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Part 1/5: the introduction to the grey market.


something you've bound to have heard during your time in the looksmaxing — PSL autist community is the "grey market". More specifically, the "Chinese grey market". Now, what actually is the Chinese grey market? Well, the Chinese grey market is where all "research-chemical" grade peptides come from; peptides you buy via websites & WhatsApp/telegram groups.

It gets it's name from it's legal status; it's neither legal nor illegal, It's just about in the middle. Hence, "grey market". And no, for most people viewing this thread, it isn't illegal to purchase these peptides. When it comes to the western world, it's common that you'll not be prosecuted for purchasing peptides. Though, this is subject to change; ask around in STG or glp-1 forum (more on them later) to find out your specific legal situation.


Part 2/5: what you'll need to continue on with your journey


Here I'll list some things that you'll need to navigate & use the grey market ⬇

-300 dollars minimum
Because that's the standard minimum order amount to qualify for free shipping. "But saaaar, what if i can't afford that much?" Then get
off my thread you filthy peasant.
-Non custodial crypto wallet
Well, when using custodial crypto wallets, you're risking the transaction being flagged, sometimes resulting your funds lost. The reason why is because these corpos don't approve of your money being spent in the grey market. However, using non-custodial crypto wallets puts you in charge; no withholding. Though, this does mean there is no way to recover your account if you lose your details. So make sure to write your codes/passwords down on paper only. Also, I'd recommend using bitcoin. Most would recommend stable coins, but it isn't worth the hassle and risk, so just include 10 dollars more to cover any fluctuations that may occur.
-Scam awareness
Scam awareness is one of the most important things you'll need to practice while navigating the grey market. It is full of scammers; for every vendor server, 2-5 scammers will be likely to lurk within, preying on new members.
To avoid being some basement-dwelling faggots next victim:

-Keep in mind vendors never reach out to you; they'll never message first.
If one does, there's a 99% likelihood it's a scammer, so avoid them at all costs.

-Cross reference everything; reps usernames, crypto wallet addresses, server/group invite links, prices, everything. Everything must match up.

-Socialise; just talk to people. I recommend staying & talking in a vendor server/group for 1 week minimum before you place you order. Not only does this insure the validity of the vendor (via questions), it also opens up new opportunities, such as: group- buys, testing servers, and community hangouts.

The aforementioned should almost guarantee your safety, and you should never make any exceptions.
-larping skills
The majority of people reading this thread are most likely under the age of 18, I'd even bet some of you are below 16.

It should go without saying; it's crucial you  never reveal your real age to anyone within these spaces. Most of these spaces are populated with 25 year old pseudo-biohackers & 40 year old fat mothers.

Not only is it awkward, you'll also be shunned for using peptides while being so young.

So, larp older; use "🤣, 😂, 😅, 😱" emojis when acceptable, avoid excessive abbreviation (Ts, yh, ssa, k, y, aight/ight, bro) & avoid using slang. Ideally, you'll keep quiet when age-related discussions are happening, or anything else that might jeopardise your cover.

Part 3/5: getting started.

Now that I've listed everything you'll need, let's get started.
The best beginner/intermediate- level friendly place to begin with is: GLP-1 forum

glp1forumnewiconmasterwithtextincross-278612587.png

They have:
-A wide selection of trustworthy vendors
-Helpful user base
-Many good beginners threads regarding peptides/aspects of the grey market
-extensive moderation
-And much more.

There's plenty of well-known & trusted vendors you'll find on this forum, but, i can't help but recommend

JEEP
For your standard peptides. I've explained why extensively in the attached link (click JEEP)

Another extremely helpful website is:

Stair way to grey
stairway-to-gray-logo.PNG

Though, they can be more confusing than GLP-1 forum, so I'd recommend not starting there.

Part 4/5: valid pricing & good practice


Here's some industry-standard pricing, if a vendors price list is much more expensive or cheaper than this, they're most likely overcharging/scamming you. So proceed with caution.
Do note: one "kit" is 10 vials.

Screenshot_20251118_121626_Samsung_Notes.jpg

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Vendors should have atleast 10 COAs linked on their group/server. And, they should ideally have 3rd party tests aswell. Janoshik is the go to for testing, so if they've tested with someone else, i wouldn't go with them.
Also, their purity should be 99%< on all peptides, no matter what.



