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OP 5 months ago at just below 20% body fat, what rating?

Kakashi69

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Judging from 4th pic(front)I'd say somewhere in like like lmtn w good appeal.
Flaws I noticed were like
Unbalanced facial thirds
Philtrum to chin ratio
Slightly negative eye tilt

Bloated
Side profile looks good
 

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Judging from 4th pic(front)I'd say somewhere in like like lmtn w good appeal.
Flaws I noticed were like
Unbalanced lower thirds
Philtrum to chin ratio
Slightly negative eye tilt

Bloated
Side profile looks good
Valid i agree w all that, especially the unbalanced lower third. I’ve since improved the balance significantly and debloated the majority, dropping closer to 15-16% body fat has also helped a fair bit. Any idea how I can improve my philtrum to chin ratio and negative tilt? I think my cheekbones REALLY kill me
 

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Valid i agree w all that, especially the unbalanced lower third. I’ve since improved the balance significantly and debloated the majority, dropping closer to 15-16% body far has helped a fair bit. Any idea how to improve the philtrum to chin ratio and tilt? I think my cheekbones REALLY kill me
That's good to hear, for philtrum to chin I doubt there's natural way to fix it,but for your eyes i'd recommend oculi exercises to strengthen the eye region,most people would say it's cope but I think it does help in eye area but if you have a very bad negative tilt then only option would be canthoplasty as well. If you're young and get bonemass somehow that'll be great. Your cheekbones are decent not too bad so that'll work.
 

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That's good to hear, for philtrum to chin I doubt there's natural way to fix it,but for your eyes i'd recommend oculi exercises to strengthen the eye region,most people would say it's cope but I think it does help in eye area but if you have a very bad negative tilt then only option would be canthoplasty as well. If you're young and get bonemass somehow that'll be great as well. Your cheekbones are decent not too bad so that'll work.
Would a more projected and slightly more square chin be any help? I will try out the oculi exercises and see how it goes, in that photo I think the angle makes it look negative but irl it’s neutral to slight positive but I want improvement regardless. I think my cheekbones aren’t cooked but compared to other areas like eye area and skin quality they seem a standout weakness to me
 

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Would a more projected and slightly more square chin be any help? I will try out the oculi exercises and see how it goes, in that photo I think the angle makes it look negative but irl it’s neutral to slight positive but I want improvement regardless. I think my cheekbones aren’t cooked but compared to other areas like eye area and skin quality they seem a standout weakness to me
Definitely more projected and square chin are ideal but that shouldn't be ur priority as of now imo focus on the changes u can do first. Yuh I also think the tilt might be cuz of the angle but you can Js check it for urself and see, and idk I don't really see that of a big problem with cheekbones it's looks alright to me, idk why but the images are kinda blurry on my end so it's hard to tell , but yuh more prominent bones would be good 👍.
 

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Definitely more projected and square chin are ideal but that shouldn't be ur priority as of now imo focus on the changes u can do first. Yuh I also think the tilt might be cuz of the angle but you can Js check it for urself and see, and idk I don't really see that of a big problem with cheekbones it's looks alright to me, idk why but the images are kinda blurry on my end so it's hard to tell , but yuh more prominent bones would be good 👍.
Yeah I’ll stay with the debloat and aim to get 12% body fat by end of the year. Tilt isn’t like that irl thank god💀💀 so that’s something less to worry about lmao. True, i just think my cheekbones are bad because I’ve been told at 15-16% body fat that cheekbones are usually faintly visible but mine are not unless I cheek bite. No idea what happened to image quality 😭
 

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I’d say HLTN or LMTN. The side profile pics aren’t great for a rate but going off them I can tell you might have some chin recession. From the front you have a negative canthal tilt and also you look bloated. Also your chin is narrow and I think your lower third lacks bonemass overall.
 

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Yeah I’ll stay with the debloat and aim to get 12% body fat by end of the year. Tilt isn’t like that irl thank god💀💀 so that’s something less to worry about lmao. True, i just think my cheekbones are bad because I’ve been told at 15-16% body fat that cheekbones are usually faintly visible but mine are not unless I cheek bite. No idea what happened to image quality 😭
Yuh usually people get idea of Thier bone around 15-17% or minimum 14% but try getting to 12% it can pop abit.
 

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I’d say HLTN or LMTN. The side profile pics aren’t great for a rate but going off them I can tell you might have some chin recession. From the front you have a negative canthal tilt and also you look bloated. Also your chin is narrow and I think your lower third lacks bonemass overall.
I agree on the chin recession, since then I’ve managed to get my chin slightly ahead of my lips by 1-2mm. Bad angle for my tilt because irl it’s a faint positive no cope haha. Yeah i was defo bloated af back then, still more progress to be made now but compared to then I’m way less bloated and lower body fat too now. Anything I could do in order to improve chin width as that’s the only thing I’m unsure how I can improve without enhancements which I’d rather avoid tbh.
 

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Yuh usually people get idea of Thier bone around 15-17% or minimum 14% but try getting to 12% it can pop abit.
I’d say that’s the stage I’m at now since 2-3 months ago. I will try work towards 12% then hopefully I’ll have some visibility because anything would beat my current cheekbones 💀. What are my positives in these photos aside from side profile?
 

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I’d say that’s the stage I’m at now since 2-3 months ago. I will try work towards 12% then hopefully I’ll have some visibility because anything would beat my current cheekbones 💀. What are my positives in these photos aside from side profile?
I think u have decent halo, eyes color, good hair traits, I'd recommend you growing a full proper goatee with growing out your hair abit longer.
 

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I think u have decent halo, eyes color, good hair traits, I'd recommend you growing a full proper goatee with growing out your hair abit longer.
Appreciate it man, weirdly I’m actually growing out my goatee as of last week so that’s convenient. Hair I’ll do as well, it’s currently slightly longer than that
 

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Stop squinting and cheek biting, you look like an autist.
Cheek biting? 😭😭. If i was cheek biting you’d have seen my cheekbone lines visible lil bro. Sorry to break it to you but I’m not squinting
 

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