Clav has fell off a lot imo since he went mainstream. He has done live streams where he just mocks people and in specific manlets. Very hypocritical considering he lives by blackpill principles where he believes life is predetermined by genetics and height is 90% genetic. He also has stopped using real logic to defend himself and now just ad hominem attacks people who disagree with him. His fanbase is also so fucking annoying, a bunch of low iq retards who found out about looksmaxxing 2 weeks ago and worship him like a cult. He doesn't take any accountability for his actions like the car incident not saying it is his fault but there was many other ways he could have handled that. He promotes ideologies like degeneracy to vulnerable kids that don't know any better. Some of the stuff he says like his protocols and guides(except the meth) are actually pretty solid and a good place to start. But the shit he promotes ideology wise is bad for the younger generation. Also cookie king has fell off a cliff too and is super corny now, tbh that entire friend group is a bunch of cornballs now. They all super performative and just dickride each other no matter what the situation is.