Part 5/5: Group buys and group testing

Group buys are when multiple people get together (typically 10-20) to order peptides together. This beneficial due to: cheaper pricing, testing, and community.

Group tests work a similar way, though they're usually done on products that have already been bought.

Normally, people choose one batch of a peptide to test, send in a vial from that batch, chip-in 25-30 dollars, and wait for the results. And in some cases, you may receive credit for testing (JEEP is notorious for this) since of course, testing benefits both party's.

But there are alot of group-buy scams occurring at the moment, so practice what i said before, and be very careful with who you send your money to. This is also why i recommend being active in vendor servers/groups; getting to know these people, and vice versa. These groups are usually pretty restricted, now more than ever.


Conclusion + tips & tricks.


Well boyos, we're nearing the end now. I'll go over some common myths/misconceptions quickly before the end. This won't necessarily be about the grey market, but more about peptides in general.

-"Tilt the vial when injecting bac water" myth; janoshik debunked this. Along with the fact that unreconstituted last for only 1-2 years, when in reality, they last for 5+ years at room temperature perfectly, not to even mention refrigeration.

-"Domestic peptides have better quality control" myth; they all come from china JFL.

-"Chinese peptides are a scam" nope; you're just uneducated, retarded, or racist.

-"Peptides from china are dangerous!" Yeah ok eli lilly; corporate propaganda.

-"You need to freeze peptides if you plan on storing them for 2+ years" myth; i just went over this.

That's it boyos



 

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Part 1/5: the introduction to the grey market.


something you've bound to have heard during your time in the looksmaxing — PSL autist community is the "grey market". More specifically, the "Chinese grey market". Now, what actually is the Chinese grey market? Well, the Chinese grey market is where all "research-chemical" grade peptides come from; peptides you buy via websites & WhatsApp/telegram groups.

It gets it's name from it's legal status; it's neither legal nor illegal, It's just about in the middle. Hence, "grey market". And no, for most people viewing this thread, it isn't illegal to purchase these peptides. When it comes to the western world, it's common that you'll not be prosecuted for purchasing peptides. Though, this is subject to change; ask around in STG or glp-1 forum (more on them later) to find out your specific legal situation.


Part 2/5: what you'll need to continue on with your journey


Here I'll list some things that you'll need to navigate & use the grey market ⬇

-300 dollars minimum
Because that's the standard minimum order amount to qualify for free shipping. "But saaaar, what if i can't afford that much?" Then get
off my thread you filthy peasant.
View attachment 24352
-Non custodial crypto wallet
Well, when using custodial crypto wallets, you're risking the transaction being flagged, sometimes resulting your funds lost. The reason why is because these corpos don't approve of your money being spent in the grey market. However, using non-custodial crypto wallets puts you in charge; no withholding. Though, this does mean there is no way to recover your account if you lose your details. So make sure to write your codes/passwords down on paper only. Also, I'd recommend using bitcoin. Most would recommend stable coins, but it isn't worth the hassle and risk, so just include 10 dollars more to cover any fluctuations that may occur.
-Scam awareness
Scam awareness is one of the most important things you'll need to practice while navigating the grey market. It is full of scammers; for every vendor server, 2-5 scammers will be likely to lurk within, preying on new members.
To avoid being some basement-dwelling faggots next victim:

-Keep in mind vendors never reach out to you; they'll never message first.
If one does, there's a 99% likelihood it's a scammer, so avoid them at all costs.

-Cross reference everything; reps usernames, crypto wallet addresses, server/group invite links, prices, everything. Everything must match up.

-Socialise; just talk to people. I recommend staying & talking in a vendor server/group for 1 week minimum before you place you order. Not only does this insure the validity of the vendor (via questions), it also opens up new opportunities, such as: group- buys, testing servers, and community hangouts.

The aforementioned should almost guarantee your safety, and you should never make any exceptions.
-larping skills
The majority of people reading this thread are most likely under the age of 18, I'd even bet some of you are below 16.

It should go without saying; it's crucial you  never reveal your real age to anyone within these spaces. Most of these spaces are populated with 25 year old pseudo-biohackers & 40 year old fat mothers.

Not only is it awkward, you'll also be shunned for using peptides while being so young.

