Discussion How do you value yourself and others? (1 Viewer)

[Chuck Yeager]

Is it immoral to place love for others over yourself?

If you want to be loved, do you think you should correct your flaws (not physical) to deserve it, or do you think you inherently deserve love?

Do you help others out of virtue? Or to gain moral credit over yourself, where doing good deeds is a token, if you will, to later on use as a justification or excuse to do bad? (i.e., helping an old lady cross the street and later on insulting someone, using the good deeds as a merit, to condone what you've done)

How can someone be deserving of love if their behavior is viewed as immoral, even if their environment made them believe in the justification of their immoral behavior?

 

[nineteen]

Is it immoral to place love for others over yourself?

If you want to be loved, do you think you should correct your flaws (not physical) to deserve it, or do you think you inherently deserve love?

Do you help others out of virtue? Or to gain moral credit over yourself, where doing good deeds is a token, if you will, to later on use as a justification or excuse to do bad? (i.e., helping an old lady cross the street and later on insulting someone, using the good deeds as a merit, to condone what you've done)

How can someone be deserving of love if their behavior is viewed as immoral, even if their environment made them believe in the justification of their immoral behavior?

good question

 

[FoidSlayer]

I wouldn't say it immoral to place love for others over yourself, just unhealthy.

I feel like everyone is born pure, because obviously you haven't done anything wrong. But as life goes on their environment can change them and make them immoral. You were born pure so you must get on the path to become pure again. But obviously no one is pure so some immoral actions shouldn't rule out receiving love.

I help others because I like helping others, but both tbh. Like I'll help someone out sometimes just purely out of the fact that they'll owe me one later down the line.

I think someone who is generally immoral can receive love if they recognize the fact they are immoral and take action to fix their behavior

 

[slogxER]

Is it immoral to place love for others over yourself?

If you want to be loved, do you think you should correct your flaws (not physical) to deserve it, or do you think you inherently deserve love?

Do you help others out of virtue? Or to gain moral credit over yourself, where doing good deeds is a token, if you will, to later on use as a justification or excuse to do bad? (i.e., helping an old lady cross the street and later on insulting someone, using the good deeds as a merit, to condone what you've done)

How can someone be deserving of love if their behavior is viewed as immoral, even if their environment made them believe in the justification of their immoral behavior?

the thing is, most of the cases people are kind cus they have been treated bad at some point in life making them realize how wrong it is, or they have saw it and made them realize. Then if youve been a king for your life, aka a chad, i wont say everyone will be bad, but there is a higher chance as you might enjoy it.

 

[Dexter]

Do you help others out of virtue? Or to gain moral credit over yourself, where doing good deeds is a token, if you will, to later on use as a justification or excuse to do bad?

i cant imagine people doing good out of virtue
i would see it as a way to gain moral credit but not an excuse to do bad but to simply be in everyone's good books until SOMETHING bad happens, so I'll be treated leniently

 

[Razi]

I hate ethics so much bro

 

[Skulloute]

To be honest, I cannot be quite stern on this, but to keep a good reputation, I don't do it out of virtue. I don't have a good elaboration, but I just feel I do it just because I am taught to be like that, if that makes sense. So I agree with Dexter's statement.

 

[Chuck Yeager]

I wouldn't say it immoral to place love for others over yourself, just unhealthy.

would it not be safe to assume that it's both? if its unhealthy it's bad for you, and if its immoral it goes against the requirements of your life since your own isn't your highest value?

 

[FoidSlayer]

would it not be safe to assume that it's both? if its unhealthy it's bad for you, and if its immoral it goes against the requirements of your life since your own isn't your highest value?

You're right

 

[Razi]

You're right

Layman outphilosophized by Nietzschean chad

 

[Godveil Heir]

I do what I want because I'm superior to you monkeys
I don't care about m-muh MORALS!

 

[Razi]

I do what I want because I'm superior to you monkeys
I don't care about m-muh MORALS!

fag alert!!!

 

[Godveil Heir]

fag alert!!!

Your word genuinely has no value because you jester around 24/7

 

[Razi]

Your word genuinely has no value because you jester around 24/7

Ion jester anymore gng I just talk and trust I’ll start ooting some high effort shit soon enough

 

[Godveil Heir]

Ion jester anymore gng I just talk and trust I’ll start ooting some high effort shit soon enough

Jester

 

[Razi]

Jester

Your ragebait will not work on peacemaxxing razi

 

[paracelsus]

just do what you have to do to succeed, constantly weighing up morals during fast decisions will only make it worse and people will take advantage of yoy

 

[Chuck Yeager]

I do what I want because I'm superior to you monkeys
I don't care about m-muh MORALS!

Wouldn't your lack of restraint make you inferior, as you have no impulse control and no self-mastery?

Is your claim of being superior not undermined by your next statement of dismissing morals?

also yea fag alert

 

[Razi]

fag alert

The Nietzschean is quite based

 

[Godveil Heir]

Wouldn't your lack of restraint make you inferior, as you have no impulse control and no self-mastery?

Never said that
I can commit strategic, pre-planned immoral acts
I just reject the cattle's definition of righteousness

Is your claim of being superior not undermined by your next statement of dismissing morals?
also yea fag alert

You're a retard with a primitive brain

 

[Razi]

You're a retard with a primitive brain

Why the disrespect when he gave a very respectful response hmmm this saddens me

 

[Perfectionist]

Is it immoral to place love for others over yourself?

If you want to be loved, do you think you should correct your flaws (not physical) to deserve it, or do you think you inherently deserve love?

Do you help others out of virtue? Or to gain moral credit over yourself, where doing good deeds is a token, if you will, to later on use as a justification or excuse to do bad? (i.e., helping an old lady cross the street and later on insulting someone, using the good deeds as a merit, to condone what you've done)

How can someone be deserving of love if their behavior is viewed as immoral, even if their environment made them believe in the justification of their immoral behavior?

Humans were born with empathy, we show empathy to everyone. Kindness is natural. Hate is taught from parents to offspring. Doing good things like you mentioned, we do them ever since the beginning of time. Moral actions are what we are supposed to do.

 

[Razi]

Humans were born with empathy, we show empathy to everyone. Kindness is natural. Hate is taught from parents to offspring. Doing good things like you mentioned, we do them ever since the beginning of time. Moral actions are what we are supposed to do.

You Sufi by any chance?

 

[Godveil Heir]

Humans were born with empathy, we show empathy to everyone. Kindness is natural

Not for the dark triad ones

Hate is taught from parents to offspring.

No

 

[Razi]

Not for the dark triad ones

This nigga is just saying stuff