[morty]

THE ATHLETE TRAP: WHY SPORTS KILL ASCENSION


The "Just play sports bro" advice is bluepill bullshit. If your goal is ascending then, high volume sports are counterproductive. They spike cortisol, risk facial structural damage, and steal recovery resources from the only thing that matters: Hypertrophy and Facial Aesthetics.


I. THE CORTISOL AND AGING FACTOR


Endurance and high intensity interval sports keep your body in a chronic state of fight or flight. This is the enemy of the aesthetic face.​

1. The Cortisol Face Bloat


Mechanism: Extended cardio (soccer, basketball, distance running) chronically elevates cortisol. High cortisol causes water retention in the face (moon face) and breaks down collagen over time.


Result: Look at endurance runners versus bodybuilders. The runner often looks "gaunt" yet bloated with premature wrinkles. The bodybuilder manages stress to keep the skin tight.


2. Mouth Breathing Adaptation


Mechanism: When gasping for air during high intensity sports, you default to mouth breathing to get oxygen fast.


Result: Chronic mouth breathing, even for a few hours a day, reinforces poor oral posture. Over years, this can contribute to downward facial growth or a recessed chin, the exact opposite of what you are trying to achieve.

II. THE INJURY RISK (STRUCTURAL DAMAGE)


One mistake on the field can undo $20,000 worth of hardmaxxing or years of genetic luck. The risk to reward ratio is terrible.​

1. Facial Trauma


Risk: An elbow to the nose in basketball or a ball to the face in soccer.


Consequence: A deviated septum or broken nose creates instant asymmetry. Asymmetry is the primary killer of facial harmony. Once the cartilage is damaged, it rarely heals perfectly straight without expensive surgery (Rhinoplasty).


2. The Frame Killer (Joints)


Risk: ACL tears, ankle sprains, and rotator cuff injuries.


Consequence: You cannot train for width (clavicles/shoulders) if your shoulder is blown out from throwing. You cannot height max (posture/spine health) if your knees are destroyed from impact landings. Ascending requires a pristine skeleton to build muscle on.

III. THE PHYSIQUE MISMATCH


Athletes train for function. Ascenders train for form. These goals are mutually exclusive.​

1. The Blocky Core


Issue: Sports require core stability for changing direction. This builds the obliques and rectus abdominis heavily.


Aesthetic Fail: A thick core ruins your V Taper. To look aesthetic, you need broad shoulders and a tiny waist. Sports give you a blocky, wide waist that makes your shoulders look narrower by comparison.


2. Lower Body Dominance


Issue: Soccer, hockey, and sprinting build massive legs and glutes.


Aesthetic Fail: While legs are good, T Rex Mode (huge legs, small upper body) is a fail. Your body has limited recovery resources. If your body is repairing your legs from 90 minutes of running, it isn't building your upper chest or medial delts.

IV. RESOURCE ALLOCATION (THE OPPORTUNITY COST)


Every calorie and hour spent on a sport is a calorie and hour NOT spent on specific aesthetic improvement.​

1. The Caloric Deficit Trap


The Math: Playing a match burns 800 to 1000 calories. To build muscle (bulking), you must eat in a surplus.


The Grind: Eating 4000 calories just to break even is miserable and expensive. It makes consistent hypertrophy almost impossible for "hard gainers." You stay skinny because you run too much.


2. Energy for Hardmaxxing


The Reality: If you spend Saturday exhausted from a game, you aren't working a side hustle to pay for braces, implants, or dermatological treatments. Sports are a time sink with zero financial ROI unless you are pro. Ascension requires capital.

Conclusion: Stop trying to be an athlete if you aren't one. If you want to ascend, treat your body like a sculpture, not a tool. Lift heavy weights for aesthetics, sleep for recovery, and protect your face from impact. Sports are for fun; gym is for status.​

 

[morty]

the truth exposed

 

[toothcel]

this is why short high intensity workouts are optimal

 

[morty]

this is why short high intensity workouts are optimal

exactly.