So, larp older; use "🤣, 😂, 😅, 😱" emojis when acceptable, avoid excessive abbreviation (Ts, yh, ssa, k, y, aight/ight, bro) & avoid using slang. Ideally, you'll keep quiet when age-related discussions are happening, or anything else that might jeopardise your cover.

Part 3/5: getting started.

Now that I've listed everything you'll need, let's get started.
The best beginner/intermediate- level friendly place to begin with is: GLP-1 forum

View attachment 24388

They have:
-A wide selection of trustworthy vendors
-Helpful user base
-Many good beginners threads regarding peptides/aspects of the grey market
-extensive moderation
-And much more.

There's plenty of well-known & trusted vendors you'll find on this forum, but, i can't help but recommend

JEEP
For your standard peptides. I've explained why extensively in the attached link (click JEEP)

Another extremely helpful website is:

Stair way to grey
View attachment 24397

Though, they can be more confusing than GLP-1 forum, so I'd recommend not starting there.

Part 4/5: valid pricing & good practice


Here's some industry-standard pricing, if a vendors price list is much more expensive or cheaper than this, they're most likely overcharging/scamming you. So proceed with caution.
Do note: one "kit" is 10 vials.



Vendors should have atleast 10 COAs linked on their group/server. And, they should ideally have 3rd party tests aswell. Janoshik is the go to for testing, so if they've tested with someone else, i wouldn't go with them.
Also, their purity should be 99%< on all peptides, no matter what.



Part 5/5: Group buys and group testing

Group buys are when multiple people get together (typically 10-20) to order peptides together. This beneficial due to: cheaper pricing, testing, and community.

Group tests work a similar way, though they're usually done on products that have already been bought.

Normally, people choose one batch of a peptide to test, send in a vial from that batch, chip-in 25-30 dollars, and wait for the results. And in some cases, you may receive credit for testing (JEEP is notorious for this) since of course, testing benefits both party's.

But there are alot of group-buy scams occurring at the moment, so practice what i said before, and be very careful with who you send your money to. This is also why i recommend being active in vendor servers/groups; getting to know these people, and vice versa. These groups are usually pretty restricted, now more than ever.


Conclusion + tips & tricks.


Well boyos, we're nearing the end now. I'll go over some common myths/misconceptions quickly before the end. This won't necessarily be about the grey market, but more about peptides in general.

-"Tilt the vial when injecting bac water" myth; janoshik debunked this. Along with the fact that unreconstituted last for only 1-2 years, when in reality, they last for 5+ years at room temperature perfectly, not to even mention refrigeration.

-"Domestic peptides have better quality control" myth; they all come from china JFL.

-"Chinese peptides are a scam" nope; you're just uneducated, retarded, or racist.

-"Peptides from china are dangerous!" Yeah ok eli lilly; corporate propaganda.

-"You need to freeze peptides if you plan on storing them for 2+ years" myth; i just went over this.

That's it boyos



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Part 1/5: the introduction to the grey market.


something you've bound to have heard during your time in the looksmaxing — PSL autist community is the "grey market". More specifically, the "Chinese grey market". Now, what actually is the Chinese grey market? Well, the Chinese grey market is where all "research-chemical" grade peptides come from; peptides you buy via websites & WhatsApp/telegram groups.

It gets it's name from it's legal status; it's neither legal nor illegal, It's just about in the middle. Hence, "grey market". And no, for most people viewing this thread, it isn't illegal to purchase these peptides. When it comes to the western world, it's common that you'll not be prosecuted for purchasing peptides. Though, this is subject to change; ask around in STG or glp-1 forum (more on them later) to find out your specific legal situation.


