This is my first ever post on here so i thoiught i could get some advice form the people that ahve alot more knwoeldge then me within this industry.Im not the most knowledgable on all of this.I feel like im doing aot of the surface level shi but i havent really deeped dive into it and i just dont know whats next.I feel like the surface level shi isnt even enough anymore.If i wr to rate myself i would consider myself a hltn.I just turned 17, im a late bloomer, 5,7, extremely recessed, really bad bone structure, not sure if its a deep fat issue or baby fat or what but i have alot of face fat despite being around 13 percent bodyfat( i dont wanna risk going lower because im afraid it might ruin my heigh development).Im gonna essnetially say exactly what i do:
Hair: probably my biggest positive, in the process of growing out my hair, i would say i have 2a hair, somewhat long, no fade, get alot of compliments on my hair, shampoo once a week, condition after shampoo, sea salt spray and pomade.( i fell for based propaganda and marketing).
eyebrows:My entire eye area is probably my second best thing( apart from my recessed infrasand i think i have bad orbitals, othen then that i like to think i have a good eye area.), but i have dark thick eyebrows, i would say they are nuetrally tilted as in they are straight.I was contemplating dying my eyebrows but they are already pretty dark so im not sure, also fell for the castor oil propaganda and realised its mid and doesnt really do shit.Dont think i need to hop on minox because i think they are already thick and pretty long.
Eyelashes: i have dark long eyelahses, i recently bought the ordinary lash serum so ima start using that when it arrives, again probably one of the best things i have about my face.If i wr to dye my eyebrows then i would dye my bottom lashes aswell but again im not sure if i need to because i thi k they are already dark.
Eyes shape and colour: i have brown eyes, positively tilted, i had issues with my sclera being red which gives me shit contrast so i recently boughjt lumify, im gonna limit the use to only once a week, or only when i realy need it.
Skin: I have golden/ brown olive skin.In terms of skin care im blessed to not have much acne or acne scars or any of that, i do get get the ocasional pimple here and there but i would say i have good skin.In terms of skincare i dont do accutane or tret or anything because i dont have acne, i just cleanse, tallow as a mosituruzer, and use tinted sunscreen.Tallow is used just to give me a bit of glow, i heard its bad for acne prone skin but i dont have that, ik its overhyped because of the " primal" community but i like the glow it gives.
Height: From my minimul research i relised that heigh is basically: geneteics, sleep, nutrition and psoture, again im not really knwoeldgable but this is what i do:
Sleep: Sunlight and grounding in the morning to set the circadian rythm, to optomize sleep, no food 2 hours before sleep, after unsent i put a dark shift/night shift mode on my phone and laptop, i wear red loght glasses after sunset, no screen time an hour before bed, warm shower 3 minutes before sleep, dark room, mouth tape, and i sleep 9-10 hours every single day.Ive always slept along time but i always felt liek the wuality of my sleep, and the deep sleep i got wasnt optimal so i started to implement this routine( the circadian ryhtm shi) to try and optomize my deep sleep,Its only been 5 days since i started this.In terms of nutrition i feel like i eat really good.I dont really eat any bullshit, i dont eat no raw meat bullshit, but i would say i ahve a pretty good diet, to optomize all my micro nutrients to hopefully optomize my heigh.The onky thing that gives me hope is that im a late bloomer, all my sibling wr aswell.My oldest brother was 5,7 at 17( exact same as me) and hes 21 at 6,1 without shoes.Ive actually grown 3 inches this year i was 5,4 last year and im 5,7.Being 5,4 at 16 was geneinely the worst thing ive ever experienced but thats a story for another day.Ik everyone says life starts at 6,3 and whatever but if i could reach 5,10/ 5,11 without shoes i would geneueonly be so happy.if i was 5,11 then i can easily fraud to 6,1/ 6,2.Funny thing is alot of people say that bp ruined them but tbh it kind of gives me a sense of comfort that other people go throuhh the same shi as me and that makes me feel less of an outlier, but that doesnt really matter rn.Next for posture im going to start doing the " dead hangs" not sure if thats what its called but essnetially hang from a bar to try and stretch out and de compress my spine, i also heard glucosamine is good for keeping the spine de compressed but again im not that knwoeldgable so im not sure if i ahould buy it.