 

[Michael b]

THE ATHLETE TRAP: WHY SPORTS KILL ASCENSION


The "Just play sports bro" advice is bluepill bullshit. If your goal is ascending then, high volume sports are counterproductive. They spike cortisol, risk facial structural damage, and steal recovery resources from the only thing that matters: Hypertrophy and Facial Aesthetics.


I. THE CORTISOL AND AGING FACTOR


Endurance and high intensity interval sports keep your body in a chronic state of fight or flight. This is the enemy of the aesthetic face.​

1. The Cortisol Face Bloat


Mechanism: Extended cardio (soccer, basketball, distance running) chronically elevates cortisol. High cortisol causes water retention in the face (moon face) and breaks down collagen over time.


Result: Look at endurance runners versus bodybuilders. The runner often looks "gaunt" yet bloated with premature wrinkles. The bodybuilder manages stress to keep the skin tight.


2. Mouth Breathing Adaptation


Mechanism: When gasping for air during high intensity sports, you default to mouth breathing to get oxygen fast.


Result: Chronic mouth breathing, even for a few hours a day, reinforces poor oral posture. Over years, this can contribute to downward facial growth or a recessed chin, the exact opposite of what you are trying to achieve.

II. THE INJURY RISK (STRUCTURAL DAMAGE)


One mistake on the field can undo $20,000 worth of hardmaxxing or years of genetic luck. The risk to reward ratio is terrible.​

1. Facial Trauma


Risk: An elbow to the nose in basketball or a ball to the face in soccer.


Consequence: A deviated septum or broken nose creates instant asymmetry. Asymmetry is the primary killer of facial harmony. Once the cartilage is damaged, it rarely heals perfectly straight without expensive surgery (Rhinoplasty).


2. The Frame Killer (Joints)


Risk: ACL tears, ankle sprains, and rotator cuff injuries.


Consequence: You cannot train for width (clavicles/shoulders) if your shoulder is blown out from throwing. You cannot height max (posture/spine health) if your knees are destroyed from impact landings. Ascending requires a pristine skeleton to build muscle on.

III. THE PHYSIQUE MISMATCH


Athletes train for function. Ascenders train for form. These goals are mutually exclusive.​

1. The Blocky Core


Issue: Sports require core stability for changing direction. This builds the obliques and rectus abdominis heavily.


Aesthetic Fail: A thick core ruins your V Taper. To look aesthetic, you need broad shoulders and a tiny waist. Sports give you a blocky, wide waist that makes your shoulders look narrower by comparison.


2. Lower Body Dominance


Issue: Soccer, hockey, and sprinting build massive legs and glutes.


Aesthetic Fail: While legs are good, T Rex Mode (huge legs, small upper body) is a fail. Your body has limited recovery resources. If your body is repairing your legs from 90 minutes of running, it isn't building your upper chest or medial delts.

IV. RESOURCE ALLOCATION (THE OPPORTUNITY COST)


Every calorie and hour spent on a sport is a calorie and hour NOT spent on specific aesthetic improvement.​

1. The Caloric Deficit Trap


The Math: Playing a match burns 800 to 1000 calories. To build muscle (bulking), you must eat in a surplus.


The Grind: Eating 4000 calories just to break even is miserable and expensive. It makes consistent hypertrophy almost impossible for "hard gainers." You stay skinny because you run too much.


2. Energy for Hardmaxxing


The Reality: If you spend Saturday exhausted from a game, you aren't working a side hustle to pay for braces, implants, or dermatological treatments. Sports are a time sink with zero financial ROI unless you are pro. Ascension requires capital.

Conclusion: Stop trying to be an athlete if you aren't one. If you want to ascend, treat your body like a sculpture, not a tool. Lift heavy weights for aesthetics, sleep for recovery, and protect your face from impact. Sports are for fun; gym is for status.​

Last time I was wrestling in school last year it was kinda fun because of the trips and food but we were all overtraining like hell so almost everyone quit mid season and our coach was pissed. He was 5,6 manlet explains why.

