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This guide will go over how to maximise your frame or something 
Ik theres no organization and its basically alot of continuous rambling but idfc
Yes little parts of this is jew gpt bc fuck you and your dog
The clavicle
The clavicle is interesting because it’s a hybrid bone. It develops partly via intramembranous ossification (like the skull) and partly via endochondral ossification (like long bones). This makes it particularly sensitivity to growth hormones (mainly androgens and hgh/igf1). The main pathway i would take to grow my clavicle (bone) would be a AAS (androgen anabolic steroids) and romosozumab
https://looksmax.gg/threads/romosozuma-advanced.10328/
What this combo would essentially do is use androgens to grow the bone and use romo for its antisost qualities to have continuous growth. I also stress romosozumab for its intramembranous ossifcation effects aswell as its use for bone . Teriparatide would also help with this along with acceleration osteoblast via nutrient optimization.
https://looksmax.gg/threads/pth-ana...d-my-thread-to-prove-im-not-a-dumb-fuck.9202/
this kinda covers teriparatides process
another option would be hgh as its directly anabolic to bone
https://looksmax.gg/threads/never-acc-done-a-thread-on-hgh-so-here.12997/
The main thing i emphasis is still androgenics. They are so essentail becuase if they're effect on both bone growth and strengthening (allowing more mechanical load) along with insane deltoid gain. Youll see all these enhanced bodybuilder and noticed thier enormous shoulders, androgens are why.
boi this ghkcu i js pinned is messing with me ffs im switching supplier ong
Anyways
The best lateral delt (main frame muscle) exercise imo-
This is a exercise i do as an adaptation of supported lateral raise
(this but sat)
Bench seat at 30, back at 45
Sit in edge of seat and lean on shoulder wrapping arm round back of bench
Dumbell in opposite hand and lat raise
Legs dropped round seat bottom to limit momentum (if ur reading this reply with
)
this next thing will be on other bodily proportion
if u have a bad waist to bidelt ratio you'll be cooked (shirtless) it is important that you lose fat and develop a good overall physique for a notcable frame. Ofcourse if you have a good frame and are struggling to not be a massive fatty then wear a baggy shirt
.
The growth plates in this area close later then any others as they usually close into the early 20s (depending on timing of development and habits). This longer lifespan is simply because of the intramembranous course of growth and as they're not as essential as other long bones (for load bearing and movement).
related to this (wrote at different time and put together now so ignore if I repeat myself)
The difference in growth associated with the medial or lateral aspects of the clavicle
The medial aspect of the clavicular epiphysis, or the sternal part, is the last large growth plate which closes in the human body, often remaining open well into the early mid-20s in most males, while the lateral or acromial part grows relatively little towards the eventual width of the entire shoulder. This means that almost the entire increase in the true bidelt width during the late teens comes from the medial side growing out, which pulls the entire clavicle sideways. This is why the width of the shoulder can still increase even after the height stops growing.
Ages 14–16
≈ 38–41 cm (15.0–16.1 in)
This range is chaotic because puberty timing dominates. Early maturers may already be pushing the upper end, late maturers can still look very narrow. Clavicular plates are open, shoulder girdle is still repositioning, and androgen exposure varies wildly.
Avg bidelt length (limited gym training) (gpt)
Ages 16–18
≈ 41–44 cm (16.1–17.3 in)
This is where male shoulder width accelerates. Androgens rise, GH/IGF signaling peaks, scapulae rotate outward, and clavicles lengthen and thicken. Late bloomers often gain more width here than height. This window does a lot of the permanent frame work.
Ages 18–22
≈ 43–46 cm (16.9–18.1 in)
Growth slows but does not stop. Medial clavicular epiphyses are often still open, especially in males. Width gains here are smaller but meaningful, particularly in those with delayed puberty or high androgen exposure. Structural consolidation and thickening dominate over length.
