[itisneverover]

cant even imagine that you hang out with people I hate my life

 

[TheAlphaMale]

cant even imagine that you hang out with people I hate my life

Are you always alone or just ugly

 

[itisneverover]

Are you always alone or just ugly

I cant tell you if I'm ugly if I say I'm ugly I may be larping and if I say im not I may be egotistical

 

[TheAlphaMale]

I cant tell you if I'm ugly if I say I'm ugly I may be larping and if I say im not I may be egotistical

Well what do you think you are

 

[Jj61]

I cant tell you if I'm ugly if I say I'm ugly I may be larping and if I say im not I may be egotistical

Just be honest and objective

 

[itisneverover]

Just be honest and objective

Well what do you think you are

I mean the thing is I don't look disgusting or deformed except for some mild acne
I'm a bit high in bodyfat around 20% but I'm working on it I'm on 700 cals a day right now just lean proteins and supplements
I'm 5 foot 8 so its over ig but I'll get LL later in life

idk I have normal Zygos a lot of UEE mid-to poor under eye support, jawline is decent from years ago when I wasn't fat so I know that should be fine, idk i have invisaling in rn too but teeth are mostly straight
normal palette
maxilla slightly behind chin

 

[Jj61]

I mean the thing is I don't look disgusting or deformed except for some mild acne
I'm a bit high in bodyfat around 20% but I'm working on it I'm on 700 cals a day right now just lean proteins and supplements
I'm 5 foot 8 so its over ig but I'll get LL later in life

idk I have normal Zygos a lot of UEE mid-to poor under eye support, jawline is decent from years ago when I wasn't fat so I know that should be fine, idk i have invisaling in rn too but teeth are mostly straight
normal palette
maxilla slightly behind chin

Jesus dude you are retarded.


700kcals is not enough especially from lean meats? Like Jesus get a proper diet you don’t need to cut that extreme

 

[itisneverover]

Jesus dude you are retarded.


700kcals is not enough especially from lean meats? Like Jesus get a proper diet you don’t need to cut that extreme

I'm not retarted I understand muscle physiology way better than all of you grey incel larpers. name exactly why 700 cals are too little and I'll propose a counterargument

stop listening to fat disgusting body positive hypergamous foids that do nothing but try to bring us incels even further down with them I fucking hate all of those fucking beckys

edit: sorry that was mean, you seem like a nice guy I didn't mean to call you a grey larper. but I would still like to hear your thoughts and we need to stick together

 

[TheAlphaMale]

I'm not retarted I understand muscle physiology way better than all of you grey incel larpers. name exactly why 700 cals are too little and I'll propose a counterargument

stop listening to fat disgusting body positive hypergamous foids that do nothing but try to bring us incels even further down with them I fucking hate all of those fucking beckys

edit: sorry that was mean, you seem like a nice guy I didn't mean to call you a grey larper. but I would still like to hear your thoughts and we need to stick together

Why dont you just do a water fast isnt that more effective?

 

[itisneverover]

Why dont you just do a water fast isnt that more effective?

hell no, you lose tons of lean mass so body composition stays the same.

if you have the requiste protein in your diet and resistance train your muscle mass really doesent significantly change especially at higher bodyfats regardless of total calories

 

[itisneverover]

hell no, you lose tons of lean mass so body composition stays the same.

if you have the requiste protein in your diet and resistance train your muscle mass really doesent significantly change especially at higher bodyfats regardless of total calories

water fasting is pseudoscience

 

[Jj61]

I'm not retarted I understand muscle physiology way better than all of you grey incel larpers. name exactly why 700 cals are too little and I'll propose a counterargument

stop listening to fat disgusting body positive hypergamous foids that do nothing but try to bring us incels even further down with them I fucking hate all of those fucking beckys

edit: sorry that was mean, you seem like a nice guy I didn't mean to call you a grey larper. but I would still like to hear your thoughts and we need to stick together

All good bro


But

With 700kcals (I assume your doing some sort of carnivore or low carb diet) just based on quick math your likely lacking fat or protein or both on a daily basis. I don’t know how much you weigh tho so maybe I’m wrong. Low fat messes with hormones

 

[itisneverover]

All good bro


But

With 700kcals (I assume your doing some sort of carnivore or low carb diet) just based on quick math your likely lacking fat or protein or both on a daily basis. I don’t know how much you weigh tho so maybe I’m wrong. Low fat messes with hormones

no its called PSMF, the protein sparing modified fast. its a fast, but we spare protein, which is protective of lean mass

lets have the breakdown I am a 190 lb male. my protein requirement is 0.73 x 190 = 138.7 grams per day
what is this caloric equivalent?

