The truth about bones smashing and how it CAN work (13 Viewers)

[surgerymax]

What is the point if you can just get fillers?

Because most filler is complete shit

 

[MedSlayer]

Because most filler is complete shit

You can diy HA fillers pretty easily they last 6 months and you can always dissolve them if they migrate and the migration rate is abt 1% on bone structure

 

[Godveil Heir]

mid risk, no reward

 

[surgerymax]

You can diy HA fillers pretty easily they last 6 months and you can always dissolve them if they migrate and the migration rate is abt 1% on bone structure

filler is not as easy as you think lol , the technique matters alot

 

[surgerymax]

mid risk, no reward

nope

 

[MedSlayer]

filler is not as easy as you think lol , the technique matters alot

My friend diy it for the first in front of me and everything went well zygos chin and gonions are the easiest to diy and theres plenty of yt vids out there that shows the proper technique
If you fail diy fillers iq is the issue

 

[Chuck Yeager]

i disrupt the healing process as this drives scar tissue and what is that stupid analogy , it doesn't apply to the biology here at all

it applies ur just retarded (thread was already proof u were)

scar tissue doesn't organize like normal tissue so the more u interrupt healing the more irregular and asymetrical the results are. same reason why doctors immobilize bones after they break. when a bone breaks the body forms a callus, and if u keep moving or break the bone again, the body will produce more callus but the structure becomes deformed since the healing is uncontrolled

 

[Skulloute]

Interesting thread, bonesmashing hmmm

 

[surgerymax]

it applies ur just retarded (thread was already proof u were)

scar tissue doesn't organize like normal tissue so the more u interrupt healing the more irregular and asymetrical the results are. same reason why doctors immobilize bones after they break. when a bone breaks the body forms a callus, and if u keep moving or break the bone again, the body will produce more callus but the structure becomes deformed since the healing is uncontrolled

The whole point is to build as much scar tissue as you can so there’s no problem with disrupting healing and assymetrical in comparison to what? Both sides will heal with similar levels of asymmetry
Also applying moving bones to blunt force trauma causing hematoma and inflammation is retarded

I already mentioned the risk of assymetry in the thread and it not a huge issue if ur not complete retarded.

 

[surgerymax]

My friend diy it for the first in front of me and everything went well zygos chin and gonions are the easiest to diy and theres plenty of yt vids out there that shows the proper technique
If you fail diy fillers iq is the issue

Not at all lol it’s easy to complete fuck up filler , and as you said many people won’t be able to , it’s not the type of thing i’d cheap out on personally , also filler is just shit long term

 

[Chuck Yeager]

The whole point is to build as much scar tissue as you can so there’s no problem with disrupting healing and assymetrical in comparison to what? Both sides will heal with similar levels of asymmetry
Also applying moving bones to blunt force trauma causing hematoma and inflammation is retarded

I already mentioned the risk of assymetry in the thread and it not a huge issue if ur not complete retarded.

this still assumes that more scar tissue = better structure which is just stupid. scar tissue is disorganized collagen so increasing it wont give controlled shape

if u constantly re injure it then ur preventing the remodeling phase so tissue stays in an early disorganized state instead of anything structured. more damage leads to more chaotic repair and not better results

ur argument is flawed and ur not even arguing against me, ur arguing against basic biology u fucking retard idk why u think this is a good idea

 

[MedSlayer]

Not at all lol it’s easy to complete fuck up filler , and as you said many people won’t be able to , it’s not the type of thing i’d cheap out on personally , also filler is just shit long term

Seems like youre not that knowledgeable on fillers dyor
Even if you fuck it up you can always dissolve it
And fillers is only shit long term if you pay somebody to do it if yoy diy it its pretty cheap more customisable and you have to do is dissolve it after 5-6 sessions and start again

 

