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Looksmax Debunking Cope

goyard

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Debunking Cope



Obviously doesn’t work, will end up damaging nerves, causing severe asymmetry, and possibly brain damage.

~ “But Wolff’s Law!!!!!

Wolff’s law states that bone tissue adapts to the normal mechanical loads placed on it. (If a bone is used more it becomes denser and stronger)

~ Hit the bonemicro fracturesbone rebuilds stronger.

Cage if you believe it works this way: facial bones are delicate, filled with sinus cavities, and ESPECIALLY not designed for high impact forces.

~ Microfractures are caused; with the goal being to regrow it with more “density”, ends up regrowing with worse symmetry, deformity, and most of the time nerve damage.


Self explanatory. You cannot change your maxilla, zygomatic, nor your mandible. Facial bones are formed by intramembranous ossification (not cartilaginous).

~ Membranous bone; very low plasticity, heals by restoring original contour, not forming protrusions.

Simplification: The bone cannot be molded by fingers.

~ Maxilla is fused; ages 15-20 the sutures that allow growth fuse: zygomaticomaxillary suture, nasomaxillary suture, pterygopalatine junction, and the median palatal suture. After fusion the maxilla is a single rigid structure, meaning it cannot be changed naturally anymore and its development is over. After this point surgery would be required.

~ Forces

Orthodontics
use expanders that exert 1000+ newtons to move the maxillary bone; a human thumb generates around 100 newtons of force, scientifically, it’s just not possible.


The practice of pulling the skin around the eye sockets to expand the orbital bone.

~ First off, orbital bones are extremely rigid: maxilla, zygomatic bone, lacrimal bone, ethmoid, sphenoid, and frontal bone. These bones cannot be reshaped once fused.

The eye socket is like a bone bowl. You physically cannot move any part of it with the pressure of your fingers; it would require way more than 100 newtons of force.

~ Pulling doesn’t move the bone, it only affects the skin. Soft tissue can temporarily move briefly allowing for the illusion of “lifted eyes,” which goes away after 5 minutes.


Basically the same as thumbpulling but with a different technique, still doesn’t work at the end of the day. If anything, it makes your palate worse. Just don’t put your fingers in your mouth.


Like the maxilla, the zygomatic bone is a rigid fully fused craniofacial bone; it cannot be molded by your fingers.

Even if you somehow apply enough pressure, all the force is absorbed by skin, muscle, and fat, preventing meaningful mechanical strain.


All this does is temporarily pump the masseter muscles, similar to bonesmashing swelling. It will go away after a few minutes.

You can train the jaw muscles to be bigger (hypertrophy), but it carries the risk of TMJ damage, uneven bite forces, and migraines.

~ This does NOT give you forward growth or reshape bones.

You’re welcome, too lazy to type more.
 
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Debunking Cope


Obviously doesn’t work, will end up damaging nerves, causing severe asymmetry, and possibly brain damage.

~ “But Wolff’s Law!!!!!

Wolff’s law states that bone tissue adapts to the normal mechanical loads placed on it. (If a bone is used more it becomes denser and stronger)

~ Hit the bonemicro fracturesbone rebuilds stronger.

Cage if you believe it works this way: facial bones are delicate, filled with sinus cavities, and ESPECIALLY not designed for high impact forces.

~ Microfractures are caused; with the goal being to regrow it with more “density”, ends up regrowing with worse symmetry, deformity, and most of the time nerve damage.

Self explanatory. You cannot change your maxilla, zygomatic, nor your mandible. Facial bones are formed by intramembranous ossification (not cartilaginous).

~ Membranous bone; very low plasticity, heals by restoring original contour, not forming protrusions.

Simplification: The bone cannot be molded by fingers.

~ Maxilla is fused; ages 15-20 the sutures that allow growth fuse: zygomaticomaxillary suture, nasomaxillary suture, pterygopalatine junction, and the median palatal suture. After fusion the maxilla is a single rigid structure, meaning it cannot be changed naturally anymore and its development is over. After this point surgery would be required.

~ Forces

Orthodontics
use expanders that exert 1000+ newtons to move the maxillary bone; a human thumb generates around 100 newtons of force, scientifically, it’s just not possible.

The practice of pulling the skin around the eye sockets to expand the orbital bone.

~ First off, orbital bones are extremely rigid: maxilla, zygomatic bone, lacrimal bone, ethmoid, sphenoid, and frontal bone. These bones cannot be reshaped once fused.

The eye socket is like a bone bowl. You physically cannot move any part of it with the pressure of your fingers; it would require way more than 100 newtons of force.

~ Pulling doesn’t move the bone, it only affects the skin. Soft tissue can temporarily move briefly allowing for the illusion of “lifted eyes,” which goes away after 5 minutes.

