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Discussion raw meat is probably one of the most regarded diet trends ive seen (3 Viewers)

Discussion raw meat is probably one of the most regarded diet trends ive seen

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"which you can do easily and safely with cooked food" raw does it wayyy better and easier; and theres other things, like digestion thyroid all this shit you need to fix it. the Primal diet makes all ts easier. Just healthmaxxing, and about being good looking, the primal diet is not about to fix at all, maybe a bit
yet again making it quite obvious ur a retard.

Digestion requiers fiber which is vegetables, no meat will make a bigger impact than fiber.

Thyroid, again retarded, a balanced diet mogs.

“way better and easier” cooked food weighs less due to the water being cooked out meaning you need to eat less for more gains in the gym since the caloric density and protein absorption is upscales with cooking, so its neither better nor easier.

and drive on about ur toothbrushes lmao stinky nasty ass anime nigga, u match ur profile to a tee faggot.
 

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microplastics will get into you no matter what firstly.
Secondly there is absolutely no scientific study that supports ur claim of flouride dropping test.
Thirdly ur a disgusting slut, nasty ass nigga never speak anywhere near me shitmouth, cant even abide by basic hygene code
gentiles are a very unintelligent species.
 

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gentiles are a very unintelligent species.
made no rebuttal and are falling for obvious retarded propaganda yet im unintelligent??😂😂😂

crawl back under ur faggoted rock bitch ass nigga
 

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yet again making it quite obvious ur a retard.

Digestion requiers fiber which is vegetables, no meat will make a bigger impact than fiber.

Thyroid, again retarded, a balanced diet mogs.

“way better and easier” cooked food weighs less due to the water being cooked out meaning you need to eat less for more gains in the gym since the caloric density and protein absorption is upscales with cooking, so its neither better nor easier.

and drive on about ur toothbrushes lmao stinky nasty ass anime nigga, u match ur profile to a tee faggot.
Fiber is composed largely of an indigestible compound known as
cellulose, just like a significant part of trees and tree bark are.
The bottom line is that fiber actually seems to cause harm. It can block
nutrient absorption, we cannot break it down, and it causes
microabrasions in the gut lining. It also increases mucus secretion and
immune dysregulation.

significant study on fiber where they took a small size of people with severe ibs symptoms and cured all of them with a zero fiber diet.
: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3435786/#:~:text=With regards to straining%2C all,had symptoms of anal bleeding
 

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Fiber is composed largely of an indigestible compound known as
cellulose, just like a significant part of trees and tree bark are.
The bottom line is that fiber actually seems to cause harm. It can block
nutrient absorption, we cannot break it down, and it causes
microabrasions in the gut lining. It also increases mucus secretion and
immune dysregulation.

significant study on fiber where they took a small size of people with severe ibs symptoms and cured all of them with a zero fiber diet.
: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3435786/#:~:text=With regards to straining%2C all,had symptoms of anal bleeding
obviously if the niggas eat too much fiber its going to cause side effects, like anything else a dose higher than meant for consumption, the braindeadery is getting out of hand.

And like anything founded in the scientific community the subject has many opinions and results at different doses and so on but the most common consensus if that we need fiber, its good for us and healthy, a core part of our diet and nesecary for health.

Do better research before u push out this shit, u are getting wwlked like a dog.
Do me a favor dont even respond ur responses are getting weaker by every letter u write
 

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Fiber is composed largely of an indigestible compound known as
cellulose, just like a significant part of trees and tree bark are.
The bottom line is that fiber actually seems to cause harm. It can block
nutrient absorption, we cannot break it down, and it causes
microabrasions in the gut lining. It also increases mucus secretion and
immune dysregulation.

significant study on fiber where they took a small size of people with severe ibs symptoms and cured all of them with a zero fiber diet.
: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3435786/#:~:text=With regards to straining%2C all,had symptoms of anal bleeding
one more things for u, if ur gonna argue for the raw diet u might wana debunk the actual arguments i made against it not lead away from it with some no fiber bullshit😂😂
 

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made no rebuttal and are falling for obvious retarded propaganda yet im unintelligent??😂😂😂

crawl back under ur faggoted rock bitch ass nigga
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obviously if the niggas eat too much fiber its going to cause side effects, like anything else a dose higher than meant for consumption, the braindeadery is getting out of hand.

And like anything founded in the scientific community the subject has many opinions and results at different doses and so on but the most common consensus if that we need fiber, its good for us and healthy, a core part of our diet and nesecary for health.

Do better research before u push out this shit, u are getting wwlked like a dog.
Do me a favor dont even respond ur responses are getting weaker by every letter u write
if fiber wasnt a problem they couldved fix it with regulated fiber levels
 

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yet again making it quite obvious ur a retard.

Digestion requiers fiber which is vegetables, no meat will make a bigger impact than fiber.

Thyroid, again retarded, a balanced diet mogs.