 

[Z1gler7]

THE ATHLETE TRAP: WHY SPORTS KILL ASCENSION


The "Just play sports bro" advice is bluepill bullshit. If your goal is ascending then, high volume sports are counterproductive. They spike cortisol, risk facial structural damage, and steal recovery resources from the only thing that matters: Hypertrophy and Facial Aesthetics.


I. THE CORTISOL AND AGING FACTOR


Endurance and high intensity interval sports keep your body in a chronic state of fight or flight. This is the enemy of the aesthetic face.​

1. The Cortisol Face Bloat


Mechanism: Extended cardio (soccer, basketball, distance running) chronically elevates cortisol. High cortisol causes water retention in the face (moon face) and breaks down collagen over time.


Result: Look at endurance runners versus bodybuilders. The runner often looks "gaunt" yet bloated with premature wrinkles. The bodybuilder manages stress to keep the skin tight.


2. Mouth Breathing Adaptation


Mechanism: When gasping for air during high intensity sports, you default to mouth breathing to get oxygen fast.


Result: Chronic mouth breathing, even for a few hours a day, reinforces poor oral posture. Over years, this can contribute to downward facial growth or a recessed chin, the exact opposite of what you are trying to achieve.

II. THE INJURY RISK (STRUCTURAL DAMAGE)


One mistake on the field can undo $20,000 worth of hardmaxxing or years of genetic luck. The risk to reward ratio is terrible.​

1. Facial Trauma


Risk: An elbow to the nose in basketball or a ball to the face in soccer.


Consequence: A deviated septum or broken nose creates instant asymmetry. Asymmetry is the primary killer of facial harmony. Once the cartilage is damaged, it rarely heals perfectly straight without expensive surgery (Rhinoplasty).


2. The Frame Killer (Joints)


Risk: ACL tears, ankle sprains, and rotator cuff injuries.


Consequence: You cannot train for width (clavicles/shoulders) if your shoulder is blown out from throwing. You cannot height max (posture/spine health) if your knees are destroyed from impact landings. Ascending requires a pristine skeleton to build muscle on.

III. THE PHYSIQUE MISMATCH


Athletes train for function. Ascenders train for form. These goals are mutually exclusive.​

1. The Blocky Core


Issue: Sports require core stability for changing direction. This builds the obliques and rectus abdominis heavily.


Aesthetic Fail: A thick core ruins your V Taper. To look aesthetic, you need broad shoulders and a tiny waist. Sports give you a blocky, wide waist that makes your shoulders look narrower by comparison.


2. Lower Body Dominance


Issue: Soccer, hockey, and sprinting build massive legs and glutes.


Aesthetic Fail: While legs are good, T Rex Mode (huge legs, small upper body) is a fail. Your body has limited recovery resources. If your body is repairing your legs from 90 minutes of running, it isn't building your upper chest or medial delts.

IV. RESOURCE ALLOCATION (THE OPPORTUNITY COST)


Every calorie and hour spent on a sport is a calorie and hour NOT spent on specific aesthetic improvement.​

1. The Caloric Deficit Trap


The Math: Playing a match burns 800 to 1000 calories. To build muscle (bulking), you must eat in a surplus.


The Grind: Eating 4000 calories just to break even is miserable and expensive. It makes consistent hypertrophy almost impossible for "hard gainers." You stay skinny because you run too much.


2. Energy for Hardmaxxing


The Reality: If you spend Saturday exhausted from a game, you aren't working a side hustle to pay for braces, implants, or dermatological treatments. Sports are a time sink with zero financial ROI unless you are pro. Ascension requires capital.

Conclusion: Stop trying to be an athlete if you aren't one. If you want to ascend, treat your body like a sculpture, not a tool. Lift heavy weights for aesthetics, sleep for recovery, and protect your face from impact. Sports are for fun; gym is for status.​

this is why a bunch of like long distance runners and cross country runners are all chopped as fuck, unfortunately I've also played soccer my whole life up until last year

 

[Endo]

Let’s just ignore all the positives of cardio

THE ATHLETE TRAP: WHY SPORTS KILL ASCENSION


The "Just play sports bro" advice is bluepill bullshit. If your goal is ascending then, high volume sports are counterproductive. They spike cortisol, risk facial structural damage, and steal recovery resources from the only thing that matters: Hypertrophy and Facial Aesthetics.