Part 2/5: what you'll need to continue on with your journey


Here I'll list some things that you'll need to navigate & use the grey market ⬇

-300 dollars minimum
Because that's the standard minimum order amount to qualify for free shipping. "But saaaar, what if i can't afford that much?" Then get
off my thread you filthy peasant.
View attachment 24352
-Non custodial crypto wallet
Well, when using custodial crypto wallets, you're risking the transaction being flagged, sometimes resulting your funds lost. The reason why is because these corpos don't approve of your money being spent in the grey market. However, using non-custodial crypto wallets puts you in charge; no withholding. Though, this does mean there is no way to recover your account if you lose your details. So make sure to write your codes/passwords down on paper only. Also, I'd recommend using bitcoin. Most would recommend stable coins, but it isn't worth the hassle and risk, so just include 10 dollars more to cover any fluctuations that may occur.
-Scam awareness
Scam awareness is one of the most important things you'll need to practice while navigating the grey market. It is full of scammers; for every vendor server, 2-5 scammers will be likely to lurk within, preying on new members.
To avoid being some basement-dwelling faggots next victim:

-Keep in mind vendors never reach out to you; they'll never message first.
If one does, there's a 99% likelihood it's a scammer, so avoid them at all costs.

-Cross reference everything; reps usernames, crypto wallet addresses, server/group invite links, prices, everything. Everything must match up.

-Socialise; just talk to people. I recommend staying & talking in a vendor server/group for 1 week minimum before you place you order. Not only does this insure the validity of the vendor (via questions), it also opens up new opportunities, such as: group- buys, testing servers, and community hangouts.

The aforementioned should almost guarantee your safety, and you should never make any exceptions.
-larping skills
The majority of people reading this thread are most likely under the age of 18, I'd even bet some of you are below 16.

It should go without saying; it's crucial you  never reveal your real age to anyone within these spaces. Most of these spaces are populated with 25 year old pseudo-biohackers & 40 year old fat mothers.

Not only is it awkward, you'll also be shunned for using peptides while being so young.

So, larp older; use "🤣, 😂, 😅, 😱" emojis when acceptable, avoid excessive abbreviation (Ts, yh, ssa, k, y, aight/ight, bro) & avoid using slang. Ideally, you'll keep quiet when age-related discussions are happening, or anything else that might jeopardise your cover.

Part 3/5: getting started.

Now that I've listed everything you'll need, let's get started.
The best beginner/intermediate- level friendly place to begin with is: GLP-1 forum

View attachment 24388

They have:
-A wide selection of trustworthy vendors
-Helpful user base
-Many good beginners threads regarding peptides/aspects of the grey market
-extensive moderation
-And much more.

There's plenty of well-known & trusted vendors you'll find on this forum, but, i can't help but recommend

JEEP
For your standard peptides. I've explained why extensively in the attached link (click JEEP)

Another extremely helpful website is:

Stair way to grey
View attachment 24397

Though, they can be more confusing than GLP-1 forum, so I'd recommend not starting there.

Part 4/5: valid pricing & good practice


Here's some industry-standard pricing, if a vendors price list is much more expensive or cheaper than this, they're most likely overcharging/scamming you. So proceed with caution.
Do note: one "kit" is 10 vials.



Vendors should have atleast 10 COAs linked on their group/server. And, they should ideally have 3rd party tests aswell. Janoshik is the go to for testing, so if they've tested with someone else, i wouldn't go with them.
Also, their purity should be 99%< on all peptides, no matter what.



Part 5/5: Group buys and group testing

Group buys are when multiple people get together (typically 10-20) to order peptides together. This beneficial due to: cheaper pricing, testing, and community.

Group tests work a similar way, though they're usually done on products that have already been bought.

Normally, people choose one batch of a peptide to test, send in a vial from that batch, chip-in 25-30 dollars, and wait for the results. And in some cases, you may receive credit for testing (JEEP is notorious for this) since of course, testing benefits both party's.

But there are alot of group-buy scams occurring at the moment, so practice what i said before, and be very careful with who you send your money to. This is also why i recommend being active in vendor servers/groups; getting to know these people, and vice versa. These groups are usually pretty restricted, now more than ever.


Conclusion + tips & tricks.


Well boyos, we're nearing the end now. I'll go over some common myths/misconceptions quickly before the end. This won't necessarily be about the grey market, but more about peptides in general.

-"Tilt the vial when injecting bac water" myth; janoshik debunked this. Along with the fact that unreconstituted last for only 1-2 years, when in reality, they last for 5+ years at room temperature perfectly, not to even mention refrigeration.

-"Domestic peptides have better quality control" myth; they all come from china JFL.

-"Chinese peptides are a scam" nope; you're just uneducated, retarded, or racist.

-"Peptides from china are dangerous!" Yeah ok eli lilly; corporate propaganda.