554.8 calories of actual food

why the 700 I mentioned then? in reality its like 700-800, but whatever
there are trace fats in protein foods like chicken has a tiny bit of fat

I supplement extensively to support hormonal function. while hormonal function is impeded on a cut, the effects can be mitigated. I consume 5g of fish oil daily, high dose melatonin, take l-carnitine, ofc creatine, and more which help to regulate my hormonal function

carnivore diet is cope to be honest

 

[Jj61]

no its called PSMF, the protein sparing modified fast. its a fast, but we spare protein, which is protective of lean mass

lets have the breakdown I am a 190 lb male. my protein requirement is 0.73 x 190 = 138.7 grams per day
what is this caloric equivalent?

554.8 calories of actual food

why the 700 I mentioned then? in reality its like 700-800, but whatever
there are trace fats in protein foods like chicken has a tiny bit of fat

I supplement extensively to support hormonal function. while hormonal function is impeded on a cut, the effects can be mitigated. I consume 5g of fish oil daily, high dose melatonin, take l-carnitine, ofc creatine, and more which help to regulate my hormonal function

carnivore diet is cope to be honest

That makes more sense than. I’ve never heard of that. It’s clear you’ve thought this through and if it’s working hey, it’s working. TBH when I hear 700 calories I assume it’s some retarded ED girl who thinks me eat 700 kcals me skinny.

Yeah carnivore diet is mostly cope. I eat mostly meat but how can you tell me a fucking kiwi or strawberries are unhealthy and is going to make me uglier in any way shape or form.

Two more questions tho.

1. How do you feel? Like do you feel energized or do you feel like shit (brain fog, poor athletic perfromance (I think you said you workout right? Idk)).

2. How are your health indicators? Do you have acne? Is your face puffy?

No judgement I’m just curious because I’ve never heard of anything like this b4

 

[itisneverover]

That makes more sense than. I’ve never heard of that. It’s clear you’ve thought this through and if it’s working hey, it’s working. TBH when I hear 700 calories I assume it’s some retarded ED girl who thinks me eat 700 kcals me skinny.

Yeah carnivore diet is mostly cope. I eat mostly meat but how can you tell me a fucking kiwi or strawberries are unhealthy.

Two more questions tho.

1. How do you feel? Like do you feel energized or do you feel like shit (brain fog, poor athletic perfromance (I think you said you workout right? Idk)).

2. How are your health indicators? Do you have acne? Is your face puffy?

No judgement I’m just curious because I’ve never heard of anything like this b4

yeah for the thing with the ED girl is usually a suicidal foid with nothing in her life, so she wants attention through starving herself. in addition these ed dieters eat like 700 cals worth of some random food instead of consuming amino acids so yeah

1. I feel amazing on this diet no brain fog no nothing because of no fullness and no spikes. after a week I stopped feeling hungry as ghrelin died down. athleticism is heavily stunted as I have extremely low glycogen all the time

2. idk what you mean by health indicators, but acne is going away with tret but no more flare ups whatsoever. this diet is the best debloat diet every because there's no food to cause bloat its hard to consume excess sodium and I add potassium powder (noSalt brand) to everything so I'm chilling

 

[Jj61]

yeah for the thing with the ED girl is usually a suicidal foid with nothing in her life, so she wants attention through starving herself. in addition these ed dieters eat like 700 cals worth of some random food instead of consuming amino acids so yeah

1. I feel amazing on this diet no brain fog no nothing because of no fullness and no spikes. after a week I stopped feeling hungry as ghrelin died down. athleticism is heavily stunted as I have extremely low glycogen all the time

2. idk what you mean by health indicators, but acne is going away with tret but no more flare ups whatsoever. this diet is the best debloat diet every because there's no food to cause bloat its hard to consume excess sodium and I add potassium powder (noSalt brand) to everything so I'm chilling

Yeah that’s what I figured for athleticism.

Health indicators is pretty much how healthy or unhealthy someone looks. Do you look healthy? Than you have good health indicators. Personally mine are very bad it’s a big big flaw of mine.

My last question is the sustainability of this diet. Clearly, it’s not sustainable after you lose your fat, but do you think you will change it as you lose more weight? And what is your plan after you lose the weight? What diet will you follow then

 

[Gigel]

complete babble

 

[itisneverover]

complete babble

why? can you provide a reason or are you just going off what an authoritative figure said?