INTRODUCTION:
Hello I am researching dimorphism and here is what I've found.
Dimorphism is the occurrence of two distinct forms, types, or structures/features within the same species or organism. This is most commonly seen as Sexual dimorphism.
This is where males and females have different physical traits such as color,size or features or behaviors.
•Sexual dimorphism:
This refers to the difference between the sexes, not just reproductive organs
°Morphological (size,color,facial features)
As you can see the male peacock has colorful feathers due to sexual dimorphism, driven by sexual selection.
Another example of this being apparent is in deers as we see that the male evolved to have antlers primarily through sexual selection and to compete to establish dominance and show good health and genetic quality to attract mates, enhancing reproductive success.
This is also apparent in animals' behaviors for example a male songbird may sing complex songs or perform different mating rituals and even pursue parental care roles
HOW THIS AFFECTS HUMANS
From what we observed it is evident that dimorphism is all around us, the animals we see in nature, the plants that grow around us and even minerals all follow the laws of dimorphism. This means that humans aren't any different.
Human sexual dimorphism originated primarily from sexual selection, where males competed for mates, favoring traits like larger size, strength, and more masculine features, while females often faced natural selection for traits improving offspring survival, like body size for reproduction.
These changes were brought upon them by differing mating strategies and resource competition and they shaped distinct male and female characteristics in body size, shape and voice and of course the intensity in the differences varies across human populations
This is a chart depicting computer voice preferences and as you can see a vast majority of men favored the female voice to the male voice and women were closely split between the two. This is evolutionary predispositions at work consisting of:
•Mate selection cues
Research indicates that men tend to find feminine voices (higher pitch) to be more favorable because its associated with biological markers of youth, higher estrogen levels, reproductive health and fertility.
•Perception of body size
A higher pitch in women's voice is often unconsciously associated with a smaller body size and height which men generally find more attractive in women.
•Calming effect
A few studies suggest that the softer, more melodic tone of a female voice can have a calming effect on men, possibly involving psychological and hormonal responses.
DIMORPHISM IN MODERN DAY HUMANS
Now human dimorphism can be dated back for tens of thousands of years with high levels seen in early hominins like Australopithecus where the males were significantly larger than females.
Now where does this all stand in the modern world?
In the modern world dimorphism is all around us and separates us physically from our female counter parts things like body composition (more muscle/less fat in males), strength, stature (males being taller generally), body fat distribution, craniofacial structure, and voice pitch, driven by hormones like testosterone.
HOW DOES DIMORPHISM EFFECT MODERN DAY SOCIETY?
Sexual dimorphism influences modern dating society by shaping attraction, reinforcing traditional gender roles, and affecting social perceptions. While evolutionary preferences still play a role in attraction, cultural and environmental factors heavily influence modern dating.
•Attraction to dimorphic traits
Studies have shown a general preference for certain sex-typical traits. Men tend to prefer feminine features in women (often associated with youth and fertility), and these preferences are consistent across many cultures and countries. Women's preferences for masculine traits in men (such as height, a lower pitch voice, and muscularity, which are associated with health and social dominance).
•Trade-offs in partner preference
Womens' preference for masculinity can involve a perceived trade-off: masculine-faced men are seen as dominant and healthy (potential good genetics) but at the same time potentially aggressive or less likely to invest parentally in a committed relationship this changes the preference if they're seeking a long term or short term partner.
•Variations among environments
Preferences for exaggerated sexually dimorphic traits are more pronounced in highly developed, urban societies than in small scale villages, its possible this is caused by the fact that there are more opportunities to observe these traits in larger societies.
In essence, sexual dimorphism provides a biological foundation, that is interpreted and amplified by modern societal norms and dating contexts, leading to a complex interplay of evolved preferences and cultural influences
DIMORPHISM AND LONG TERM INVESTMENT:
Dimorphism in dating involves preferences for traits signalling genetic quality (health, good genes) vs parental investment (good dad/mom traits).
Key factors:
•"Good genes" (masculine cues): stronger jawlines, brow ridges, broad shoulders signal high testosterone, good immune function, dominance, and potentially higher genetic quality.
•"Good mom/dad" (feminine/softer cues): softer, more feminine faces (smaller noses,full lips, bigger eyes in women; less masculine features in men) can signal warmth, cooperation, empathy, and willingness to invest in parenting.
•People often prefer "good genes" for short term mating but "good dad/mom" traits for long term commitment creating a complex balance which may be an answer to hypergamy and why it happens
DIMORPHISM AND HYPERGAMY:
I'm going to assume that you all are familiar with hypergamy but in case you aren't hypergamy is the practice or tendency of marrying or forming a relationship with someone of higher looks, social status wealth or educational level.