-"You need to freeze peptides if you plan on storing them for 2+ years" myth; i just went over this.

That's it boyos



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Part 1/5: the introduction to the grey market.


something you've bound to have heard during your time in the looksmaxing — PSL autist community is the "grey market". More specifically, the "Chinese grey market". Now, what actually is the Chinese grey market? Well, the Chinese grey market is where all "research-chemical" grade peptides come from; peptides you buy via websites & WhatsApp/telegram groups.

It gets it's name from it's legal status; it's neither legal nor illegal, It's just about in the middle. Hence, "grey market". And no, for most people viewing this thread, it isn't illegal to purchase these peptides. When it comes to the western world, it's common that you'll not be prosecuted for purchasing peptides. Though, this is subject to change; ask around in STG or glp-1 forum (more on them later) to find out your specific legal situation.


Part 2/5: what you'll need to continue on with your journey


Here I'll list some things that you'll need to navigate & use the grey market ⬇

-300 dollars minimum
Because that's the standard minimum order amount to qualify for free shipping. "But saaaar, what if i can't afford that much?" Then get
off my thread you filthy peasant.
View attachment 24352
-Non custodial crypto wallet
Well, when using custodial crypto wallets, you're risking the transaction being flagged, sometimes resulting your funds lost. The reason why is because these corpos don't approve of your money being spent in the grey market. However, using non-custodial crypto wallets puts you in charge; no withholding. Though, this does mean there is no way to recover your account if you lose your details. So make sure to write your codes/passwords down on paper only. Also, I'd recommend using bitcoin. Most would recommend stable coins, but it isn't worth the hassle and risk, so just include 10 dollars more to cover any fluctuations that may occur.
-Scam awareness
Scam awareness is one of the most important things you'll need to practice while navigating the grey market. It is full of scammers; for every vendor server, 2-5 scammers will be likely to lurk within, preying on new members.
To avoid being some basement-dwelling faggots next victim:

-Keep in mind vendors never reach out to you; they'll never message first.
If one does, there's a 99% likelihood it's a scammer, so avoid them at all costs.

-Cross reference everything; reps usernames, crypto wallet addresses, server/group invite links, prices, everything. Everything must match up.

-Socialise; just talk to people. I recommend staying & talking in a vendor server/group for 1 week minimum before you place you order. Not only does this insure the validity of the vendor (via questions), it also opens up new opportunities, such as: group- buys, testing servers, and community hangouts.

The aforementioned should almost guarantee your safety, and you should never make any exceptions.
-larping skills
The majority of people reading this thread are most likely under the age of 18, I'd even bet some of you are below 16.

It should go without saying; it's crucial you  never reveal your real age to anyone within these spaces. Most of these spaces are populated with 25 year old pseudo-biohackers & 40 year old fat mothers.

Not only is it awkward, you'll also be shunned for using peptides while being so young.

So, larp older; use "🤣, 😂, 😅, 😱" emojis when acceptable, avoid excessive abbreviation (Ts, yh, ssa, k, y, aight/ight, bro) & avoid using slang. Ideally, you'll keep quiet when age-related discussions are happening, or anything else that might jeopardise your cover.

Part 3/5: getting started.

Now that I've listed everything you'll need, let's get started.
The best beginner/intermediate- level friendly place to begin with is: GLP-1 forum

View attachment 24388

They have:
-A wide selection of trustworthy vendors
-Helpful user base
-Many good beginners threads regarding peptides/aspects of the grey market
-extensive moderation
-And much more.

There's plenty of well-known & trusted vendors you'll find on this forum, but, i can't help but recommend

JEEP
For your standard peptides. I've explained why extensively in the attached link (click JEEP)

Another extremely helpful website is:

Stair way to grey
View attachment 24397

Though, they can be more confusing than GLP-1 forum, so I'd recommend not starting there.

Part 4/5: valid pricing & good practice


Here's some industry-standard pricing, if a vendors price list is much more expensive or cheaper than this, they're most likely overcharging/scamming you. So proceed with caution.
Do note: one "kit" is 10 vials.



Vendors should have atleast 10 COAs linked on their group/server. And, they should ideally have 3rd party tests aswell. Janoshik is the go to for testing, so if they've tested with someone else, i wouldn't go with them.
Also, their purity should be 99%< on all peptides, no matter what.