Basically the same as thumbpulling but with a different technique, still doesn’t work at the end of the day. If anything, it makes your palate worse. Just don’t put your fingers in your mouth.

Like the maxilla, the zygomatic bone is a rigid fully fused craniofacial bone; it cannot be molded by your fingers.

Even if you somehow apply enough pressure, all the force is absorbed by skin, muscle, and fat, preventing meaningful mechanical strain.

All this does is temporarily pump the masseter muscles, similar to bonesmashing swelling. It will go away after a few minutes.

You can train the jaw muscles to be bigger (hypertrophy), but it carries the risk of TMJ damage, uneven bite forces, and migraines.

~ This does NOT give you forward growth or reshape bones.

You’re welcome, too lazy to type more.
I know this thread will be good
 

Tallcel

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Debunking Cope


Obviously doesn’t work, will end up damaging nerves, causing severe asymmetry, and possibly brain damage.

~ “But Wolff’s Law!!!!!

Wolff’s law states that bone tissue adapts to the normal mechanical loads placed on it. (If a bone is used more it becomes denser and stronger)

~ Hit the bonemicro fracturesbone rebuilds stronger.

Cage if you believe it works this way: facial bones are delicate, filled with sinus cavities, and ESPECIALLY not designed for high impact forces.

~ Microfractures are caused; with the goal being to regrow it with more “density”, ends up regrowing with worse symmetry, deformity, and most of the time nerve damage.

Self explanatory. You cannot change your maxilla, zygomatic, nor your mandible. Facial bones are formed by intramembranous ossification (not cartilaginous).

~ Membranous bone; very low plasticity, heals by restoring original contour, not forming protrusions.

Simplification: The bone cannot be molded by fingers.

~ Maxilla is fused; ages 15-20 the sutures that allow growth fuse: zygomaticomaxillary suture, nasomaxillary suture, pterygopalatine junction, and the median palatal suture. After fusion the maxilla is a single rigid structure, meaning it cannot be changed naturally anymore and its development is over. After this point surgery would be required.

~ Forces

Orthodontics
use expanders that exert 1000+ newtons to move the maxillary bone; a human thumb generates around 100 newtons of force, scientifically, it’s just not possible.

The practice of pulling the skin around the eye sockets to expand the orbital bone.

~ First off, orbital bones are extremely rigid: maxilla, zygomatic bone, lacrimal bone, ethmoid, sphenoid, and frontal bone. These bones cannot be reshaped once fused.

The eye socket is like a bone bowl. You physically cannot move any part of it with the pressure of your fingers; it would require way more than 100 newtons of force.

~ Pulling doesn’t move the bone, it only affects the skin. Soft tissue can temporarily move briefly allowing for the illusion of “lifted eyes,” which goes away after 5 minutes.

Basically the same as thumbpulling but with a different technique, still doesn’t work at the end of the day. If anything, it makes your palate worse. Just don’t put your fingers in your mouth.

Like the maxilla, the zygomatic bone is a rigid fully fused craniofacial bone; it cannot be molded by your fingers.

Even if you somehow apply enough pressure, all the force is absorbed by skin, muscle, and fat, preventing meaningful mechanical strain.

All this does is temporarily pump the masseter muscles, similar to bonesmashing swelling. It will go away after a few minutes.

You can train the jaw muscles to be bigger (hypertrophy), but it carries the risk of TMJ damage, uneven bite forces, and migraines.

~ This does NOT give you forward growth or reshape bones.

You’re welcome, too lazy to type more.
Mirin iq
 

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Debunking Cope


Obviously doesn’t work, will end up damaging nerves, causing severe asymmetry, and possibly brain damage.

~ “But Wolff’s Law!!!!!

Wolff’s law states that bone tissue adapts to the normal mechanical loads placed on it. (If a bone is used more it becomes denser and stronger)

~ Hit the bonemicro fracturesbone rebuilds stronger.

Cage if you believe it works this way: facial bones are delicate, filled with sinus cavities, and ESPECIALLY not designed for high impact forces.

~ Microfractures are caused; with the goal being to regrow it with more “density”, ends up regrowing with worse symmetry, deformity, and most of the time nerve damage.

Self explanatory. You cannot change your maxilla, zygomatic, nor your mandible. Facial bones are formed by intramembranous ossification (not cartilaginous).

~ Membranous bone; very low plasticity, heals by restoring original contour, not forming protrusions.

Simplification: The bone cannot be molded by fingers.

~ Maxilla is fused; ages 15-20 the sutures that allow growth fuse: zygomaticomaxillary suture, nasomaxillary suture, pterygopalatine junction, and the median palatal suture. After fusion the maxilla is a single rigid structure, meaning it cannot be changed naturally anymore and its development is over. After this point surgery would be required.

