[mysticx]

I'm a late bloomer (puberty started noticeably later than average; not going to get into a lot of details, but voice deepening, body hair, etc.). A lot of people here and on org say that E2 is what closes growth plates, but you also need E2 for proper GH IGF1 signaling and linear growth. So too little E2 = low growth velocity. Too much E2 (especially with high IGF1) = faster bone age progression + fusion. How much AI should I take, if any at all? I bought some, but the information out there for this shit is so vague. Has anyone ran an AI during puberty here without test just on HGH? If you have done this before or seen it done, what tanner stage did you start using an AI + HGH? What happened to your growth (did you grow more cm after starting, or did it stall)? Any side effects like libido, joints, energy, etc. I'm aware E2 isn't something you can just nuke because niggas on TikTok said “broo AI + HGH is the method”. If anyone did this, please tell me how you did it and if it was worth it.

 

[mysticx]

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[Mandy]

You generally don’t want to play with AI’s if you’re not on test.

 

[VelocityAnt1]

Kinda related to your thread but could I be a late bloomer if I started having some armpits hair at 18?

 

[mysticx]

Kinda related to your thread but could I be a late bloomer if I started having some armpits hair at 18?

It depends tbh. You need multiple signs of late puberty happening at once.

 

[Mandy]

GH is so retarded alone with AI on no test. Do your research about GH synergy compounds such as Insulin,T4 and Anavar etc.

 

[Jaeger]

Kinda related to your thread but could I be a late bloomer if I started having some armpits hair at 18?

not really dependent on hair could be that you re of a lineage with sparse hair more important is when hormones started to kick in, voice cracks ejaculation and so on

 

[Mandy]

Even if you manage to inhibit the Aromatese enzyme,the co factor localized estradiol enzymes in the epiphyseal plate will upregulate and compensation for the lack of aromatization,such as HSD17B1, 7 and 4. This way the lack of Aromatese will be compensated by e1->e2 conversion. After a while this conversion can downregulate and eventually cause your chondrocytes to slow down proliferation. AI is so cope for prolonging fusion,just literally get tamoxifen 20mg.

 

[VelocityAnt1]

not really dependent on hair could be that you re of a lineage with sparse hair more important is when hormones started to kick in, voice cracks ejaculation and so on

Recently I started having oily hair(before it took me 2 days for oil to build up now only 1 to get giga oily), Thickening of my facial hairs, Allat of eyelashes and denser eyebrows(never seen someone in family with it), hair developping everywhere on my body and getting thicker and longer. No voice crack and the size of my ejaculation are more voluminous(could be anecdotal). I'm south-east asian so i'm a little bit perplexed with these growth cause other than south asian and west asian, idk any other ppl or ethnicities getting hair growth like me in asia.

 

[mysticx]

Recently I started having oily hair(before it took me 2 days for oil to build up now only 1 to get giga oily), Thickening of my facial hairs, Allat of eyelashes and denser eyebrows(never seen someone in family with it), hair developping everywhere on my body and getting thicker and longer. No voice crack and the size of my ejaculation are more voluminous(could be anecdotal). I'm south-east asian so i'm a little bit perplexed with these growth cause other than south asian and west asian, idk any other ppl or ethnicities getting hair growth like me in asia.

I'm SEA as well and have been experiencing similar symptoms

 

[Jaeger]

Recently I started having oily hair(before it took me 2 days for oil to build up now only 1 to get giga oily), Thickening of my facial hairs, Allat of eyelashes and denser eyebrows(never seen someone in family with it), hair developping everywhere on my body and getting thicker and longer. No voice crack and the size of my ejaculation are more voluminous(could be anecdotal). I'm south-east asian so i'm a little bit perplexed with these growth cause other than south asian and west asian, idk any other ppl or ethnicities getting hair growth like me in asia.

to me it looks like you could be beginning tanner 4 which means youre still in puberty, cause the semen "texture" changes are typical for tanner 3 late to beginning tanner 4 oil and sebum production also very common in that stage and hair getting thicker also textbook tanner 4. i think it also is important to note that average for tanner 4 western european population is like 14 to 17 and idk about southeastasians but probs similiar.

 

[VelocityAnt1]

Recently I started having oily hair(before it took me 2 days for oil to build up now only 1 to get giga oily), Thickening of my facial hairs, Allat of eyelashes and denser eyebrows(never seen someone in family with it), hair developping everywhere on my body and getting thicker and longer. No voice crack and the size of my ejaculation are more voluminous(could be anecdotal). I'm south-east asian so i'm a little bit perplexed with these growth cause other than south asian and west asian, idk any other ppl or ethnicities getting hair growth like me in asia.

I also got an inch of height recently (5"6 1month prior -5"7 now), i've seen that my height growth was very slow 14-18 (5"4-5"6). My father height is 4"7 and my mother is 4"9 but I reckon that they never attained there potential height.

Took their brothers and sisters height to calculate and I guess that i'll be around 5"8 or more(if they didn't get to their potential height)

Also thanks Jaeger, really appreciate your help.

 

[Jaeger]

I also got an inch of height recently (5"6 1month prior -5"7 now), i've seen that my height growth was very slow 14-18 (5"4-5"6). My father height is 4"7 and my mother is 4"9 but I reckon that they never attained there potential height.

Took their brothers and sisters height to calculate and I guess that i'll be around 5"8 or more(if they didn't get to their potential height)

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Also thanks Jaeger, really appreciate your help.

no problem bro thanks for following imma follow back yo and if you max everything out you could get to 5 10 in tanner 4 males could grow up to 4 inches maybe 5