Part 5/5: Group buys and group testing

Group buys are when multiple people get together (typically 10-20) to order peptides together. This beneficial due to: cheaper pricing, testing, and community.

Group tests work a similar way, though they're usually done on products that have already been bought.

Normally, people choose one batch of a peptide to test, send in a vial from that batch, chip-in 25-30 dollars, and wait for the results. And in some cases, you may receive credit for testing (JEEP is notorious for this) since of course, testing benefits both party's.

But there are alot of group-buy scams occurring at the moment, so practice what i said before, and be very careful with who you send your money to. This is also why i recommend being active in vendor servers/groups; getting to know these people, and vice versa. These groups are usually pretty restricted, now more than ever.


Conclusion + tips & tricks.


Well boyos, we're nearing the end now. I'll go over some common myths/misconceptions quickly before the end. This won't necessarily be about the grey market, but more about peptides in general.

-"Tilt the vial when injecting bac water" myth; janoshik debunked this. Along with the fact that unreconstituted last for only 1-2 years, when in reality, they last for 5+ years at room temperature perfectly, not to even mention refrigeration.

-"Domestic peptides have better quality control" myth; they all come from china JFL.

-"Chinese peptides are a scam" nope; you're just uneducated, retarded, or racist.

-"Peptides from china are dangerous!" Yeah ok eli lilly; corporate propaganda.

-"You need to freeze peptides if you plan on storing them for 2+ years" myth; i just went over this.

That's it boyos



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Part 1/5: the introduction to the grey market.


something you've bound to have heard during your time in the looksmaxing — PSL autist community is the "grey market". More specifically, the "Chinese grey market". Now, what actually is the Chinese grey market? Well, the Chinese grey market is where all "research-chemical" grade peptides come from; peptides you buy via websites & WhatsApp/telegram groups.

It gets it's name from it's legal status; it's neither legal nor illegal, It's just about in the middle. Hence, "grey market". And no, for most people viewing this thread, it isn't illegal to purchase these peptides. When it comes to the western world, it's common that you'll not be prosecuted for purchasing peptides. Though, this is subject to change; ask around in STG or glp-1 forum (more on them later) to find out your specific legal situation.


Part 2/5: what you'll need to continue on with your journey


Here I'll list some things that you'll need to navigate & use the grey market ⬇

-300 dollars minimum
Because that's the standard minimum order amount to qualify for free shipping. "But saaaar, what if i can't afford that much?" Then get
off my thread you filthy peasant.
View attachment 24352
-Non custodial crypto wallet
Well, when using custodial crypto wallets, you're risking the transaction being flagged, sometimes resulting your funds lost. The reason why is because these corpos don't approve of your money being spent in the grey market. However, using non-custodial crypto wallets puts you in charge; no withholding. Though, this does mean there is no way to recover your account if you lose your details. So make sure to write your codes/passwords down on paper only. Also, I'd recommend using bitcoin. Most would recommend stable coins, but it isn't worth the hassle and risk, so just include 10 dollars more to cover any fluctuations that may occur.
-Scam awareness
Scam awareness is one of the most important things you'll need to practice while navigating the grey market. It is full of scammers; for every vendor server, 2-5 scammers will be likely to lurk within, preying on new members.
To avoid being some basement-dwelling faggots next victim:

-Keep in mind vendors never reach out to you; they'll never message first.
If one does, there's a 99% likelihood it's a scammer, so avoid them at all costs.

-Cross reference everything; reps usernames, crypto wallet addresses, server/group invite links, prices, everything. Everything must match up.

-Socialise; just talk to people. I recommend staying & talking in a vendor server/group for 1 week minimum before you place you order. Not only does this insure the validity of the vendor (via questions), it also opens up new opportunities, such as: group- buys, testing servers, and community hangouts.

The aforementioned should almost guarantee your safety, and you should never make any exceptions.
-larping skills
The majority of people reading this thread are most likely under the age of 18, I'd even bet some of you are below 16.

It should go without saying; it's crucial you  never reveal your real age to anyone within these spaces. Most of these spaces are populated with 25 year old pseudo-biohackers & 40 year old fat mothers.

Not only is it awkward, you'll also be shunned for using peptides while being so young.