“way better and easier” cooked food weighs less due to the water being cooked out meaning you need to eat less for more gains in the gym since the caloric density and protein absorption is upscales with cooking, so its neither better nor easier.

and drive on about ur toothbrushes lmao stinky nasty ass anime nigga, u match ur profile to a tee faggot.
raw meat has bacteria and different forms of nutrients than cooked and the nutrients are NOT destroyed, retinol is damaged while cooking and enzymes get destroyed and for bacteria :

View: https://youtu.be/X-Lww60Ln3M



When this man saw a doctor he indeed had a large amount E. E.Coli in his gut. Yet remains asymptomatic. This suggests the body can tolerate and manage bacterial loads that would hospitalise someone with compromised gut health. The relevant variable isn't whether bacteria are present in the first place, it's whether the host can contain them. Source quality and gut integrity are the factors to consider. Interestingly, humans contain a lower stomach acid pH than pure carnivores such as Lions, which provides a meaningful barrier against ingested pathogens

Overall, if you aren't in poor health, taking regular antibiotics or anything that can disrupt your gut health and steadily cooking your food less each time, you can adapt to the primal diet. Cooking does destroy the nutrients and enzymes in foods, this is factual. So it is logical to simply eat it raw


you can also easily and always hit protein goals

you can say whatever you want but no one with a "balanced diet" will go older than 120 or 130

You still listen to mainstream nutrition while jeffrey epstein 8 years ago was eating raw foods knowing damn well what he is doing
 

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raw meat has bacteria and different forms of nutrients than cooked and the nutrients are NOT destroyed, retinol is damaged while cooking and enzymes get destroyed and for bacteria :

View: https://youtu.be/X-Lww60Ln3M



When this man saw a doctor he indeed had a large amount E. E.Coli in his gut. Yet remains asymptomatic. This suggests the body can tolerate and manage bacterial loads that would hospitalise someone with compromised gut health. The relevant variable isn't whether bacteria are present in the first place, it's whether the host can contain them. Source quality and gut integrity are the factors to consider. Interestingly, humans contain a lower stomach acid pH than pure carnivores such as Lions, which provides a meaningful barrier against ingested pathogens

Overall, if you aren't in poor health, taking regular antibiotics or anything that can disrupt your gut health and steadily cooking your food less each time, you can adapt to the primal diet. Cooking does destroy the nutrients and enzymes in foods, this is factual. So it is logical to simply eat it raw


you can also easily and always hit protein goals

you can say whatever you want but no one with a "balanced diet" will go older than 120 or 130

You still listen to mainstream nutrition while jeffrey epstein 8 years ago was eating raw foods knowing damn well what he is doing
its not 8 years my bad
 

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if fiber wasnt a problem they couldved fix it with regulated fiber levels
yet somehow across the whole globe the scientific consensus on fiber is overwhelmingly that it is exceptionally healthy, needed for longterm health and a core food. All of our governments are feeding us bullshit and lies right?

You can argue wether or not the earth is flat yet it wont change the truth
 

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yet somehow across the whole globe the scientific consensus on fiber is overwhelmingly that it is exceptionally healthy, needed for longterm health and a core food. All of our governments are feeding us bullshit and lies right?

You can argue wether or not the earth is flat yet it wont change the truth
if you follow what they say letter to letter you still wont as healthier as an inuit or massai
 

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if you follow what they say letter to letter you still wont as healthier as an inuit or massai
my god nigga u have literally proved everything i thought about u rawdiet retards.

Every individual is different, there is no one size fits all diet, you have to track and adjust, the only fact there standa is that a balanced diet is the healthiest and no valid argument can be made against it. You cannot group every person into a bunch and tell them eat exactly like this, ofcourse that wont be healthy as there is no accounting to personal needs and deficiencies.

Stop arguing im losing braincells simply reading your responses.
 

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my god nigga u have literally proved everything i thought about u rawdiet retards.

Every individual is different, there is no one size fits all diet, you have to track and adjust, the only fact there standa is that a balanced diet is the healthiest and no valid argument can be made against it. You cannot group every person into a bunch and tell them eat exactly like this, ofcourse that wont be healthy as there is no accounting to personal needs and deficiencies.

Stop arguing im losing braincells simply reading your responses.
alrr 🥺
 

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before anyone starts taking this as me pretending to be a health expert, im literally not. i smoke cigarettes, eat greek yogurt, eat fruit and take weed brownies/edibles. im not waking up at 6am drinking green juice and tracking my selenium intake. this is just my opinion after actually thinking about the argument and looking at the evidence behind it.
and honestly i think the raw meat diet has one of the weakest risk/reward ratios of any diet trend ive seen.