I. THE CORTISOL AND AGING FACTOR


Endurance and high intensity interval sports keep your body in a chronic state of fight or flight. This is the enemy of the aesthetic face.​

1. The Cortisol Face Bloat


Mechanism: Extended cardio (soccer, basketball, distance running) chronically elevates cortisol. High cortisol causes water retention in the face (moon face) and breaks down collagen over time.


Result: Look at endurance runners versus bodybuilders. The runner often looks "gaunt" yet bloated with premature wrinkles. The bodybuilder manages stress to keep the skin tight.


2. Mouth Breathing Adaptation


Mechanism: When gasping for air during high intensity sports, you default to mouth breathing to get oxygen fast.


Result: Chronic mouth breathing, even for a few hours a day, reinforces poor oral posture. Over years, this can contribute to downward facial growth or a recessed chin, the exact opposite of what you are trying to achieve.

II. THE INJURY RISK (STRUCTURAL DAMAGE)


One mistake on the field can undo $20,000 worth of hardmaxxing or years of genetic luck. The risk to reward ratio is terrible.​

1. Facial Trauma


Risk: An elbow to the nose in basketball or a ball to the face in soccer.


Consequence: A deviated septum or broken nose creates instant asymmetry. Asymmetry is the primary killer of facial harmony. Once the cartilage is damaged, it rarely heals perfectly straight without expensive surgery (Rhinoplasty).


2. The Frame Killer (Joints)


Risk: ACL tears, ankle sprains, and rotator cuff injuries.


Consequence: You cannot train for width (clavicles/shoulders) if your shoulder is blown out from throwing. You cannot height max (posture/spine health) if your knees are destroyed from impact landings. Ascending requires a pristine skeleton to build muscle on.

III. THE PHYSIQUE MISMATCH


Athletes train for function. Ascenders train for form. These goals are mutually exclusive.​

1. The Blocky Core


Issue: Sports require core stability for changing direction. This builds the obliques and rectus abdominis heavily.


Aesthetic Fail: A thick core ruins your V Taper. To look aesthetic, you need broad shoulders and a tiny waist. Sports give you a blocky, wide waist that makes your shoulders look narrower by comparison.


2. Lower Body Dominance


Issue: Soccer, hockey, and sprinting build massive legs and glutes.


Aesthetic Fail: While legs are good, T Rex Mode (huge legs, small upper body) is a fail. Your body has limited recovery resources. If your body is repairing your legs from 90 minutes of running, it isn't building your upper chest or medial delts.

IV. RESOURCE ALLOCATION (THE OPPORTUNITY COST)


Every calorie and hour spent on a sport is a calorie and hour NOT spent on specific aesthetic improvement.​

1. The Caloric Deficit Trap


The Math: Playing a match burns 800 to 1000 calories. To build muscle (bulking), you must eat in a surplus.


The Grind: Eating 4000 calories just to break even is miserable and expensive. It makes consistent hypertrophy almost impossible for "hard gainers." You stay skinny because you run too much.


2. Energy for Hardmaxxing


The Reality: If you spend Saturday exhausted from a game, you aren't working a side hustle to pay for braces, implants, or dermatological treatments. Sports are a time sink with zero financial ROI unless you are pro. Ascension requires capital.

Conclusion: Stop trying to be an athlete if you aren't one. If you want to ascend, treat your body like a sculpture, not a tool. Lift heavy weights for aesthetics, sleep for recovery, and protect your face from impact. Sports are for fun; gym is for status.​

 

[Jj61]

I can always save for hardmax from 18-20
For now I’ll enjoy ski racing and make some of the best memories of my life with my friends. That is what you’re missing. Not saying your wrong from a physical standpoint

 

[Godveil Heir]

Sports are for peasants
Embrace LDARmaxxing

 

[Mentalcel]

Sports really are a tax on my soul but at the same time they're the only way I make friends and are an easy and fun way to work out. Plus I like it when I win.