~ Forces

Orthodontics
use expanders that exert 1000+ newtons to move the maxillary bone; a human thumb generates around 100 newtons of force, scientifically, it’s just not possible.

The practice of pulling the skin around the eye sockets to expand the orbital bone.

~ First off, orbital bones are extremely rigid: maxilla, zygomatic bone, lacrimal bone, ethmoid, sphenoid, and frontal bone. These bones cannot be reshaped once fused.

The eye socket is like a bone bowl. You physically cannot move any part of it with the pressure of your fingers; it would require way more than 100 newtons of force.

~ Pulling doesn’t move the bone, it only affects the skin. Soft tissue can temporarily move briefly allowing for the illusion of “lifted eyes,” which goes away after 5 minutes.

Basically the same as thumbpulling but with a different technique, still doesn’t work at the end of the day. If anything, it makes your palate worse. Just don’t put your fingers in your mouth.

Like the maxilla, the zygomatic bone is a rigid fully fused craniofacial bone; it cannot be molded by your fingers.

Even if you somehow apply enough pressure, all the force is absorbed by skin, muscle, and fat, preventing meaningful mechanical strain.

All this does is temporarily pump the masseter muscles, similar to bonesmashing swelling. It will go away after a few minutes.

You can train the jaw muscles to be bigger (hypertrophy), but it carries the risk of TMJ damage, uneven bite forces, and migraines.

~ This does NOT give you forward growth or reshape bones.

You’re welcome, too lazy to type more.
great thread bro, thanks ❤️
 

Diad

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Debunking Cope


Obviously doesn’t work, will end up damaging nerves, causing severe asymmetry, and possibly brain damage.

~ “But Wolff’s Law!!!!!

Wolff’s law states that bone tissue adapts to the normal mechanical loads placed on it. (If a bone is used more it becomes denser and stronger)

~ Hit the bonemicro fracturesbone rebuilds stronger.

Cage if you believe it works this way: facial bones are delicate, filled with sinus cavities, and ESPECIALLY not designed for high impact forces.

~ Microfractures are caused; with the goal being to regrow it with more “density”, ends up regrowing with worse symmetry, deformity, and most of the time nerve damage.

Self explanatory. You cannot change your maxilla, zygomatic, nor your mandible. Facial bones are formed by intramembranous ossification (not cartilaginous).

~ Membranous bone; very low plasticity, heals by restoring original contour, not forming protrusions.

Simplification: The bone cannot be molded by fingers.

~ Maxilla is fused; ages 15-20 the sutures that allow growth fuse: zygomaticomaxillary suture, nasomaxillary suture, pterygopalatine junction, and the median palatal suture. After fusion the maxilla is a single rigid structure, meaning it cannot be changed naturally anymore and its development is over. After this point surgery would be required.

~ Forces

Orthodontics
use expanders that exert 1000+ newtons to move the maxillary bone; a human thumb generates around 100 newtons of force, scientifically, it’s just not possible.

The practice of pulling the skin around the eye sockets to expand the orbital bone.

~ First off, orbital bones are extremely rigid: maxilla, zygomatic bone, lacrimal bone, ethmoid, sphenoid, and frontal bone. These bones cannot be reshaped once fused.

The eye socket is like a bone bowl. You physically cannot move any part of it with the pressure of your fingers; it would require way more than 100 newtons of force.

~ Pulling doesn’t move the bone, it only affects the skin. Soft tissue can temporarily move briefly allowing for the illusion of “lifted eyes,” which goes away after 5 minutes.

Basically the same as thumbpulling but with a different technique, still doesn’t work at the end of the day. If anything, it makes your palate worse. Just don’t put your fingers in your mouth.

Like the maxilla, the zygomatic bone is a rigid fully fused craniofacial bone; it cannot be molded by your fingers.

Even if you somehow apply enough pressure, all the force is absorbed by skin, muscle, and fat, preventing meaningful mechanical strain.

All this does is temporarily pump the masseter muscles, similar to bonesmashing swelling. It will go away after a few minutes.

You can train the jaw muscles to be bigger (hypertrophy), but it carries the risk of TMJ damage, uneven bite forces, and migraines.

~ This does NOT give you forward growth or reshape bones.

You’re welcome, too lazy to type more.
Water, no way anyone in 2025 is actually discussing or arguing about any of this (besides clav apparently), mirin effort for newgens they will appreciate it tho
 

goyard

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Water, no way anyone in 2025 is actually discussing or arguing about any of this (besides clav apparently), mirin effort for newgens they will appreciate it tho
Agreed, this was more meant for the newcels who are still learning
 
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