Now knowing that, does dimorphism play a role in hypergamy. FUCK YES!
•Male competition and resources:
In species with greater polygamy and sexual dimorphism, males often have to compete for access to females. In humans, this competition is theorized to have evolved beyond physical prowess to include the ability to acquire and provide resources and status
Female preference for resources:
Evolutionary phycologists posit that women, historically and across many cultures tend to give more weight to a potential partners income potential, social status and ability to provide security when choosing a mate. This preference is seen as an adaptive strategy to ensure the survival and well being of themselves and their offspring.
Little theory of my own:
There is little research back this up so take my words with a grain of salt but I believe that women and men arnt dating a lot in modern day and women have this whole "me want Chad" mentality but only end up using him for hook ups and one night stand and this correlates with the "good genes" statement I made earlier. In modern day I've seen less women wanting to date men it seems like every girl hates all men or some junk like that but they still thirst for someone better than them due to their hypergamous nature. I believe that women aren't dating men because they're unattractive and they don't see the "good dad" genes attractive until later in their life when they've been ran through by more masculine dimorphic men. It's a sad reality that we live in but we must endure it unfortunately so yeah that's my take on it.
That's enough of my theory though is there a way to use this to your advantage?
CAN YOU IMPROVE YOUR DIMORPHISM?
KEY FEATURES THAT MAKE UP MASCULINE DIMORPHISM:
•Brow ridge: more prominent and projects further making eyes appear deep set. You could get a supra orbital implant.
•Jawline and chin: Wider, Squarer, and more angular with a longer broader chin. To achieve this you could get chin/jaw implants, genioplasty, or orthodontic surgery (realign the jaw) also orthodontics may help such as MARPE if you have a narrow pallet.
•Cheek bones: wider and more prominent. Can be achieved with the use of a MARPE if your pallet is narrow and it works by splitting the mid palatal suture and your zygos becoming more prominent is a side effect of that. You could also do buccal fat removal to stimulate a chiseled look but I wouldn't go overboard with this or you could look uncanny. Also cheek augmentation (implants or fat grafts for more volume)
I'm going to wrap up the thread here, thank you for reading and viewing my thread.
Final note: A blend of masculine and feminine features on a face looks the best (Good jaw structure that is masculine but feminine full lips).
This took awhile so I would love some rep if you enjoyed this thread
Hello I am researching dimorphism and here is what I've found.
Dimorphism is the occurrence of two distinct forms, types, or structures/features within the same species or organism. This is most commonly seen as Sexual dimorphism.
This is where males and females have different physical traits such as color,size or features or behaviors.
•Sexual dimorphism:
This refers to the difference between the sexes, not just reproductive organs
°Morphological (size,color,facial features)
As you can see the male peacock has colorful feathers due to sexual dimorphism, driven by sexual selection.
Another example of this being apparent is in deers as we see that the male evolved to have antlers primarily through sexual selection and to compete to establish dominance and show good health and genetic quality to attract mates, enhancing reproductive success.
This is also apparent in animals' behaviors for example a male songbird may sing complex songs or perform different mating rituals and even pursue parental care roles
HOW THIS AFFECTS HUMANS
From what we observed it is evident that dimorphism is all around us, the animals we see in nature, the plants that grow around us and even minerals all follow the laws of dimorphism. This means that humans aren't any different.
Human sexual dimorphism originated primarily from sexual selection, where males competed for mates, favoring traits like larger size, strength, and more masculine features, while females often faced natural selection for traits improving offspring survival, like body size for reproduction.
These changes were brought upon them by differing mating strategies and resource competition and they shaped distinct male and female characteristics in body size, shape and voice and of course the intensity in the differences varies across human populations
This is a chart depicting computer voice preferences and as you can see a vast majority of men favored the female voice to the male voice and women were closely split between the two. This is evolutionary predispositions at work consisting of:
•Mate selection cues
Research indicates that men tend to find feminine voices (higher pitch) to be more favorable because its associated with biological markers of youth, higher estrogen levels, reproductive health and fertility.
•Perception of body size
A higher pitch in women's voice is often unconsciously associated with a smaller body size and height which men generally find more attractive in women.
•Calming effect
A few studies suggest that the softer, more melodic tone of a female voice can have a calming effect on men, possibly involving psychological and hormonal responses.
DIMORPHISM IN MODERN DAY HUMANS
Now human dimorphism can be dated back for tens of thousands of years with high levels seen in early hominins like Australopithecus where the males were significantly larger than females.
Now where does this all stand in the modern world?
In the modern world dimorphism is all around us and separates us physically from our female counter parts things like body composition (more muscle/less fat in males), strength, stature (males being taller generally), body fat distribution, craniofacial structure, and voice pitch, driven by hormones like testosterone.