 

[nickkkk]

sports are just the jews trying to get you to be active you should prevail and LDAR

 

[cas]

i just walk idk

 

[lowinhibmanlet]

THE ATHLETE TRAP: WHY SPORTS KILL ASCENSION


The "Just play sports bro" advice is bluepill bullshit. If your goal is ascending then, high volume sports are counterproductive. They spike cortisol, risk facial structural damage, and steal recovery resources from the only thing that matters: Hypertrophy and Facial Aesthetics.


I. THE CORTISOL AND AGING FACTOR


Endurance and high intensity interval sports keep your body in a chronic state of fight or flight. This is the enemy of the aesthetic face.​

1. The Cortisol Face Bloat


Mechanism: Extended cardio (soccer, basketball, distance running) chronically elevates cortisol. High cortisol causes water retention in the face (moon face) and breaks down collagen over time.


Result: Look at endurance runners versus bodybuilders. The runner often looks "gaunt" yet bloated with premature wrinkles. The bodybuilder manages stress to keep the skin tight.


2. Mouth Breathing Adaptation


Mechanism: When gasping for air during high intensity sports, you default to mouth breathing to get oxygen fast.


Result: Chronic mouth breathing, even for a few hours a day, reinforces poor oral posture. Over years, this can contribute to downward facial growth or a recessed chin, the exact opposite of what you are trying to achieve.

II. THE INJURY RISK (STRUCTURAL DAMAGE)


One mistake on the field can undo $20,000 worth of hardmaxxing or years of genetic luck. The risk to reward ratio is terrible.​

1. Facial Trauma


Risk: An elbow to the nose in basketball or a ball to the face in soccer.


Consequence: A deviated septum or broken nose creates instant asymmetry. Asymmetry is the primary killer of facial harmony. Once the cartilage is damaged, it rarely heals perfectly straight without expensive surgery (Rhinoplasty).


2. The Frame Killer (Joints)


Risk: ACL tears, ankle sprains, and rotator cuff injuries.


Consequence: You cannot train for width (clavicles/shoulders) if your shoulder is blown out from throwing. You cannot height max (posture/spine health) if your knees are destroyed from impact landings. Ascending requires a pristine skeleton to build muscle on.

III. THE PHYSIQUE MISMATCH


Athletes train for function. Ascenders train for form. These goals are mutually exclusive.​

1. The Blocky Core


Issue: Sports require core stability for changing direction. This builds the obliques and rectus abdominis heavily.


Aesthetic Fail: A thick core ruins your V Taper. To look aesthetic, you need broad shoulders and a tiny waist. Sports give you a blocky, wide waist that makes your shoulders look narrower by comparison.


2. Lower Body Dominance


Issue: Soccer, hockey, and sprinting build massive legs and glutes.


Aesthetic Fail: While legs are good, T Rex Mode (huge legs, small upper body) is a fail. Your body has limited recovery resources. If your body is repairing your legs from 90 minutes of running, it isn't building your upper chest or medial delts.

IV. RESOURCE ALLOCATION (THE OPPORTUNITY COST)


Every calorie and hour spent on a sport is a calorie and hour NOT spent on specific aesthetic improvement.​

1. The Caloric Deficit Trap


The Math: Playing a match burns 800 to 1000 calories. To build muscle (bulking), you must eat in a surplus.


The Grind: Eating 4000 calories just to break even is miserable and expensive. It makes consistent hypertrophy almost impossible for "hard gainers." You stay skinny because you run too much.


2. Energy for Hardmaxxing


The Reality: If you spend Saturday exhausted from a game, you aren't working a side hustle to pay for braces, implants, or dermatological treatments. Sports are a time sink with zero financial ROI unless you are pro. Ascension requires capital.