Ages 22+
≈ 44–47 cm (17.3–18.5 in)
At this point, skeletal width is essentially set. Any increases beyond this are usually posture correction, scapular positioning, or muscular hypertrophy rather than true bone change. Androgens can still increase apparent bidelt via delt mass and clavicular thickening, but not by altering bone length.
estimating ur natty growth potential
One essential trait is wrist size proportional to overall height, bigger wrists mean bigger overall periosteal development, including clavicles.
Another thing is shoulder angle and overall shoulder slope. guys with straighter shoulders and an extended neck to acromion length tend to have longer clavicles while those with steep-angled shoulders tend to have narrower clavicles.
ribcage width- guys with bigger chests provide overall clavicle bodies with more room in terms of horizontal development.
Pelvic width compared to shoulder width may even be indicative of horizontal versus vertical development. (Dyor)
hardmaxxes
clavicle lengthening via distraction osteogenesis
This is essentially that same as LL the bone is cut and insertions are put in the gaps and altered as new bone grows.
this has an incredibly long recovery time (close to a year in most cases)
This surgery is considered high risk due to nerve and vascular complications.
This is a medical surgery and is very rarely able to be operated legally without certified medical reason
shoulder widening via acromial or scapular repositioning
This won't do much and is a desperate measure, it moves around tissue that surround the clavicle to position it better. If u dont have a narrow frame due to bad positioning this won't do near anything for you. Results of this surgery are also often assymetrical and I wouldn't recommend it.
Oils/fillers- not so much a hardmaxx but fits more in this category
Im sure you've seen all these guys on social media with disproportionate muscles due to synthol injections and fillers
although when I mention this its more subtle and should be paired with an existing good physique. This wouldn't add alot by itself but paired with overall growth it would be great
exclusive notice
having tall stature does not correlate to a wide clavicle (vertical and horizontal growth differ) if your are late bloomer you are also more likely to develop a wider frame due to androgen exposure timing.
Another
Don't overtrain traps as it will make frame appear smaller and underdeveloped on comparison
Well uhh ive got nothing else and im pretty sure this is water but whtv I had fun writing this
Love yall bhais
Ik theres no organization and its basically alot of continuous rambling but idfc
Yes little parts of this is jew gpt bc fuck you and your dog
The clavicle
The clavicle is interesting because it’s a hybrid bone. It develops partly via intramembranous ossification (like the skull) and partly via endochondral ossification (like long bones). This makes it particularly sensitivity to growth hormones (mainly androgens and hgh/igf1). The main pathway i would take to grow my clavicle (bone) would be a AAS (androgen anabolic steroids) and romosozumab
https://looksmax.gg/threads/romosozuma-advanced.10328/
What this combo would essentially do is use androgens to grow the bone and use romo for its antisost qualities to have continuous growth. I also stress romosozumab for its intramembranous ossifcation effects aswell as its use for bone . Teriparatide would also help with this along with acceleration osteoblast via nutrient optimization.
https://looksmax.gg/threads/pth-ana...d-my-thread-to-prove-im-not-a-dumb-fuck.9202/
this kinda covers teriparatides process
another option would be hgh as its directly anabolic to bone
https://looksmax.gg/threads/never-acc-done-a-thread-on-hgh-so-here.12997/
The main thing i emphasis is still androgenics. They are so essentail becuase if they're effect on both bone growth and strengthening (allowing more mechanical load) along with insane deltoid gain. Youll see all these enhanced bodybuilder and noticed thier enormous shoulders, androgens are why.
boi this ghkcu i js pinned is messing with me ffs im switching supplier ong
Anyways
The best lateral delt (main frame muscle) exercise imo-
This is a exercise i do as an adaptation of supported lateral raise
Bench seat at 30, back at 45
Sit in edge of seat and lean on shoulder wrapping arm round back of bench
Dumbell in opposite hand and lat raise
Legs dropped round seat bottom to limit momentum (if ur reading this reply with
)this next thing will be on other bodily proportion
if u have a bad waist to bidelt ratio you'll be cooked (shirtless) it is important that you lose fat and develop a good overall physique for a notcable frame. Ofcourse if you have a good frame and are struggling to not be a massive fatty then wear a baggy shirt
.The growth plates in this area close later then any others as they usually close into the early 20s (depending on timing of development and habits). This longer lifespan is simply because of the intramembranous course of growth and as they're not as essential as other long bones (for load bearing and movement).
