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Can u ascend without roids?

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Yeah
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physique wise? not really, plus it would take ages.
 

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Yes
 

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Yeah, ascending is basically having good health indicators (you can do more but that the main objetive)

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Yeah, ascending is basically having good health indicators (you can do more but that the main objetive)

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how to enhance ur appearence without roids....
 

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Yeah, ascending is basically having good health indicators (you can do more but that the main objetive)

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How?
 

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Around How much time?
years, can't say for sure, just so you have a ref, at most being natty u can put around 20-40lbs and the crazy natty outliers can put around 50lbs, in extremely rare cases 60lbs, take into account achieving all of while being natty takes peak training, diet, discipline etc, im talking bodybuilder level dedication, now you can possibly gain all of this in a couple months with pharma, with proper dosing and ancillaries and care, the risk is def low, well, depends what your goals are, if your goal is just an aesthetic physique (similar to david laid or jeff seid) u dont have to blast grams of gear to achieve that build, but yeAH that's how brutal the advantage is taking into account how safe it really is to use pharma, and before u talk about bodybuilders who have died i really really doubt u are gonna blast 800 grams of tren during a whole year and 18IUs a day like rich.
 

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years, can't say for sure, just so you have a ref, at most being natty u can put around 20-40lbs and the crazy natty outliers can put around 50lbs, in extremely rare cases 60lbs, take into account achieving all of while being natty takes peak training, diet, discipline etc, im talking bodybuilder level dedication, now you can possibly gain all of this in a couple months with pharma, with proper dosing and ancillaries and care, the risk is def low, well, depends what your goals are, if your goal is just an aesthetic physique (similar to david laid or jeff seid) u dont have to blast grams of gear to achieve that build, but yeAH that's how brutal the advantage is taking into account how safe it really is to use pharma, and before u talk about bodybuilders who have died i really really doubt u are gonna blast 800 grams of tren during a whole year and 18IUs a day like rich.
Ur right..but im not talkin bout physique..im talkin bout my face
 

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You can but if you've had shit upbringing unnatural intervention is needed regardless, surgery isn't natural but still needed if for example you ate shit or are a mouth breather, nobody is to blame really you just have to deal with the cards you're dealt.
 

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You can but if you've had shit upbringing unnatural intervention is needed regardless, surgery isn't natural but still needed if for example you ate shit or are a mouth breather, nobody is to blame really you just have to deal with the cards you're dealt.
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I do skincare and shit but I'm not going to sit here and lie, if you need surgery you need surgery there's not much ways of going about it
 

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I used to use an adriana lima one back in lookism but it got boring
 

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Ur right..but im not talkin bout physique..im talkin bout my face
nha, the effects of roids for ascending facially are kinda overated, it's good for improving facial dimorphism but besides that they wont grow your bones crazy like you see on tt videos of ascensions, if you want those results go for fillers or implants.
 

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I mean yes you can “acend” without roids but you would be missing out on so much better faster progress, because staying natural during puberty can only take you so far, but roids can help u be unrecognizable
 

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