Serious considering hopping off test need advice (2 Viewers)

[taylorhill_wifey]

my cortisol is at all time high and this shit is all i can think about. I love roiding and I do like the gym but i just don't know long term if it is worth it. Im almost 3 weeks in on my cycle and considering hopping off and buying enclo. Give me advice if I should keep going or stop. For me man it is just the fear of the unknown. I thought I wanted this but pinning every day for the rest of my life sounds ass tbh. Not closing the door on roids permanently, just temporarily if i do this. How fucked am I already and what do you guys think I should do.

 

[dookiebootybutt59]

i agree you should quit test and hop on enclo, your motive is so ass tho

 

[SinisterTRADition]

Do whatever you want nigga if you feel the need to hop off then hop off.

 

[taylorhill_wifey]

i agree you should quit test and hop on enclo, your motive is so ass tho

what do you disagree with? I want to be high T, I just don't know how sustainable it is

 

[14manlet]

why not test?

 

[taylorhill_wifey]

why not test?

i just don't want to dig myself in a hole where i have to pin no matter what forever and my test won't come back

 

[14manlet]

ill research a bit and get back

i just don't want to dig myself in a hole where i have to pin no matter what forever and my test won't come back

 

[taylorhill_wifey]

ill research a bit and get back

if i could get my test back naturally to 500ng/dl after 3 years on test and hcg together i would stay on, just not a lot of research

 

[dookiebootybutt59]

what do you disagree with? I want to be high T, I just don't know how sustainable it is

idk its just saying "the fear of unknown" makes it sound like you didnt do any research on test e, and earlier on tdy you said you were considering quitting just because your vendor left you on delivered. but regardless you'll be way happier and less anxious when you're off test swearsies

 

[taylorhill_wifey]

idk its just saying "the fear of unknown" makes it sound like you didnt do any research on test e, and earlier on tdy you said you were considering quitting just because your vendor left you on delivered. but regardless you'll be way happier and less anxious when you're off test swearsies

test c and i did the research just didn't realize how mentally stressful this shit would be

 

[dookiebootybutt59]

test c and i did the research just didn't realize how mentally stressful this shit would be

i really encourage you to make the choice of hopping off, i mean your test levels were already naturally high before, so even if your test levels are really low once you quit, its just a minor setback, enclo and hcg will save you big time dude

 

[14manlet]

the only way recovery is possible is if your at a younger age
hCG keeps ur testes active = less shrinkage
shorter total suppression = better odds
if ur at a younger age u have a better chance at recovery also
if u have good genetics and no underlying hypogonadism
and time off allows ur hpta axis to restart
but
also why most people dont reocver is cause the
Exogenous test shuts down lh/fsh from the brain
the longer the supression lasts the more ur brain forgets
hCG doesnt mean LH from the pituitary
cause after years peoples axis just never restart

 

[dookiebootybutt59]

the only way recovery is possible is if your at a younger age
hCG keeps ur testes active = less shrinkage
shorter total suppression = better odds
if ur at a younger age u have a better chance at recovery also
if u have good genetics and no underlying hypogonadism
and time off allows ur hpta axis to restart
but
also why most people dont reocver is cause the
Exogenous test shuts down lh/fsh from the brain
the longer the supression lasts the more ur brain forgets
hCG doesnt mean LH from the pituitary
cause after years peoples axis just never restart

he's 19, he'll prolly recover just fine

 

[taylorhill_wifey]

i really encourage you to make the choice of hopping off, i mean your test levels were already naturally high before, so even if your test levels are really low once you quit, its just a minor setback, enclo and hcg will save you big time dude

idk part of me says ascend or die trying. If i hop off I probably just stay the same and shrivel away

 

[taylorhill_wifey]

the only way recovery is possible is if your at a younger age
hCG keeps ur testes active = less shrinkage
shorter total suppression = better odds
if ur at a younger age u have a better chance at recovery also
if u have good genetics and no underlying hypogonadism
and time off allows ur hpta axis to restart
but
also why most people dont reocver is cause the
Exogenous test shuts down lh/fsh from the brain
the longer the supression lasts the more ur brain forgets
hCG doesnt mean LH from the pituitary
cause after years peoples axis just never restart

so if i took test and hcg for 3 years then came off would i be fucked?

 

[dookiebootybutt59]

idk part of me says ascend or die trying. If i hop off I probably just stay the same and shrivel away

dude werent your natural test levels like 800 or something?

 

[taylorhill_wifey]

dude werent your natural test levels like 800 or something?

yea i was a elite natural lifter but my progress was slowing down because i have been lifting since 14. Might have just got greedy

 

[14manlet]

so if i took test and hcg for 3 years then came off would i be fucked?

what doses

 

[taylorhill_wifey]

what doses

test 200mg-300mg weekly but pinned daily hcg alongside 150iu eod

 

[14manlet]

test 200mg-300mg weekly but pinned daily hcg alongside 150iu eod

stop test wait 6-12 weeks before testing and consider medical help if ur levels do stay low and if they do come back theyll be like at 300-500 but dont expect too much

 

[taylorhill_wifey]

stop test wait 6-12 weeks before testing and consider medical help if ur levels do stay low and if they do come back theyll be like at 300-500 but dont expect too much

and that's after running it for 3 years?

 

[14manlet]

and that's after running it for 3 years?

the common outcomes are
low t for months or years
you might not fully recover
or youll need TRT permanently
imo its a gamble
if u wanna get labs
total test
free test
LH
FSH
E2
SHBG
Prolactin
DHEA-S
cortisol

 

[taylorhill_wifey]

the common outcomes are
low t for months or years
you might not fully recover
or youll need TRT permanently
imo its a gamble
if u wanna get labs
total test
free test
LH
FSH
E2
SHBG
Prolactin
DHEA-S
cortisol

I feel like it’s often over exaggerated but maybe I’m wrong. Look at Connor sinnan’s new vid on tik tok

 

[14manlet]

I feel like it’s often over exaggerated but maybe I’m wrong. Look at Connor sinnan’s new vid on tik tok

at the end of the day its all your choice i would recommend stopping for a few months like 3-4 and test ur test levels after

 

[Synapzyzz]

hop off and do PCT, u can always try and hop on again later in life.