related to this (wrote at different time and put together now so ignore if I repeat myself)
The difference in growth associated with the medial or lateral aspects of the clavicle
The medial aspect of the clavicular epiphysis, or the sternal part, is the last large growth plate which closes in the human body, often remaining open well into the early mid-20s in most males, while the lateral or acromial part grows relatively little towards the eventual width of the entire shoulder. This means that almost the entire increase in the true bidelt width during the late teens comes from the medial side growing out, which pulls the entire clavicle sideways. This is why the width of the shoulder can still increase even after the height stops growing.
Ages 14–16
≈ 38–41 cm (15.0–16.1 in)
This range is chaotic because puberty timing dominates. Early maturers may already be pushing the upper end, late maturers can still look very narrow. Clavicular plates are open, shoulder girdle is still repositioning, and androgen exposure varies wildly.
Avg bidelt length (limited gym training) (gpt)
Ages 16–18
≈ 41–44 cm (16.1–17.3 in)
This is where male shoulder width accelerates. Androgens rise, GH/IGF signaling peaks, scapulae rotate outward, and clavicles lengthen and thicken. Late bloomers often gain more width here than height. This window does a lot of the permanent frame work.
Ages 18–22
≈ 43–46 cm (16.9–18.1 in)
Growth slows but does not stop. Medial clavicular epiphyses are often still open, especially in males. Width gains here are smaller but meaningful, particularly in those with delayed puberty or high androgen exposure. Structural consolidation and thickening dominate over length.
Ages 22+
≈ 44–47 cm (17.3–18.5 in)
At this point, skeletal width is essentially set. Any increases beyond this are usually posture correction, scapular positioning, or muscular hypertrophy rather than true bone change. Androgens can still increase apparent bidelt via delt mass and clavicular thickening, but not by altering bone length.
estimating ur natty growth potential
One essential trait is wrist size proportional to overall height, bigger wrists mean bigger overall periosteal development, including clavicles.
Another thing is shoulder angle and overall shoulder slope. guys with straighter shoulders and an extended neck to acromion length tend to have longer clavicles while those with steep-angled shoulders tend to have narrower clavicles.
ribcage width- guys with bigger chests provide overall clavicle bodies with more room in terms of horizontal development.
Pelvic width compared to shoulder width may even be indicative of horizontal versus vertical development. (Dyor)
hardmaxxes
clavicle lengthening via distraction osteogenesis
This is essentially that same as LL the bone is cut and insertions are put in the gaps and altered as new bone grows.
this has an incredibly long recovery time (close to a year in most cases)
This surgery is considered high risk due to nerve and vascular complications.
This is a medical surgery and is very rarely able to be operated legally without certified medical reason
shoulder widening via acromial or scapular repositioning
This won't do much and is a desperate measure, it moves around tissue that surround the clavicle to position it better. If u dont have a narrow frame due to bad positioning this won't do near anything for you. Results of this surgery are also often assymetrical and I wouldn't recommend it.
Oils/fillers- not so much a hardmaxx but fits more in this category
Im sure you've seen all these guys on social media with disproportionate muscles due to synthol injections and fillers
although when I mention this its more subtle and should be paired with an existing good physique. This wouldn't add alot by itself but paired with overall growth it would be great
exclusive notice
having tall stature does not correlate to a wide clavicle (vertical and horizontal growth differ) if your are late bloomer you are also more likely to develop a wider frame due to androgen exposure timing.
Another
Don't overtrain traps as it will make frame appear smaller and underdeveloped on comparison
Well uhh ive got nothing else and im pretty sure this is water but whtv I had fun writing this
Love yall bhais