Frame: Unfortuantely i am 5,7 at 17, again i do believe im a late bloomer and ive heard late bloomers ultimately grow taller then if they wr an early bloomer.Im not allowed to go to the gym yet because my mum doesnt let me( my broher went to the gym around the same age at 17 and he ended up injuring his back trying to deadlift and my mum is afriad the same thing happens to me).In a few months ill be allowed to go but in terms of genetics i have decently wide clavicles, somehwat narrow waist.Ive neve really measured the ratios and the distances but just from the eye they seem alright.My older brother has a very good frame tho, wide clavicles narrow waist, in terms of appeal his physique is really appealing towards women so again that gives me hope.
Bones:This is the problem.Im extremely fucking recessed all around.My side profile is genuienly disgusting, again i have baby fat or deep fat or whatever it is but i cnt really see my bones but from whats apparent im really recessed all around, my side profile is geneuienly disgusting and idk wtf i can do.Thats why i said idk what the next step is because in terms of surface level shi i feel like ive covered the basics, but idk wtf i can do for my bones and for my recession.I think a part of it is because of my awful development, when i was a kid i vividly remenber literally only mouth breathing, and always having a blocked nose, always in ant out of hospital.Again i have some hope because i havent really hit my growth spurt and im hoping that with the growth spurt, it cant hopefully help with my bones?But again i cant even see my bones due to the baby fat or whatever it is.I heard something about mechanical tension and mechanical breakdown for bone growth, and igf signalling and all of thi shi but tbh im clueless about all of it.I dont want to do surgery, or do any peptides or any injections or any of that.Im not willing to go to extreme lengths but idk if therrs anything i can do that dosnt invoolve surgery peptides any of that that would actually help me.I think i can fraud my shit ramus, jawline, gonail angle, lack of chin projection and so many other bones by growing out a beard.Both my dad and older brother have good beard jenetics.Ik having a beard isnt ideal for appeal and that clean shaven or a goatee is better but tbh if nothing works then i think my best bet is just hiding all my recession with a beard.And because of my " good beard jenetics" it wont be a shit unkept lifeless beard.As of rn i have no facial haiors apart from a tiny bit on my mosutache but it isnt apparent from a distanvce u would only notice it if u look realy close,which again gives me hope of the growth spurt.
I dont mind showing pictures of my eye area for the " dying" suggestion and the contacts thing, but tbh im not reaslly comfortable showing my face.If the only way u can give me advice is by seeing my face then i can maybe send it to you provately if u seem knwoeldgable and can actually help me.Dont expect me to be attrarctivge, again i consider myslef an ltn facialy but if u include my height i geneueinly think im subhuman atleats thats how i get treated.
Would really apreciate some real, no sugerocating, brutal truth and honest suggestions from some knowledgable people within the community.
Hair: probably my biggest positive, in the process of growing out my hair, i would say i have 2a hair, somewhat long, no fade, get alot of compliments on my hair, shampoo once a week, condition after shampoo, sea salt spray and pomade.( i fell for based propaganda and marketing).
eyebrows:My entire eye area is probably my second best thing( apart from my recessed infrasand i think i have bad orbitals, othen then that i like to think i have a good eye area.), but i have dark thick eyebrows, i would say they are nuetrally tilted as in they are straight.I was contemplating dying my eyebrows but they are already pretty dark so im not sure, also fell for the castor oil propaganda and realised its mid and doesnt really do shit.Dont think i need to hop on minox because i think they are already thick and pretty long.
Eyelashes: i have dark long eyelahses, i recently bought the ordinary lash serum so ima start using that when it arrives, again probably one of the best things i have about my face.If i wr to dye my eyebrows then i would dye my bottom lashes aswell but again im not sure if i need to because i thi k they are already dark.
Eyes shape and colour: i have brown eyes, positively tilted, i had issues with my sclera being red which gives me shit contrast so i recently boughjt lumify, im gonna limit the use to only once a week, or only when i realy need it.
Skin: I have golden/ brown olive skin.In terms of skin care im blessed to not have much acne or acne scars or any of that, i do get get the ocasional pimple here and there but i would say i have good skin.In terms of skincare i dont do accutane or tret or anything because i dont have acne, i just cleanse, tallow as a mosituruzer, and use tinted sunscreen.Tallow is used just to give me a bit of glow, i heard its bad for acne prone skin but i dont have that, ik its overhyped because of the " primal" community but i like the glow it gives.