[surgerymax]

this still assumes that more scar tissue = better structure which is just stupid. scar tissue is disorganized collagen so increasing it wont give controlled shape

if u constantly re injure it then ur preventing the remodeling phase so tissue stays in an early disorganized state instead of anything structured. more damage leads to more chaotic repair and not better results

ur argument is flawed and ur not even arguing against me, ur arguing against basic biology u fucking retard idk why u think this is a good idea

i specifically mentioned to not expect the world and how things like surgery are far superior
I also said this is not taking anyone from ugly to gl and but it WILL add more volume to the area of trauma
This was simply a thread explaining the way bone smash actually would work and the best way to go about it

And also scar tissue under the skin isnt some insane deformity looking shit jfl

Im assuming more scar tissue = more volume which if done right (applying roughly the same trauma in the same place each side) will look better

 

[surgerymax]

Seems like youre not that knowledgeable on fillers dyor
Even if you fuck it up you can always dissolve it
And fillers is only shit long term if you pay somebody to do it if yoy diy it its pretty cheap more customisable and you have to do is dissolve it after 5-6 sessions and start again

Look at the recent mri's JFL
you can just dissolve it , you cant get rid of it all

 

[MedSlayer]

Look at the recent mri's JFL
you can just dissolve it , you cant get rid of it all

All the mris you see is ppl who didnt dissolve it HA fillers (the most popular one) do get completely dissolved and broke down by your body with hyaluronidase injections

 

[Chuck Yeager]

i specifically mentioned to not expect the world and how things like surgery are far superior
I also said this is not taking anyone from ugly to gl and but it WILL add more volume to the area of trauma
This was simply a thread explaining the way bone smash actually would work and the best way to go about it

And also scar tissue under the skin isnt some insane deformity looking shit jfl

Im assuming more scar tissue = more volume which if done right (applying roughly the same trauma in the same place each side) will look better

ur still treating scar tissue like it behaves like controlled filler. even if it adds some volume its still not organized or evenly distributed. it wont look like clean bone projection ur just gonna get irregular thickening.

"applying the same trauma in the same place each side" still doesn't guarantee symmetry since the healing response isnt linear. theres still small differences in angle, force, n blood flow which get amplified everytime u re injure it

even "if" (key word) we assume some volume is added theres no reason to expect it to look better rather than just more uneven

organize ur claims so u dont need to shift the goal posts from "it will improve appearance" to "it could add volume" (theres nothing else to even argue about)

 

[surgerymax]

All the mris you see is ppl who didnt dissolve it HA fillers (the most popular one) do get completely dissolved and broke down by your body with hyaluronidase injections

no theres plenty of reported cases of HA filler persistent after many attempts to dissolve it jfl

 

[Chuck Yeager]

All the mris you see is ppl who didnt dissolve it HA fillers (the most popular one) do get completely dissolved and broke down by your body with hyaluronidase injections

https://www.realself.com/nonsurgical/hyaluronidase
https://beautyvaultmedspa.com/educa...actually-go-when-dissolved-a-doctor-explains/

just add sources atp so he shuts up

 

[surgerymax]

ur still treating scar tissue like it behaves like controlled filler. even if it adds some volume its still not organized or evenly distributed. it wont look like clean bone projection ur just gonna get irregular thickening.

As i said i already mentioned the risk of asymmetry in the original thread , i never proposed this as some implant

"applying the same trauma in the same place each side" still doesn't guarantee symmetry since the healing response isnt linear. theres still small differences in angle, force, n blood flow which get amplified everytime u re injure it

Never made the claim it would but it will reduce asymmetry enough to where its not a problem , everyone is already asymmetrical

even "if" (key word) we assume some volume is added theres no reason to expect it to look better rather than just more uneven

Scar tissue underneath the skin that is caused by this type of blunt force trauma isn't some ugly deformed shit you're making it out to be

 

[MedSlayer]

no theres plenty of reported cases of HA filler persistent after many attempts to dissolve it jfl

All low iq users error

 

[surgerymax]

https://www.realself.com/nonsurgical/hyaluronidase
https://beautyvaultmedspa.com/educa...actually-go-when-dissolved-a-doctor-explains/

just add sources atp so he shuts up

what are these shitty sources jfl
This didn't prove shit , we still have plenty of people with persistent filler after many sessions of hyal

 

