i just pin 10 iu (1 Viewer)

[Bevan]

i think i will die

 

[birthdefect]

i think i will die

nigga you're meant to titrate up to that dose

 

[Johan Liebert]

nigga you're meant to titrate up to that dose

What does titrate mean?

 

[birthdefect]

What does titrate mean?

as in build up to
in actual clinical settings for idiopathic short stature the treatment starts at 0.24mg/kg/week and builds up to a max of 0.47mg/kg/week. for context, for a 60kg person would start at around 6iu and build up to a max of around 12iu

 

[Johan Liebert]

as in build up to
in actual clinical settings for idiopathic short stature the treatment starts at 0.24mg/kg/week and builds up to a max of 0.47mg/kg/week. for context, for a 60kg person would start at around 6iu and build up to a max of around 12iu

why not just start with 0.47mg/kg/week?

 

[birthdefect]

why not just start with 0.47mg/kg/week?

horrible for you, building up is always better
this is done until igf1 levels reach a z score of 2.0

 

[Johan Liebert]

horrible for you, building up is always better
this is done until igf1 levels reach a z score of 2.0

z score? what's that?

 

[Johan Liebert]

and why is it horrible?

 

[birthdefect]

and why is it horrible?

big systemic shock to the body
you build up so it gets used to it

z score? what's that?

your igf1 levels for your age and sex compared to others
0 is dead average, a range betwee -2.0 to +2.0 is safe. above this range could mean gh excess (acromegaly, gigantism) and below could mean gh deficiency. with exogenous igf1 you wanna aim for +2.0, above this will lead to acromegalic facial changes, although you will grow more

 

[Johan Liebert]

big systemic shock to the body
you build up so it gets used to it

I mean what'll actually happen if I were to just jump straight to max dose?

your igf1 levels for your age and sex compared to others
0 is dead average, a range betwee -2.0 to +2.0 is safe. above this range could mean gh excess (acromegaly, gigantism) and below could mean gh deficiency. with exogenous igf1 you wanna aim for +2.0, above this will lead to acromegalic facial changes, although you will grow more

what's the unit of -2.0 to +2.0?

 

[birthdefect]

I mean what'll actually happen if I were to just jump straight to max dose?


what's the unit of -2.0 to +2.0?

insulin resistance crazy bloating carpal tunnel and some more probably

0 represents the average igf1 level of your demographic, numbers away from 0 in any direction represent how far your igf1 production from the mean is

 

[Bevan]

insulin resistance crazy bloating carpal tunnel and some more probably

0 represents the average igf1 level of your demographic, numbers away from 0 in any direction represent how far your igf1 production from the mean is

like explain by levels what level cause acromegaly

 

[Michael b]

i think i will die

There's a bodybuilder doing 100 IUs a day your good

 

[connorkent]

why not just use test to upregulate GH? I'm not that educated on this

 

[birthdefect]

like explain by levels what level cause acromegaly

nigga cant read
+2.0 igf1 z score is the max, after that its acromegalic. the amount if gh that gets you to this level varies widely, with some being able to blast 30iu and get nothing and someone developong acromegaly from 2iu daily. pin the gh, do a blood test, and get your z score checked