’s theinteresting part: scientists have studied the cells responsible for this antler regrowth, andthey discovered special progenitor cells in deer antlers. These cells have the ability tocreate both bone and cartilage, and they are activated by certain signals in the body.If we can learn how these cells work in deer, maybe we can apply similar methods tohelp our own bones grow again. In the future, scientists might figure out how to usethese kinds of cells or the signals they use to help us reactivate growth plates. This couldmean that LSJL might not just be a method to apply pressure to bones—it could be partof a bigger picture where we help activate our own natural regenerative abilities.5. How All This Fits TogetherSo, let’s take a step back and put everything together. We’ve learned that LSJL appliespressure to bones, which can activate certain proteins like Piezo1. These proteins sendsignals to the cells to start creating bone and cartilage. We’ve also learned that, evenafter growth plates close, the body can still create bone-like tissue if it’s given the rightsignals. And, finally, we’ve seen how animals like deer can regenerate bone, and howstudying this could teach us new ways to help our bones grow too.All of this evidence suggests that LSJL, when used correctly, might help reopen growthplates or stimulate growth-like activity in areas where growth plates once were. By usingLSJL in combination with natural methods like exercise, fasting, and good nutrition, wecould maximize our body’s potential for bone growth, even after puberty.
Dexter can u address the points here
raw diet is the only way
anythiing but a trip to turkey or hghBone stretching. Imma copypaste this from another thread:
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Now we know banded sleeping works for spinal decompression and gives 1-2 inches over months, however this effect fades away over a few months when you decide to stop. I think this can possibly be turned to real permanent height. Most people don't know but bones have plasticity,they are able to bend and compress without breaking (ex. people with rickets). They can go through deformation.
Now there are two types of deformation,
- elastic deformation
- plastic deformation
Elastic is temporary (bone springs back into original shape). Plastic, however, is permanent, the bone stays in the state its deformed in. In theory, it is possible to permanently elongate bone through carefully applied, sustained axial tension. If a long bone is subjected to tension above its yield point but below the fracture threshold, it can plastically deform.
With induced microfractures in bone combined with banded sleeping, it could gradually lengthen by along that axis. Plastic deformation in this way is irreversible, and once the bone remodels under these new mechanical stresses, it could retain the longer shape as the material adapts to reinforce its structure along the new orientation. This principle is analogous to the surgical procedure of distraction osteogenesis, otherwise known as limb lengthening surgery, except that here it relies purely on mechanical stress instead of osteotomy to creating a physical gap.
Applying this concept to banded sleeping, the idea is that by stretching the bone during sleep WITH induced microfractures could induce sustained axial tension along the spine, femur, and tibia gradually stretching the vertebrae, intervertebral discs, and bone over months. In theory, if this tension were maintained consistently and precisely, the bones could undergo plastic deformation, while the discs adapt to the stress, potentially increasing end-to-end length. Over time, this process could create a permanent increase in stature, as the reinforced bones retain their new elongated geometry via osteogenesis.”
My plates are closed so hgh might not work and I’m not spending 100 grand for surgery