HOW DOES DIMORPHISM EFFECT MODERN DAY SOCIETY?
Sexual dimorphism influences modern dating society by shaping attraction, reinforcing traditional gender roles, and affecting social perceptions. While evolutionary preferences still play a role in attraction, cultural and environmental factors heavily influence modern dating.
•Attraction to dimorphic traits
Studies have shown a general preference for certain sex-typical traits. Men tend to prefer feminine features in women (often associated with youth and fertility), and these preferences are consistent across many cultures and countries. Women's preferences for masculine traits in men (such as height, a lower pitch voice, and muscularity, which are associated with health and social dominance).
•Trade-offs in partner preference
Womens' preference for masculinity can involve a perceived trade-off: masculine-faced men are seen as dominant and healthy (potential good genetics) but at the same time potentially aggressive or less likely to invest parentally in a committed relationship this changes the preference if they're seeking a long term or short term partner.
•Variations among environments
Preferences for exaggerated sexually dimorphic traits are more pronounced in highly developed, urban societies than in small scale villages, its possible this is caused by the fact that there are more opportunities to observe these traits in larger societies.
In essence, sexual dimorphism provides a biological foundation, that is interpreted and amplified by modern societal norms and dating contexts, leading to a complex interplay of evolved preferences and cultural influences
DIMORPHISM AND LONG TERM INVESTMENT:
Dimorphism in dating involves preferences for traits signalling genetic quality (health, good genes) vs parental investment (good dad/mom traits).
Key factors:
•"Good genes" (masculine cues): stronger jawlines, brow ridges, broad shoulders signal high testosterone, good immune function, dominance, and potentially higher genetic quality.
•"Good mom/dad" (feminine/softer cues): softer, more feminine faces (smaller noses,full lips, bigger eyes in women; less masculine features in men) can signal warmth, cooperation, empathy, and willingness to invest in parenting.
•People often prefer "good genes" for short term mating but "good dad/mom" traits for long term commitment creating a complex balance which may be an answer to hypergamy and why it happens
DIMORPHISM AND HYPERGAMY:
I'm going to assume that you all are familiar with hypergamy but in case you aren't hypergamy is the practice or tendency of marrying or forming a relationship with someone of higher looks, social status wealth or educational level.
Now knowing that, does dimorphism play a role in hypergamy. FUCK YES!
•Male competition and resources:
In species with greater polygamy and sexual dimorphism, males often have to compete for access to females. In humans, this competition is theorized to have evolved beyond physical prowess to include the ability to acquire and provide resources and status
Female preference for resources:
Evolutionary phycologists posit that women, historically and across many cultures tend to give more weight to a potential partners income potential, social status and ability to provide security when choosing a mate. This preference is seen as an adaptive strategy to ensure the survival and well being of themselves and their offspring.
Little theory of my own:
There is little research back this up so take my words with a grain of salt but I believe that women and men arnt dating a lot in modern day and women have this whole "me want Chad" mentality but only end up using him for hook ups and one night stand and this correlates with the "good genes" statement I made earlier. In modern day I've seen less women wanting to date men it seems like every girl hates all men or some junk like that but they still thirst for someone better than them due to their hypergamous nature. I believe that women aren't dating men because they're unattractive and they don't see the "good dad" genes attractive until later in their life when they've been ran through by more masculine dimorphic men. It's a sad reality that we live in but we must endure it unfortunately so yeah that's my take on it.
That's enough of my theory though is there a way to use this to your advantage?
CAN YOU IMPROVE YOUR DIMORPHISM?
KEY FEATURES THAT MAKE UP MASCULINE DIMORPHISM:
•Brow ridge: more prominent and projects further making eyes appear deep set. You could get a supra orbital implant.
•Jawline and chin: Wider, Squarer, and more angular with a longer broader chin. To achieve this you could get chin/jaw implants, genioplasty, or orthodontic surgery (realign the jaw) also orthodontics may help such as MARPE if you have a narrow pallet.
•Cheek bones: wider and more prominent. Can be achieved with the use of a MARPE if your pallet is narrow and it works by splitting the mid palatal suture and your zygos becoming more prominent is a side effect of that. You could also do buccal fat removal to stimulate a chiseled look but I wouldn't go overboard with this or you could look uncanny. Also cheek augmentation (implants or fat grafts for more volume)
I'm going to wrap up the thread here, thank you for reading and viewing my thread.
Final note: A blend of masculine and feminine features on a face looks the best (Good jaw structure that is masculine but feminine full lips).
This took awhile so I would love some rep if you enjoyed this thread
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