Conclusion: Stop trying to be an athlete if you aren't one. If you want to ascend, treat your body like a sculpture, not a tool. Lift heavy weights for aesthetics, sleep for recovery, and protect your face from impact. Sports are for fun; gym is for status.​

very true
u can literally see ngas descending each year of hs when others are ascending
freshman year the athletes usually mog but towards senior year the ones that look the best are the ngas who just chill and never played sports

 

[beckyslayer]

THE ATHLETE TRAP: WHY SPORTS KILL ASCENSION


The "Just play sports bro" advice is bluepill bullshit. If your goal is ascending then, high volume sports are counterproductive. They spike cortisol, risk facial structural damage, and steal recovery resources from the only thing that matters: Hypertrophy and Facial Aesthetics.


I. THE CORTISOL AND AGING FACTOR


Endurance and high intensity interval sports keep your body in a chronic state of fight or flight. This is the enemy of the aesthetic face.​

1. The Cortisol Face Bloat


Mechanism: Extended cardio (soccer, basketball, distance running) chronically elevates cortisol. High cortisol causes water retention in the face (moon face) and breaks down collagen over time.


Result: Look at endurance runners versus bodybuilders. The runner often looks "gaunt" yet bloated with premature wrinkles. The bodybuilder manages stress to keep the skin tight.


2. Mouth Breathing Adaptation


Mechanism: When gasping for air during high intensity sports, you default to mouth breathing to get oxygen fast.


Result: Chronic mouth breathing, even for a few hours a day, reinforces poor oral posture. Over years, this can contribute to downward facial growth or a recessed chin, the exact opposite of what you are trying to achieve.

II. THE INJURY RISK (STRUCTURAL DAMAGE)


One mistake on the field can undo $20,000 worth of hardmaxxing or years of genetic luck. The risk to reward ratio is terrible.​

1. Facial Trauma


Risk: An elbow to the nose in basketball or a ball to the face in soccer.


Consequence: A deviated septum or broken nose creates instant asymmetry. Asymmetry is the primary killer of facial harmony. Once the cartilage is damaged, it rarely heals perfectly straight without expensive surgery (Rhinoplasty).


2. The Frame Killer (Joints)


Risk: ACL tears, ankle sprains, and rotator cuff injuries.


Consequence: You cannot train for width (clavicles/shoulders) if your shoulder is blown out from throwing. You cannot height max (posture/spine health) if your knees are destroyed from impact landings. Ascending requires a pristine skeleton to build muscle on.

III. THE PHYSIQUE MISMATCH


Athletes train for function. Ascenders train for form. These goals are mutually exclusive.​

1. The Blocky Core


Issue: Sports require core stability for changing direction. This builds the obliques and rectus abdominis heavily.


Aesthetic Fail: A thick core ruins your V Taper. To look aesthetic, you need broad shoulders and a tiny waist. Sports give you a blocky, wide waist that makes your shoulders look narrower by comparison.


2. Lower Body Dominance


Issue: Soccer, hockey, and sprinting build massive legs and glutes.


Aesthetic Fail: While legs are good, T Rex Mode (huge legs, small upper body) is a fail. Your body has limited recovery resources. If your body is repairing your legs from 90 minutes of running, it isn't building your upper chest or medial delts.

IV. RESOURCE ALLOCATION (THE OPPORTUNITY COST)


Every calorie and hour spent on a sport is a calorie and hour NOT spent on specific aesthetic improvement.​

1. The Caloric Deficit Trap


The Math: Playing a match burns 800 to 1000 calories. To build muscle (bulking), you must eat in a surplus.


The Grind: Eating 4000 calories just to break even is miserable and expensive. It makes consistent hypertrophy almost impossible for "hard gainers." You stay skinny because you run too much.


2. Energy for Hardmaxxing


The Reality: If you spend Saturday exhausted from a game, you aren't working a side hustle to pay for braces, implants, or dermatological treatments. Sports are a time sink with zero financial ROI unless you are pro. Ascension requires capital.

Conclusion: Stop trying to be an athlete if you aren't one. If you want to ascend, treat your body like a sculpture, not a tool. Lift heavy weights for aesthetics, sleep for recovery, and protect your face from impact. Sports are for fun; gym is for status.​

good thread.

 

[angelo]

im not even kidding i quit wrestling because of this, rip to my season