So, larp older; use "🤣, 😂, 😅, 😱" emojis when acceptable, avoid excessive abbreviation (Ts, yh, ssa, k, y, aight/ight, bro) & avoid using slang. Ideally, you'll keep quiet when age-related discussions are happening, or anything else that might jeopardise your cover.

Part 3/5: getting started.

Now that I've listed everything you'll need, let's get started.
The best beginner/intermediate- level friendly place to begin with is: GLP-1 forum

View attachment 24388

They have:
-A wide selection of trustworthy vendors
-Helpful user base
-Many good beginners threads regarding peptides/aspects of the grey market
-extensive moderation
-And much more.

There's plenty of well-known & trusted vendors you'll find on this forum, but, i can't help but recommend

JEEP
For your standard peptides. I've explained why extensively in the attached link (click JEEP)

Another extremely helpful website is:

Stair way to grey
View attachment 24397

Though, they can be more confusing than GLP-1 forum, so I'd recommend not starting there.

Part 4/5: valid pricing & good practice


Here's some industry-standard pricing, if a vendors price list is much more expensive or cheaper than this, they're most likely overcharging/scamming you. So proceed with caution.
Do note: one "kit" is 10 vials.



Vendors should have atleast 10 COAs linked on their group/server. And, they should ideally have 3rd party tests aswell. Janoshik is the go to for testing, so if they've tested with someone else, i wouldn't go with them.
Also, their purity should be 99%< on all peptides, no matter what.



Part 5/5: Group buys and group testing

Group buys are when multiple people get together (typically 10-20) to order peptides together. This beneficial due to: cheaper pricing, testing, and community.

Group tests work a similar way, though they're usually done on products that have already been bought.

Normally, people choose one batch of a peptide to test, send in a vial from that batch, chip-in 25-30 dollars, and wait for the results. And in some cases, you may receive credit for testing (JEEP is notorious for this) since of course, testing benefits both party's.

But there are alot of group-buy scams occurring at the moment, so practice what i said before, and be very careful with who you send your money to. This is also why i recommend being active in vendor servers/groups; getting to know these people, and vice versa. These groups are usually pretty restricted, now more than ever.


Conclusion + tips & tricks.


Well boyos, we're nearing the end now. I'll go over some common myths/misconceptions quickly before the end. This won't necessarily be about the grey market, but more about peptides in general.

-"Tilt the vial when injecting bac water" myth; janoshik debunked this. Along with the fact that unreconstituted last for only 1-2 years, when in reality, they last for 5+ years at room temperature perfectly, not to even mention refrigeration.

-"Domestic peptides have better quality control" myth; they all come from china JFL.

-"Chinese peptides are a scam" nope; you're just uneducated, retarded, or racist.

-"Peptides from china are dangerous!" Yeah ok eli lilly; corporate propaganda.

-"You need to freeze peptides if you plan on storing them for 2+ years" myth; i just went over this.

That's it boyos



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Part 1/5: the introduction to the grey market.


something you've bound to have heard during your time in the looksmaxing — PSL autist community is the "grey market". More specifically, the "Chinese grey market". Now, what actually is the Chinese grey market? Well, the Chinese grey market is where all "research-chemical" grade peptides come from; peptides you buy via websites & WhatsApp/telegram groups.

It gets it's name from it's legal status; it's neither legal nor illegal, It's just about in the middle. Hence, "grey market". And no, for most people viewing this thread, it isn't illegal to purchase these peptides. When it comes to the western world, it's common that you'll not be prosecuted for purchasing peptides. Though, this is subject to change; ask around in STG or glp-1 forum (more on them later) to find out your specific legal situation.


Part 2/5: what you'll need to continue on with your journey


Here I'll list some things that you'll need to navigate & use the grey market ⬇

-300 dollars minimum
Because that's the standard minimum order amount to qualify for free shipping. "But saaaar, what if i can't afford that much?" Then get
off my thread you filthy peasant.
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-Non custodial crypto wallet
Well, when using custodial crypto wallets, you're risking the transaction being flagged, sometimes resulting your funds lost. The reason why is because these corpos don't approve of your money being spent in the grey market. However, using non-custodial crypto wallets puts you in charge; no withholding. Though, this does mean there is no way to recover your account if you lose your details. So make sure to write your codes/passwords down on paper only. Also, I'd recommend using bitcoin. Most would recommend stable coins, but it isn't worth the hassle and risk, so just include 10 dollars more to cover any fluctuations that may occur.
-Scam awareness
Scam awareness is one of the most important things you'll need to practice while navigating the grey market. It is full of scammers; for every vendor server, 2-5 scammers will be likely to lurk within, preying on new members.
To avoid being some basement-dwelling faggots next victim:

-Keep in mind vendors never reach out to you; they'll never message first.
If one does, there's a 99% likelihood it's a scammer, so avoid them at all costs.