Height: From my minimul research i relised that heigh is basically: geneteics, sleep, nutrition and psoture, again im not really knwoeldgable but this is what i do:
Sleep: Sunlight and grounding in the morning to set the circadian rythm, to optomize sleep, no food 2 hours before sleep, after unsent i put a dark shift/night shift mode on my phone and laptop, i wear red loght glasses after sunset, no screen time an hour before bed, warm shower 3 minutes before sleep, dark room, mouth tape, and i sleep 9-10 hours every single day.Ive always slept along time but i always felt liek the wuality of my sleep, and the deep sleep i got wasnt optimal so i started to implement this routine( the circadian ryhtm shi) to try and optomize my deep sleep,Its only been 5 days since i started this.In terms of nutrition i feel like i eat really good.I dont really eat any bullshit, i dont eat no raw meat bullshit, but i would say i ahve a pretty good diet, to optomize all my micro nutrients to hopefully optomize my heigh.The onky thing that gives me hope is that im a late bloomer, all my sibling wr aswell.My oldest brother was 5,7 at 17( exact same as me) and hes 21 at 6,1 without shoes.Ive actually grown 3 inches this year i was 5,4 last year and im 5,7.Being 5,4 at 16 was geneinely the worst thing ive ever experienced but thats a story for another day.Ik everyone says life starts at 6,3 and whatever but if i could reach 5,10/ 5,11 without shoes i would geneueonly be so happy.if i was 5,11 then i can easily fraud to 6,1/ 6,2.Funny thing is alot of people say that bp ruined them but tbh it kind of gives me a sense of comfort that other people go throuhh the same shi as me and that makes me feel less of an outlier, but that doesnt really matter rn.Next for posture im going to start doing the " dead hangs" not sure if thats what its called but essnetially hang from a bar to try and stretch out and de compress my spine, i also heard glucosamine is good for keeping the spine de compressed but again im not that knwoeldgable so im not sure if i ahould buy it.
Frame: Unfortuantely i am 5,7 at 17, again i do believe im a late bloomer and ive heard late bloomers ultimately grow taller then if they wr an early bloomer.Im not allowed to go to the gym yet because my mum doesnt let me( my broher went to the gym around the same age at 17 and he ended up injuring his back trying to deadlift and my mum is afriad the same thing happens to me).In a few months ill be allowed to go but in terms of genetics i have decently wide clavicles, somehwat narrow waist.Ive neve really measured the ratios and the distances but just from the eye they seem alright.My older brother has a very good frame tho, wide clavicles narrow waist, in terms of appeal his physique is really appealing towards women so again that gives me hope.
Bones:This is the problem.Im extremely fucking recessed all around.My side profile is genuienly disgusting, again i have baby fat or deep fat or whatever it is but i cnt really see my bones but from whats apparent im really recessed all around, my side profile is geneuienly disgusting and idk wtf i can do.Thats why i said idk what the next step is because in terms of surface level shi i feel like ive covered the basics, but idk wtf i can do for my bones and for my recession.I think a part of it is because of my awful development, when i was a kid i vividly remenber literally only mouth breathing, and always having a blocked nose, always in ant out of hospital.Again i have some hope because i havent really hit my growth spurt and im hoping that with the growth spurt, it cant hopefully help with my bones?But again i cant even see my bones due to the baby fat or whatever it is.I heard something about mechanical tension and mechanical breakdown for bone growth, and igf signalling and all of thi shi but tbh im clueless about all of it.I dont want to do surgery, or do any peptides or any injections or any of that.Im not willing to go to extreme lengths but idk if therrs anything i can do that dosnt invoolve surgery peptides any of that that would actually help me.I think i can fraud my shit ramus, jawline, gonail angle, lack of chin projection and so many other bones by growing out a beard.Both my dad and older brother have good beard jenetics.Ik having a beard isnt ideal for appeal and that clean shaven or a goatee is better but tbh if nothing works then i think my best bet is just hiding all my recession with a beard.And because of my " good beard jenetics" it wont be a shit unkept lifeless beard.As of rn i have no facial haiors apart from a tiny bit on my mosutache but it isnt apparent from a distanvce u would only notice it if u look realy close,which again gives me hope of the growth spurt.
I dont mind showing pictures of my eye area for the " dying" suggestion and the contacts thing, but tbh im not reaslly comfortable showing my face.If the only way u can give me advice is by seeing my face then i can maybe send it to you provately if u seem knwoeldgable and can actually help me.Dont expect me to be attrarctivge, again i consider myslef an ltn facialy but if u include my height i geneueinly think im subhuman atleats thats how i get treated.
Would really apreciate some real, no sugerocating, brutal truth and honest suggestions from some knowledgable people within the community.