“but our ancestors ate it raw”​

this argument has always seemed incredibly shallow to me.
yes, humans have eaten raw meat throughout history. that doesnt establish that raw meat is better for humans. it establishes that humans can eat raw meat.
there is a massive difference between “humans historically did this” and “this is the optimal thing to do when you have access to modern food preparation”.
our ancestors also dealt with parasites, bacterial infections, food spoilage and a whole range of problems that modern food safety exists specifically to reduce.
if someone genuinely thinks evolution selected humans to intentionally expose themselves to avoidable pathogens because it builds character, theyre confusing historical necessity with biological optimisation.

what are you actually gaining​

this is the question raw-meat advocates never seem particularly interested in answering.
okay, you dont cook your steak. cool.
what meaningful nutritional advantage did you just unlock?
the answer usually ends up being “enzymes”, “bioavailability” or “cooking destroys nutrients”.
but cooking doesnt turn meat into cardboard. cooked meat is still an extremely nutrient-dense source of protein, iron, zinc, B12 and other nutrients.
yes, heat can alter some nutrients. thats true of basically every food preparation method. but “some nutrients are affected by cooking” does not logically become “therefore eating meat completely raw is superior”.
youre taking a relatively minor theoretical nutritional argument and using it to justify a much more concrete food-safety risk.
thats an awful trade unless you can actually demonstrate a significant benefit.

the food poisoning argument is not complicated​

raw meat can contain pathogens. this isnt some anti-carnivore conspiracy.
CDC guidance specifically identifies raw or undercooked meat as a food-safety risk and recommends cooking meat adequately to reduce the risk of foodborne illness.
and ground meat makes the argument even worse because grinding can distribute bacteria throughout the meat rather than leaving contamination primarily on the surface.
so when someone tells me they eat raw minced beef every day because “humans are supposed to eat meat”, im just thinking why would you deliberately remove one of the easiest safety measures available to you?
if you eat rare steak because you like rare steak, whatever. thats a different argument.
but claiming that raw meat is objectively healthier requires evidence that actually outweighs the downside.

“ive never gotten sick”​

this one is always funny.
“ive eaten raw meat for years and nothing happened” is not evidence that raw meat is safe.
its evidence that nothing happened to you yet.
risk doesnt mean something happens every single time. thats not how probability works.
you can drive without a seatbelt for years without crashing. that doesnt make the seatbelt useless.
if cooking reduces the probability of foodborne illness and doesnt meaningfully destroy the nutritional value youre trying to obtain, why wouldnt you do it?

meanwhile fruit actually fills nutritional gaps​

this is where i think the diet gets especially ridiculous.
meat is useful. obviously.
but meat doesnt magically contain everything your body needs.
fruit provides fibre, potassium, vitamin C, folate and a huge range of plant compounds.
berries are especially easy to add because you dont even have to restructure your diet around them.
blueberries, strawberries, raspberries, blackberries.
throw them into greek yogurt and youve immediately added a completely different nutritional profile to your meal.
there is also actual epidemiological evidence linking higher fruit and vegetable intake with better long-term health outcomes. obviously this doesnt mean “eat blueberries and become immortal”, but it makes the idea that plant foods are basically useless extremely difficult to defend.

greek yogurt + berries clears the caveman slop​

this is probably the simplest example.
greek yogurt gives you a convenient source of high-quality protein and calcium.
berries give you fibre, vitamin C and various polyphenols and other bioactive compounds.
you can add oats, honey, banana or whatever else fits your diet and calories.
its nutritious, convenient, tastes good and takes about 30 seconds to make.
compare that with somebody sitting there eating raw mince because they read that fire is “unnatural”.
you dont need to invent a dietary ideology to eat well.

ancestral doesnt mean optimal​

this is probably the biggest logical error behind the entire movement.
evolution isnt a health optimisation algorithm.
natural selection doesnt care whether you have perfect cholesterol, low cancer risk at 70 or good cardiovascular health at 85. it cares whether traits help organisms survive and reproduce in their environment.
so “humans evolved eating X” doesnt automatically mean X is optimal for modern humans.
modern humans have refrigeration, sanitation, food safety standards, cooking equipment and access to foods our ancestors couldnt even dream of.
using modern technology to reduce unnecessary risk isnt somehow betraying your biology.

and yes im aware of the irony​

again, i smoke cigarettes.
i take weed brownies/edibles.
my diet isnt some perfect health-maxxing protocol.
so im obviously not trying to stand here and tell everyone im the pinnacle of human optimisation.
if anything, thats why im making the argument.
im not saying “look at me, my lifestyle is perfect”.
im saying that even with my objectively questionable habits, i can still recognise when a dietary argument doesnt make sense.
you dont need to be a health saint to understand basic risk/reward.

the actual conclusion​

eat meat if you like meat.
eat steak.
eat chicken.
eat fish.
eat eggs.
just cook the fucking thing.
then eat fruit.
eat berries.
eat greek yogurt.
eat vegetables.
eat whatever carbs fit your diet.
get enough protein and calories.
have some variety.
you dont need to choose between “raw primal carnivore” and “vegan”.
the sensible position is incredibly boring: eat a varied diet containing nutritious foods and dont deliberately introduce unnecessary food-safety risks for a benefit you cant demonstrate.
the raw meat diet isnt stupid because meat is bad.
its stupid because people have taken a perfectly good food, removed one of the easiest ways to make it safer, and then convinced themselves the inconvenience is actually a health advantage.

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