-Cross reference everything; reps usernames, crypto wallet addresses, server/group invite links, prices, everything. Everything must match up.

-Socialise; just talk to people. I recommend staying & talking in a vendor server/group for 1 week minimum before you place you order. Not only does this insure the validity of the vendor (via questions), it also opens up new opportunities, such as: group- buys, testing servers, and community hangouts.

The aforementioned should almost guarantee your safety, and you should never make any exceptions.
-larping skills
The majority of people reading this thread are most likely under the age of 18, I'd even bet some of you are below 16.

It should go without saying; it's crucial you  never reveal your real age to anyone within these spaces. Most of these spaces are populated with 25 year old pseudo-biohackers & 40 year old fat mothers.

Not only is it awkward, you'll also be shunned for using peptides while being so young.

So, larp older; use "🤣, 😂, 😅, 😱" emojis when acceptable, avoid excessive abbreviation (Ts, yh, ssa, k, y, aight/ight, bro) & avoid using slang. Ideally, you'll keep quiet when age-related discussions are happening, or anything else that might jeopardise your cover.

Part 3/5: getting started.

Now that I've listed everything you'll need, let's get started.
The best beginner/intermediate- level friendly place to begin with is: GLP-1 forum

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They have:
-A wide selection of trustworthy vendors
-Helpful user base
-Many good beginners threads regarding peptides/aspects of the grey market
-extensive moderation
-And much more.

There's plenty of well-known & trusted vendors you'll find on this forum, but, i can't help but recommend

JEEP
For your standard peptides. I've explained why extensively in the attached link (click JEEP)

Another extremely helpful website is:

Stair way to grey
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Though, they can be more confusing than GLP-1 forum, so I'd recommend not starting there.

Part 4/5: valid pricing & good practice


Here's some industry-standard pricing, if a vendors price list is much more expensive or cheaper than this, they're most likely overcharging/scamming you. So proceed with caution.
Do note: one "kit" is 10 vials.



Vendors should have atleast 10 COAs linked on their group/server. And, they should ideally have 3rd party tests aswell. Janoshik is the go to for testing, so if they've tested with someone else, i wouldn't go with them.
Also, their purity should be 99%< on all peptides, no matter what.



Part 5/5: Group buys and group testing

Group buys are when multiple people get together (typically 10-20) to order peptides together. This beneficial due to: cheaper pricing, testing, and community.

Group tests work a similar way, though they're usually done on products that have already been bought.

Normally, people choose one batch of a peptide to test, send in a vial from that batch, chip-in 25-30 dollars, and wait for the results. And in some cases, you may receive credit for testing (JEEP is notorious for this) since of course, testing benefits both party's.

But there are alot of group-buy scams occurring at the moment, so practice what i said before, and be very careful with who you send your money to. This is also why i recommend being active in vendor servers/groups; getting to know these people, and vice versa. These groups are usually pretty restricted, now more than ever.


Conclusion + tips & tricks.


Well boyos, we're nearing the end now. I'll go over some common myths/misconceptions quickly before the end. This won't necessarily be about the grey market, but more about peptides in general.

-"Tilt the vial when injecting bac water" myth; janoshik debunked this. Along with the fact that unreconstituted last for only 1-2 years, when in reality, they last for 5+ years at room temperature perfectly, not to even mention refrigeration.

-"Domestic peptides have better quality control" myth; they all come from china JFL.

-"Chinese peptides are a scam" nope; you're just uneducated, retarded, or racist.

-"Peptides from china are dangerous!" Yeah ok eli lilly; corporate propaganda.

-"You need to freeze peptides if you plan on storing them for 2+ years" myth; i just went over this.

That's it boyos



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