[surgerymax]

All low iq users error

done it professional clinic
stop leaving everything up to user error jfl
im not anti filler it can be good but don't act like its a good long term option , the risk accumulates with time

 

[Chuck Yeager]

As i said i already mentioned the risk of asymmetry in the original thread , i never proposed this as some implant

Never made the claim it would but it will reduce asymmetry enough to where its not a problem , everyone is already asymmetrical

Scar tissue underneath the skin that is caused by this type of blunt force trauma isn't some ugly deformed shit you're making it out to be

not saying u think its an implant im saying u treat it like it behaves in a controlled way, the same way an implant does. the scar tissue not forming evenly or predictably is the main issue n not asymmetry. ur getting irregular thickening instead of a clean shape

assuming it reduces it to an acceptable level even tho theres no reason it would. if anything, repeatedly re injuring it amplifies small differences so theres just as much reason to expect worse asymmetry not less

not being deformed isnt the same as looking better. the claim was that it improves appearance n not that it doesnt look terrible. irregular thickening can still look worse even if its not extreme

 

[MedSlayer]

done it professional clinic
stop leaving everything up to user error jfl
im not anti filler it can be good but don't act like its a good long term option , the risk accumulates with time

Dude you think bcs you go to a professional clinic everything will be fine
Most of the case of fillers not dissolvers was bcs of either incorrect dosing , poor injection technique , waiting too long to dissolve it or inject in the wrong spot

 

[Darktriad]

To start off all the bone theories have all either been debunked to death or are the most insane mental gymnastics and some retarded application which is not even bones smashing and is not practical , this has very simple mechanisms and line of reasoning that does seem very plausible and I've seen plastic surgeons also comment that his may likely work.


Now what i propose is that rather than trying to grow bone instead we try form scar tissue underneath the skin (which does appear the same on the outside if done right) and the main driver of the results we will see are from scar tissue that occurs as a result of rupturing of capillaries under the skin causing bleeding and an inflammatory result in response to the blunt force trauma
The key part is turning that inflammatory response into a fibrous formation and it seems the main factor is to repeatedly disrupt the healing process which is best achieved with a higher frequency so i propose rather than one longer session in the day we smash a few times through out the day VERY HARD , max 3-4 hits every few hours
This would also explain why boney parts with low amounts of soft tissue like areas around the orbital rim are almost never reported to grow (anecdotally) whereas areas covered by thicker fat pads (chin , zygos) people always talk about some bones smash gains or some kind of long term change especially the zygos which are covered by some of the thickest fat pads in the face
Now on top of this we can use things to try increase this forming of scar tissue by super charging our collagen synthesis.
Particularly the best option seems to be winstrol (though many of them work very well) as it seems to be the most powerful AAS for collagen synthesis which significantly increases scar tissue formation and also very potent TGF-B1 up regulation which is one of the core drivers of fibrosis
We can see even test will increase fibrosis by a significant amount
My anecdote
Over my time bones smash , i was mainly doing it for the pump but i do sternly believe i have maintained some permanent gains though i do have seem to have some permanent bruising along my cheekbones that i’ll have to take care of and i do think one side has grown a little more than the other has so you do need to be careful with this and do it at ur own discretion and also not to mention the possible cognitive effects of this
I was going with the usual hitting your face for one session rather than the idea i presented earlier
I will continue to bones smash before going out etc for the pump but as i am committed to surgery which will obviously yield much better results i dont plan to run the protocol i stated but i just wanted to put this out there as a plausible genuine bones smash theory after all the non sense discussion about it for so many years
Now of course this may work , you should not be expecting the world although guys like androgenic have made HUGE gains bones smashing but I don't believe this is likely at all for most of you.
This will not turn anyone from ugly to good looking , some of you need a fucking skull transplant jfl not bones smash , so set some realistic expectation if you do commit to this.
TLDR

Blunt force trauma = capillary rupture = bleeding = acute inflammation = fibroblast activation = collagen deposition and fibrosis locally = scar tissue which you can fraud as looking like bone


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holy misinformation and terrible technique

good read tho